Adamski UFO film found

The Nazi UFOs - 'Vril' and 'Haunebu' craft are figments of the imagination. Read the text that comes along with those schematics. If Nazi Germany really had those crafts they would have gotten air superiority in no time and we would all be speaking German by now. I know it's a conspiracy theory and this forum is the right place to discuss these matters but you can ask yourself if it's really necessary to trumphet this theory because some people with far more extremist views also jump on this bandwagon. Check out the name Ernst Zundel. Who's he? A neo-nazi who basicly used the theory, fabricated information in order to spread his far right wing ideology. What I'm saying is; be careful. The Nazi UFO myth attracts certain people and I think it's fair to say that people in the past have ran with the myth for selfish reasons.

Kevin McClure, a skeptic, did some decent research on the myth;
magonia.haaan.com...
I know he's a skeptic and with a lot of other things I would probably disagree with him but he did research who came out with what information and when. Read it, because it becomes obvious that the myth was developed over decades by some shady characters who spread uncorroborated information.

I also think that at one point Adamski's material was simply hijacked by "fans" of the Nazi UFO myth. Chronologicly that checks out since 99% of the Nazi theory came out well after Adamski's material. The Aryan appearance of one of Adamski's alleged contacts also plays right into the hands of supporters of the Nazi UFO myth, for obvious reasons, and nevermind that Adamski (and others) also reported seeing people with other hair colours and even dark skinned people. The latter is probably ignored because it doesn't have the "wow" factor for the myth.

Two videos, connects to the book list i posted above. As usual though, history, witness testimony, old people and memory, facts and different conclusions but there are some evidence that germany had nuclear weapons ready in 1945.





www.ironsky.net... ;-)

[edit on 2009/5/28 by reugen]

One thing that caught my attention is, why does the ufo or toy only fly about in the open space between the trees from the filmers point of view? The object never goes behind the trees as if the filmer was displaying the object in the clear area.

I dont buy this at all. Perhaps nobody can definitively debunk this 60's footage but I can quite easily conclude to myself that this is a toy hoax.

A true alien being is not going to come to earth and dangle dance itself in the open space between the leaves of two trees for some whacko.

[edit on 28-5-2009 by Wormwood Squirm]

Originally posted by reugen
Two videos, connects to the book list i posted above. As usual though, history, witness testimony, old people and memory, facts and different conclusions but there are some evidence that germany had nuclear weapons ready in 1945.

www.ironsky.net... ;-)

[edit on 2009/5/28 by reugen]

The rumour is that the first 3 atomic bombs ignited by the US were in fact German of Origin. There were build in the "Jonastal", a valley in former East Germany. I have had the opportunity to visit the site myself with some other people that are doing research as well. Our guide was a local writer whom has written several books about the valley.

Originally posted by Wormwood Squirm
One thing that caught my attention is, why does the ufo or toy only fly about in the open space between the trees from the filmers point of view? The object never goes behind the trees as if the filmer was displaying the object in the clear area.

I dont buy this at all. Perhaps nobody can definitively debunk this 60's footage but I can quite easily conclude to myself that this is a toy hoax.

A true alien being is not going to come to earth and dangle dance itself in the open space between the leaves of two trees for some whacko.

[edit on 28-5-2009 by Wormwood Squirm]

How do you explain the "flexibility" of the craft, how its shape is being deformed, back in those days there was no CGI.

Originally posted by TerraX
The Nazi UFOs - 'Vril' and 'Haunebu' craft are figments of the imagination. Read the text that comes along with those schematics. If Nazi Germany really had those crafts they would have gotten air superiority in no time and we would all be speaking German by now. I know it's a conspiracy theory and this forum is the right place to discuss these matters but you can ask yourself if it's really necessary to trumphet this theory because some people with far more extremist views also jump on this bandwagon. Check out the name Ernst Zundel. Who's he? A neo-nazi who basicly used the theory, fabricated information in order to spread his far right wing ideology. What I'm saying is; be careful. The Nazi UFO myth attracts certain people and I think it's fair to say that people in the past have ran with the myth for selfish reasons.

Kevin McClure, a skeptic, did some decent research on the myth;
magonia.haaan.com...
I know he's a skeptic and with a lot of other things I would probably disagree with him but he did research who came out with what information and when. Read it, because it becomes obvious that the myth was developed over decades by some shady characters who spread uncorroborated information.

I also think that at one point Adamski's material was simply hijacked by "fans" of the Nazi UFO myth. Chronologicly that checks out since 99% of the Nazi theory came out well after Adamski's material. The Aryan appearance of one of Adamski's alleged contacts also plays right into the hands of supporters of the Nazi UFO myth, for obvious reasons, and nevermind that Adamski (and others) also reported seeing people with other hair colours and even dark skinned people. The latter is probably ignored because it doesn't have the "wow" factor for the myth.

Hahaha, he's a debunker and you just pick the things you like and ignore the rest because you disagree with him. Do your own research, please.
I bet the poor fellow doesn't even speak German.

Originally posted by Haunebu
Hahaha, he's a debunker and you just pick the things you like and ignore the rest because you disagree with him. Do your own research, please.

