Iran sends warships to Gulf of Aden - navy

Iran sends warships to Gulf of Aden - navy

in.reuters.com

Iran has sent six warships to international waters, including the Gulf of Aden, to show its ability to confront any foreign threats, its naval commander said on Monday.

Admiral Habibollah Sayyari, quoted by the ISNA news agency, made the announcement five days after Iran said it test-fired a surface-to-surface missile with a range of 2,000 km (1,200 miles), putting Israel and U.S. bases in the area within reach.

"Iran has dispatched six ... warships to international waters and the Gulf of Aden region in an historically unprecedented move by the Iranian Navy," Sayyari told a gathering o

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Is this a build up of defense?

Are they aware of something that the rest of us (public) have no idea about?
Has this anything to do with North Korea's recent nuke test?

Or is six warships to help prevent piracy a tad bit too much?

These ships are in a prime position to blockade that region.

What's going on? Almost every day now we seem to be getting reports of more military training and preperation from every country.

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reply to post by Extralien


This isn't the first time Iran has sent it's warship's out into the Gulf of Aden. It has actually happened many times in the past. Once they even blocked it off for a while. They are more than likely worried about someone reacting to the NK testing another nuke and some more short range missile's.
The UN security council has called an emergency meeting for later today in New York. They are going to be going over exactly what steps to take now that Lil Kim has not followed the rules yet again. Iran is most likely worried that the UN is going to have to pull a save some face gesture and actually do something about it this time. That could mean they get drug into it being they are an ally of NK.

Didnt we once sink Irans entire Navy in a few days... So what does it matter where there ships are.

reply to post by justsomeboreddude


I think it matters because, as it stands, the world is headed full steam into the SHTF stuff . . . and Iran is a big player in the game right now.

reply to post by xxpigxx


Iran is a little fish in a big pond. Other than the war could escalate to include other countries, I dont think Iran would be much of a problem.

Originally posted by justsomeboreddude
Didnt we once sink Irans entire Navy in a few days... So what does it matter where there ships are.

Really? When was that? Iran's boats are packing quite a bit of heat from what I've heard, they got some small Corvette type craft that have like 4 of those Sunburn missiles... I really would not like to be on the receiving end of those...

And if their fleet was wiped out then that just means they have a brand new one along with some lessons under their belt.

Iran may not have the biggest and shiniest expensive hardware, but with things like ex russian diesel electric subs (about as quiet as you can get once they a running on battery's) and a wide range of Chinese and russian missiles and stuff they are not a flimsy force by any means.

Originally posted by justsomeboreddude
reply to post by xxpigxx

 

Iran is a little fish in a big pond. Other than the war could escalate to include other countries, I dont think Iran would be much of a problem.

Yes because as we sit here celebrating Memorial Day in the United States and our swift, economic, and deciding victories in our easy last wars in Afghanistan and Iraq we know that these little nations are easy to beat militarily, thank us for it, pay us back the cost, and then quickly become stable Christian Democracies with 7-Elevens, McDonalds and Wal-Marts?

Oh wait we are still occupying those countries and having troops sent back in Body Bags almost everyday and bankrupting the nation financially in those two little insignificant countries?

My bad.

Well hey we can still celebrate that victory in Vietnam?....

Korea?....

World War II?...

World War I?...

The war in Cuba?....

The war in Mexico?....

The Civil War?...

The War of 1812?....

The Revolutionary War?...

Oh well it was nice of them all to die for something anyway.

reply to post by Now_Then

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Well I am sure they might woop butt on somebody like say Lebanon, but they are no match for any big country. Its hard to lauch you anti ship weapons when your ships are at the bootom of the sea.

reply to post by justsomeboreddude


It is not just Iran herself. It is the implications.

It could drag the whole world into a vortex . . . think about all the alliances.

Russia, China, India, the ***istans, Korea, The Central and South American Countries, Cuba, The Middle Eastern countries, Japan, UK, EU, Canada, USA.

The downfall of our military and our country will be our arrogance. Sure we are still the most formidable power in the world........but we are stretched WAY too thin and our country is bankrupt. So is the EU. If there was a war with Iran, Russia, and China the west would not win so easily. Plus any incidient in the Gulf of Aden no matter how big or small would be like an incident in the Hormuz, sending gas prices sky rocketing.

reply to post by xxpigxx


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Well what do you suggest we do? Should we just back down because we cant handle the pressure. If this stuff is going to keep boiling under the surface, we might as well just throw down and get it over with one way or the other. Our ship is sinking, we might as well go out with a bang.

I can never quite figure out if justsomeboreddude is a troll or justsomeboreddude with a skewed perception of the world As Stacey pointed out they have sent them before,i dont think this is a big deal.Just because its Iran doesn't equate this to being anything of significance imo.

