A curious Nazi occult tale

Damn, I just finished a 2 year tour serving in Bergen Hohne and would have happily trundled down the road to Celle and took pics/vids etc. For you guys.

If there's anything in the Bielefeld/Sennelager/Paderborn/Wevelsberg area you want me to dig into, I'm more than happy to be your eyes (that sounds creepy)

The Nazis were in contact with the Greys. Hitler had a Grey "Guardian Angel/Spirit Guide" that protected Hitler. Hitler would have died way earlier in his life if he did not have this Grey ET "protection".

Very interesting thread, definitely going to watch devil's rock now!!

a reply to: Fathertime was in Trenchard 2001 to 2007 with 1RRF. The tunnel your on about I remember seeing and looking into if my memory is correct there was wooden steps That lead up to the wooden door, also think as the tunnel went down ( below HQ block there was a right turn they looked like it lead under the road outside )
I also spent time in Sgts mess and officers mess, was introduced to the other bricked up doorway ( ruperts had had a go at knocking It out and had left a hole that you could see down with a torch )
Was a block up behind the SAT range that was never occupied, was kept locked not sure why I also came across a picture of the old Blk14 that show the same triangle during the day but on the main entrance. Will post but I new to the page

originally posted by: itanosam
The Nazis were in contact with the Greys. Hitler had a Grey "Guardian Angel/Spirit Guide" that protected Hitler. Hitler would have died way earlier in his life if he did not have this Grey ET "protection".

Ummm......... Source?

originally posted by: McGinty


Apart from Hiroshima and Nagasaki...

In the first half of 1945 the allies were making ground towards Berlin, in a race with Starlin's army, who were approaching from the east. Strangely though, Patton was ordered by high command to change course - leave Berlin to Starlin.... Why?

Patton's new mandate was Operation Paperclip: Nazi labs were captured by the Americans and the scientists shipped back to the U.S. Shortly afterwards, in July 1945, the first atom bomb test took place in the U.S... Coincidence?

Hiroshima and Nagasaki may well have essentially been Nazi atom bombs. It appears that the U.S. were less concerned with Berlin & Europe's future after the war than with their own conflict with Japan (who could blame them). I'd guess they were getting nowhere with the A-bomb and had intelligence that the Nazis had made more progress. That fact that the bomb was ready so soon after Operation Paperclip would suggest they were correct.

I believe so, Americans wouldn't have had a rocket program without the Nazis. The Nazis rocket program became ours, we just slapped the American flag on it. It'd be a crazy world if Germany was a little smarter in their war effort, the US military would be nothing without Nazi Germany.

i was at 94 locating regt in the 80s. i lived in block 14 on the second floor ,73 battery living area.i was told by some-one in my troop who was in the diving club and who was a sound person who become a sargent that two divers from the club went into the flooded cellers when they came up again no-one could understand what they were talking about and they ended up with mental health issues.dont know any more about them,other than they were in 94 regt diving club so dont know if they were from 94 or another regiment up the road.i was told of a tunnel going from block 14 to belsen by the same chap which is 20 ks by road.if there was a tunnel the spoil from it could have been dumped at the ranges near belsen,which could easily been dumped there and not stood out as the place was used for tanks and guns to train by the german forces anyway.the ranges are pretty big so i dont think a bit more mud would be a problem. i have lived in a house that had ghosts before i joined the army but i didnt notice any at block 14 but the place was strange in another way.i did find hohne ranges a bit odd and in some of the bivouac areas there pits shaped like swimming pools and had trees coming out of them like someone had put the trees in them in a hurry or to cover something up .also an area by 5 charlie was very cold even when you were under canvas with many space heaters going.if you ask me i think more horrors when on around belsen than what we are told.the russian memorial was errie as well.

another thing before i get older and forget , ex nazis had a meeting at a hotel in the early 80s and there was a large demonstration through celle by lots of young people about 2000 ,we were told not to go to the town centre on this day so some of us did , i didnt see any trouble going on and i think the ex nazis still had their meeting.