Oh, I did. I reached the conclusion that Nazi UFOs were bunk long before I came across that article by Kevin McClure. Did you do any research? Did you notice what the text says in those Vril and Haunebu "schematics"? From your shallow reply I'm guessing that you didn't. Supposedly those craft were able to reach supersonic speeds, had long endurance and even 'ray-guns' (KSK). If Germany had aircraft like that they would have decimated anything the Allies had in their arsenal. In all likelyhood those "schematics" were made by a teenager having some fun. The sad part is, is that some people actually buy it. There's much more to point out why it is so unlikely the Germans made those crafts (recorded history - logistics - aircraft technology at the time) but in case I'm talking to a brick wall it's best to save my time and energy.
Just leave Adamski out of the silly Nazi UFO propaganda.

Originally posted by TerraX

I reached the conclusion that Nazi UFOs were bunk long before I came across that article by Kevin McClure. Did you do any research? Did you notice what the text says in those Vril and Haunebu "schematics"? From your shallow reply I'm guessing that you didn't. Supposedly those craft were able to reach supersonic speeds, had long endurance and even 'ray-guns' (KSK).

If Germany had aircraft like that they would have decimated anything the Allies had in their arsenal. In all likelyhood those "schematics" were made by a teenager having some fun. The sad part is, is that some people actually buy it.

There's much more to point out why it is so unlikely the Germans made those crafts (recorded history - logistics - aircraft technology at the time)

Thanks for the insights. Your characterization of those drawings looking like teenage doodlings is appropriate. Back when they were done the level of scientific understanding in the general public was astoundingly low. Any jargoned scientific double-talk could be passed off, especially if there were neat drawings to go with it.

The fact that the better part of a century later some people can look at these things and take them seriously says much about how sophisticated we really have become.

In the end a lot of interest in UFOs is really about fantasy and wish fulfillment, not scientific inquiry. So even the most laughable footage and theories are accepted as some sort of validation.


Mike

Originally posted by TerraX

Oh, I did. I reached the conclusion that Nazi UFOs were bunk long before I came across that article by Kevin McClure. Did you do any research? Did you notice what the text says in those Vril and Haunebu "schematics"? From your shallow reply I'm guessing that you didn't. Supposedly those craft were able to reach supersonic speeds, had long endurance and even 'ray-guns' (KSK).

If Germany had aircraft like that they would have decimated anything the Allies had in their arsenal. In all likelyhood those "schematics" were made by a teenager having some fun. The sad part is, is that some people actually buy it. There's much more to point out why it is so unlikely the Germans made those crafts (recorded history - logistics - aircraft technology at the time) but in case I'm talking to a brick wall it's best to save my time and energy.
Just leave Adamski out of the silly Nazi UFO propaganda.

If I did any research? My home is the place where you can find probably the largest collection of stuff that is related to the "Nazi-UFOs" on this entire planet. Did you visit my Youtube Channel???
www.youtube.com...

I personally own a piece of Evidence that there was a German base and Expedition in 1960 that isn't listed anywhere:
img261.imageshack.us...
I made a Video about that letter and some of the other stuff I have in my library.


And the drawings you refer to:
freenet-homepage.de...
Those are incorrect reproductions!!!
There are other much less known drawings which haven't found their way into the Internet and only can be partly seen in an Underground German Documentary about the "Flugscheiben". The people that own these Drawings want to remain anonymous because of the fear that Germany declares them as Nazi Propaganda and won't hesitate to take them away and destroy them. I have met people who have seen them with their own eyes and they were stunned, they seem to be real. Those drawings are too large to be placed under a regular scanner.
Just watch:

MUST SEE!!!



By the way, one Name hasn't come up so far. Viktor Schauberger!

The physics of Russell's Cosmology also explains the Free Energy Implosion Technologies of the great Austrian Water Wizard, Viktor Schauberger. Schauberger invented Implosion Turbines in the 30's and 40's in Austria and Germany. This implosion physics defies academic physics and makes academic theory provably obsolete and the professors pushing these socially engineered lies as well. For a detailed account of the free energy technologies of Viktor Schuaberger and Walter Russell, Implosion Physics, Bio-mimicry, Scalar Mechanics and the many types of Free Energy Technologies currently in existence please see: www.feandft.com... Viktor Schauberger Implosion Turbine from the 1940's
www.frank.germano.com...

Sincerely, Haunebu

Originally posted by Haunebu
If I did any research? My home is the place where you can find probably the largest collection of stuff that is related to the "Nazi-UFOs" on this entire planet. Did you visit my Youtube Channel???
www.youtube.com...

Good, you're the one who put up that stuff and tarnished the Adamski case. Excellent. I'll be back later.

Originally posted by Haunebu
How do you explain the "flexibility" of the craft, how its shape is being deformed, back in those days there was no CGI.

How about "I don't know?" Do you?

Just because something is unexplained doesn't necessarily mean it's alien technology or magic. It just means nobody knows, and any answer anyone presents is nothing but conjecture. Maybe it was done with a mirror that accidentally bends at the edges. Is that a less reasonable conjecture than anti-gravity space warping?

Here's a question for you. How come the footage only lasts a few seconds, rather than, say, an hour? And what happens after? As other UFO video demonstrates, UFO exits are the hardest to skillfully accomplish because you have to show it going away using the proper perspective.