[edit on 25-5-2009 by Solomons]

reply to post by justsomeboreddude


I agree, sadly.

lol

I said that last year too. Quit the smack talk and just go at it. Let the chips fall where they may. ( I was promptly attacked by crying hearts begging me to think of the children and innocent people).

Originally posted by justsomeboreddude
reply to post by xxpigxx

 

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Well what do you suggest we do? Should we just back down because we cant handle the pressure. If this stuff is going to keep boiling under the surface, we might as well just throw down and get it over with one way or the other. Our ship is sinking, we might as well go out with a bang.

Lets see we have had an entire Army stationed on the DMZ in Korea now for 50 plus years, and have been War mongering in the Middle East for almost 20 and you find it odd these people might like to have Nuclear Weapons?

Or that we are going broke with all this stuff?

I am not down for having my family and children, friends, neighbors and loved ones going out with a bang.

I think they have suicide bomber training schools somewhere in the Beka Valley in Lebanon, why don't you ask them to hook you up. I am sure they will be happy to!

reply to post by xxpigxx


Yeah I think stop the talk and get it over with. The only bad part is that we have a country full of wusses. So as soon as one kid dies or one of our soldiers gets drug down the street they will be ready to throw in the towel. We would have got our butts killed in WW2 if we had a country full of these same liberals.

Bah, this is more media BS. Iran sent the warships to protect their commercial shipping against pirates in the Gulf of Aden, which is directly off the coast of Somalia. International armadas have had little effect against the pirates.

The media is trying to spin this into something else to make it seem like Iran is challenging the US Navy or something. BS!

reply to post by Solomons


The big deal all of the war mongering people need to keep in mind is that although Iran is a "small" country as compared to most other major players.... they have some of the hardest and well trained sob' foot soldiers there are. We would be hard pressed to send our "green" men and women to go up against them! It would be special forces or NOT AT ALL.
It is very small minded to think that just because they are a small country doesn't mean they have some hard core soldiers that train everyday of the week 365 days a year. IF there was to be a war of any kind they would most definitely go in from the air first.
Considering the hail storm from hades it would cause in the entire area we should all pray that it DOESN'T actually happen EVER. If it did the whole of the M.E would be thrown into one huge war of everyone against everyone else. A lot of you may think that is a good thing; but remember that sooner or later ALL of us will be drug in to stifle it and get things back into some form of normalcy if at all possible. THAT also depends on whether or not some idiot decides to try and end it sooner and use a nuke!
It may be "over there" but we do have this thing called a jet stream that regularly carries all kinds of stuff from one end of the earth to the other. Just 2 years ago when India had a massive pollen explosion for instance. The "cloud" of pollen was picked up in Southern California just one week later at the height of the pollen count over there. How long then would it take all of that nuclear waste to get into the air stream and hit EVERYONE?
There are not just casualties on the Field of war my dears it does indeed spread all over the earth once it gets going.

reply to post by xoxo stacie


You make a lot of excellent and wise points xoxo stacie, and I think people should also not under estimate Iran's Intelligence operatives and capabilities.

Many of the difficulties Soldiers in Iran and Iraq face in the way of IED's are technology that are actually manufactured in the United States and exported through 3rd parties, then to Iran and out to the field in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Not only does Iran have a fairly sophisticated and black ops covert Intelligence capability they have Special Forces of their own and a lot of them were battle tested and seasoned in their own war with Iraq.

Iran also has a proud Warrior tradition dating back to the Persian empire which at times was the mightiest on earth.

The zurkhaneh has a little known but fascinating history. During the fall of the Persian Empire to the armies of Islam, Iranian athletes and warriors alike, lost their ability to perform their traditional sports in the open. Neither did they want to abandon their cherished traditions which were fundamental for keeping their minds and bodies sound and healthy. Consequently, Iranian athletes decided to gather in private homes and carry on their normal routine there. Later on they moved into the type of covered structure that we recognize now as the zurkhaneh.
During the early centuries of Islam in Iran, these clandestine clubs entered Iranian society as legitimate sports clubs. While the champions in both clubs used the same set of equipment and performed the same exercises, the makeup and ambiance of the newly emerging clubs were different as they were molded by the ideology of the individuals who managed them, as well as the champions who participated in their activities. Some of these champions emphasized the Shi'ite way of life, while some others emphasized Iranian nationalism. Two types of zurkhaneh emerged: those that followed the traditions and rituals of the Sufi orders and those that followed the manners of the national champions of ancient Iran.

The religiously-oriented zurkhaneh developed rituals that mimicked the rituals and traditions of Sufi orders prevalent in different localities. Sufic terms like master (murshed), leader (pish kesvat), crown (taj), and poverty (faqr) are heard more often in these zurkhanehs than in the nationally-oriented zurkhanehs.

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reply to post by Extralien


BTW, the article "NO WHERE" mentioned attacking or defending from pirates.

Just a detail we should all notice...