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Glad to hear from an old Locater from the Cold war days Chum,
Indeed Area 5 Charlie was pretty miserable place to be The locals where a bit creepy too always popping up from nowhere as if they where keeping an eye on things, Cant have young BAOR Soldiers digging up "edivance" shall we say might cause an upset,

Always thought the British officers where told to keep there mouths shut about the place.(5 Charlie Celle Bergan /Belsan)



Soviet Mass Graves Hörsten. In 1941 Stalag XI C/311 was extended to include a camp and Lazarett (field hospital) for the influx of Soviet POW's caught during Operation Barbarossa.
Between 1941 and 1944 an estimated 30-50000 Soviet soldiers died in Bergen-Belsen due to the totally inadequate living conditions. They died of starvation, froze to death or succumbed to disease. Most of the dozens of mass graves were dug in the winter of 1941/42 when 18000 POW's died. The single grave of a Polish female soldier can also be found in the Cemetery.

Immediately after the end of World War 2 the first measures were taken to lay out the Cemetery. In the summer of 1946 the Soviet Military Mission had a memorial erected with the inscription in both Russian and English 'Here are buried 50000 Soviet prisoners of war tortured to death in German - Fascist captivity'. On the other side of the memorial, in Russian, is 'Rest in peace, dear comrades - the memory of you will live on forever in the hearts of the peoples of the Soviet Union'. A commemorative stone was erected by the Germans in 1968.

The Russian war memorial doesn't really do justice to the amount off Russian POWs perishing there,

That place must be full off unrecovered dead corpses Russian/Jewish alike.

Thanks for Sharing Morgan


Fox. 156 Bty 94 Loc Regt RA.

nice one foxhound, i didnt think anyone was looking at this site any more so thanks for your reply.locals watching us , i wonder if you or anyone remembers a chap in our camp called otto something who was in and out of the headquarters building as some sort of journalist or other ,i was told by someone he was ex africa corp and a spy, at the time i didnt really take much notice but it makes sense now.like you say they did turn up all over , i remember on tactical exercises up the road and a effing chip wagon would turn up ringing a bell for all in the next 10 ks to hear,strange days indeed.something else just different, i was in a pub in hastings east sussex and there was a woman at the bar serving,so i asked her where she was from in germany and she said ; you have never heard of it,its called celle,so i told her i lived there for about four and a half years at told her the streets and stuff i knew so she knew i wasnt talking the piss ,but she never would say a word about the place which i thought a bit odd as it was a nice town ,so prehaps there is something we are not supposed to know about or maybe a bit of guilt that some people carry around.funny thing is the world isnt too big to hide stuff away.any way i would like to be up the ranges right now digging in a few places ,would be interesting to see what comes up that would prove a few points or not , no doubt the locals might turn up in protest.your info on the soviets is good reading foxhound,i think the statue says something like 60.000 at the bottom of the virgin mary,but its a while now from when i last saw it , if i am right there must be unmarked graves along the range road left out of the car park towards 5c area if you get my drift. anyway foxhound thats all for now ,take care for now ,roger out. e troop 73 bty.

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Ok Morgan found some more information on the Russian POW camps,

Makes grim reading to be captured by the German army at the onset of WW2,

I wonder what would have happened to the lads at Dunkirk if they hadn't been brought home to Blighty by the Armada ?



Bergen-Belsen camp was significantly expanded from June 1941 as Germany prepared to invade the Soviet Union. It was transformed into an independent camp known as Stalag XI C (311) which was intended to hold 20,000 Soviet POWs. Two other so-called “Russian camps” were set up nearby: Stalag XI D (321) at Oerbke and Stalag X D (310) at Wietzendorf. Around 41,000 Soviet POWs had died in these camps of starvation, exhaustion and disease by the end of March 1942, and a total of 50,000 Soviet POWs died there by the end of the war.

Stalag XI C (311) was disbanded in the summer of 1943, and Bergen-Belsen became a branch camp of Stalag XI B at Fallingbostel.


