Pakistani troops advance against Taliban

Pakistani troops advance against Taliban

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Army says 55 militants are killed as crackdown continues. Curfew is lifted to allow thousands more civilians to flee, though officials fear Taliban fighters will try to blend in and escape too.


The Pakistani military said it had killed 55 Taliban in the Swat Valley on Friday and that it had lifted a curfew so thousands more civilians could flee the area in advance of an expected operation against militants in the area's largest town.

Taliban fighters are reportedly deeply entrenched in Mingora and the military

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[edit on 15-5-2009 by SLAYER69]

Wow. It seems the Pakistani army is going to town so to speak against the Taliban. The fighting has been heavy in the past few days. It seems that they are pushing pretty hard. 55 Taliban killed. I say that's a pretty good start. I wonder how much longer this offensive in the SWAT area will continue?


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There has to be more to this then what is being let on . How can a rag tag army equipped with AK47 and road side bombs be fighting a war agents 2 nations , Pakistan as well as the U.S .
The only way this conflict can pose any threat to Pakistan would be in the event of a sympathetic coup taking place in Pakistan .
Do you think that this may be nothing more then a rouse to put a nuclear bomb into the hands of the Taliban ?

Maybe I am missing something here but something just seems to be a bit fishy .

We are a long way from the report back on mar 15
From The Sunday Times
March 15, 2009
Taliban chief backs Afghan peace talks
Mullah Omar approves talks aimed at ending war in Afghanistan and is participating in Saudi-sponsored peace negotiations www.timesonline.co.uk...

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Exactly nothing ever came of that. I'm wondering just whom is supporting them?
They were taking ground now it seems they are on their heels. Maybe Obama wants this mess done with and is yanking CIA bucks away?

There was also an interesting report that the U.S has a plan to secure Pakistanis nuclear weapons in the event it becomes necessary .

I find that report to be a bit strange as per what I have herd Pakistani nukes are kept far away from the area being effected by the current fighting . The nukes are also , as per reports , very well protected . So not sure why that report was even put out , unless there are bigger plans set to come down the road in the very near future .

U.S. Has Plan to Secure Pakistan Nukes if Country Falls to Taliban
American intelligence sources say the military's chief terrorist-hunting squad has units operating in Afghanistan on Pakistan's western border and is working on a secondary mission to secure foreign nuclear arsenals if the Taliban or Al Qaeda overwhelm Pakistan
www.foxnews.com...


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If there was any danger of this blowing up would we not expect to see more action on the part of India during this time ?

Has India even spoke on this issue ?

This is all a bit strange .

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I agree. The situation in Pakistan has deteriorated rapidly in my opinion and has suddenly become very volatile. My personal opinion is that the U.S. is in some way responsible for this increase in Taliban activity. Should the Pakistan government not be able to effectively handle the Taliban, al Qaida, war on terror, Obama during his campaign for president said he would invade Pakistan. Is it just me, or could this be a lead in to a possible invasion of sorts from the U.S.?

Ever since hearing Obama's remarks about taking the fight to Pakistan, oh, sometime around last summer when he said this, I have been watching. I am not adept at linking articles, etc., but a quick google search for "Obama says invade Pakistan" will find many articles and quotes of his remarks.

Should Pakistan not be able to retain control of it's Taliban controlled regions, this would be the go ahead for Obama to invade Pakistan. Increasing troops and equipment and civilian contractors in the region surely is more than just to regain the upper hand in Afghanistan?

Probably I am just speaking to many other membors of the choir here. But when I speak of such thoughts to my mainly Obama hope and change family members, I just get those side glances back and forth among them all and they change the subject to American Idol or such nonsense.

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I think Obama said that knowing that most of the Taliban in Afghanistan were Pakistani and not Afghans. I'm not sure it's just a US force that would take control but a NATO force rather under American command either way they have plans for just about any Nuclear power in the world that might fall apart for such actions as a contingency.

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How right you are but should we be suspecting something by them releasing this bit of info at this current time ?

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Okay. Meanwhile I will continue to watch and learn. In this present world anything can happen. I do love to watch current events unfold and guess as to why it all happens and hope to one day become more adept at predicting the reasons for things, etc.

Isn't being part of history cool? lol.

I just found a report that states that the U.S gave Pakistan two weeks to deal / start to deal with the Taliban back on April 30

Gen. David Petraeus, commander of U.S. Central Command, has told U.S. officials the next two weeks are critical to determining whether the Pakistani government will survive, FOX News has learned.

"The Pakistanis have run out of excuses" and are "finally getting serious" about combating the threat from Taliban and Al Qaeda extremists operating out of Northwest Pakistan, the general added.
www.foxnews.com...

SLAYER69 I know you are on top of this issue , sorry if you have already seen this report

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Great find.

I like this less bit here.

Petraeus made these assessment in talks with lawmakers and Obama administration officials this week, according to individuals familiar with the discussions.

They said Petraeus and senior administration officials believe the Pakistani army, led by Chief of Staff Gen. Ashfaq Kayani, is "superior" to the civilian government, led by President Ali Zardari, and could conceivably survive even if Zardari's government falls to the Taliban.

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Yep , more reason to think that there is more to this then we are lead to believe ,

Its already proven that most terrorist goups are created by the govt in which they take action or govt that would gain from the group

so i think that the us govt and isreali govt are helping the taliban hamas or who ever the # else so they can invade, which i already knew on the isreali part,

but do you think the us govt is helping them so well have a reason to invade pakistan??

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Well there is a history there. Read more at the link interesting story but do your own research don't trust wiki as the gods honest truth. But it's enough to get started.

Taliban

The Taliban movement is headed by Mullah Mohammed Omar. Mullah Omar's original commanders were "a mixture of former small-unit military commanders and Madrasah teachers,"[7] and the rank and file made up mostly of Afghan refugees who had studied at Islamic religious schools in Pakistan. The overwhelming majority of the Taliban movement were ethnic Pashtuns from southern Afghanistan and western Pakistan, along with a smaller number of volunteers from Islamic countries or regions in North Africa, the Middle East and the former Soviet Union. The Taliban received valuable training, supplies and arms from the Pakistani government, particularly the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI),[8] and many recruits from Madrasahs for Afghan refugees in Pakistan, primarily ones established by the Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam (JUI).[9]

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i forgot about isi, but would the pakistan govt benefit with it being invaded by the us

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I don't think the US would actually invade just bomb some locations flat from air power in support of the Pakistanis.

ooh that makes sense it would then the govt more power over its citizens



the whole worlds #ed if we keep on the track we are on now

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I just posted a new thread. It's the latest breaking news. It's getting pretty serious now.

Pakistani army closes in on Swat town; bomb kills 11