Fox

originally posted by: morgankesh62
another thing before i get older and forget , ex nazis had a meeting at a hotel in the early 80s and there was a large demonstration through celle by lots of young people about 2000 ,we were told not to go to the town centre on this day so some of us did , i didnt see any trouble going on and i think the ex nazis still had their meeting.

they are around and can surface thru portals. have seen hans kammler and some others on the streets in present times., their clothes look old. hans has a majestic unmistakable walk. though they do look like relics and i dont mean old age

hi foxhound,good stuff there mate ,thats one hell of a lot of poor souls dragged across europe to meet the fate in a # hole,just think what hitler could have done if he put them in his army instead of being a dick head to them all.anyway i find this all very interesting and didnt know most of this stuff when i was there but you have done a sound job.catch up later old sport.

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Portal?





This is ATS Morgan anything goes.

and so it does fox, i was happy with some facts like the stuff you found out and as far i could tell the ex nazis came in a number of cars like vws ,bmws,mercs and the like. happy days fox.

maybe porta-loo.

so back to block 14 ,lets say the building does go below ground level as that sounds right ,the place is sealed off and no one can go down for what ever reason ,we still dont know.the camp is not far from the river which i cant think of its name but its not too far.now suppose the tunnel that we were told went to belsen only went as far as the river and had a valve or steel door that was opened to flood the lower floors or cellers.no one would really be looking for some water missing from the river and it would soon be replaced naturally.tunnel to belsen ,maybe. tunnel to the river , more likely.up at the ranges the toilets are perched on big pipes which are flooded or flushed to clear them out every now and then.just another angle on the place ,if you look at a map of the town you will see how close the river is.happy days.

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River Aller ?


Anyways just finished nights so will be brief Morgan,


What intrigue's me most and SOXMIS (14 Sigs) is the Paranormal presence at the Heidi Kaserna 77er,

Just cant dot the dots (LSV Dronie cant you tell) as to the significance of this place Ill admit I'm overly Obsessed with finding out what really happened during the war years in Blk14, I Believe its along the lines of the occult, But not Zombies per say, Quite possibly something to do with Arian blood or Creating a system to prolong (Hold off death ?) the Master race.



Bit out there Morgan but it floats my boat so to speak Mucker.

Laters mate.


Fox


Alright I'm gonna say it I'm thinking along the belief that it has to do with Blood transfusion but not Human But an enhanced type off Blood mixed with some supernatural essence ?

Fox.

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To add,


Lance Armstrong is off particular interest. www.livescience.com.

"Blood doping refers to a handful of techniques used to increase an individual's oxygen-carrying red blood cells, and in turn, improve athletic performance. The most commonly used types of blood doping include injections of erythropoietin (EPO), injections with synthetic chemicals that can carry oxygen, and blood transfusions, all of which are prohibited under the World Anti-Doping Agency's (WADA) List of Prohibited Substances and Methods. EPO is produced naturally by the body. The hormone gets released by the kidneys and causes the body's bone marrow to pump out red blood cells. Red blood cells shuttle oxygen through a person's blood, so any boost in their numbers can improve the amount of oxygen the blood can carry to the body's muscles. Then end result is more endurance.

Apparently Lances team Had some Tour buses rigged up as Mini Blood Transfusion stations, But what if it wasn't really Blood as we know it?


Fox.

reply to foxhound2459,
very good stuff, i was trying to get the tunnel and cellars sorted out ,like i said i dont think it would be a difficult thing to do.the river isnt to far so the water to flood the place would be on tap so to speak.if anything i think some of the locals must have known a lot more about what went on.the soldiers based there must have used the town and mixed with the locals like we did.i agree with what you say fox, maybe there is some sort of curse on the place that stops people try to get into the lower floors aswell as local government .i would say this ,i think there was something in the water at celle ,something wasnt right thats for sure .one day the place will give up its secrets like a lot of places do.not so long ago a 30k long nazi built place was found it poland ,and a train load of nazi gold in a hidden tunnel.its only a matter of time fox.i wont keep dronning on ,thanks for that fox.