Who is more biased - Fox News or MSNBC?

So who is more biased Fox News to the right or MSNBC to the left. Personally, I think MSNBC, but I have to admit I lean to the right. This is probably why I feel that way. Also, why do you think they are biased. Is it to get ratings? Because their corporate parents profit from this bent? There is a secret agenda? Other?

If they took Carville out of the mix I'd say Fox. Carville makes up for it all on his own. Man I hate that guy. Even imo.

Why? Ratings = money.

Who cares?

I'll let you in on something.... All of TV is biased.

Both sides of the political spectrum use the media to spread their lies.

What is it nowadays where everyone seems to think they need to choose one or the other, left or right, lib or com, pepsi or coke, fox or msn?

Both side are plying you for a fool. The TV is nothing but a propaganda, conditioning tool. They want you to base your life around what it tells you, so you don't think for yourself.

Whichever you choose makes no difference, they've got you where they want you if you fall for their game.

Ok. Just my opinion here.
The reporting of news, all of it, is by it's very nature a liberal endeavor.
That means the center point is actually a little to the left.
Therefore, Fox would have to be the more biased.
But thats just how I look at it.
Consevative news media. Think about it.

I'd say they are equally far from the center of the spectrum!

Both are biased and going for only half of the US, otherwise, we'd agree on things and that cannot be let to happen!

I would have to almost say that Fox and MSNBC balance each other out. But not in the good way.

Fox has Billo The Clown.
MSNBC has Keith Olbermann (Obama's Biggest Fan)

I mean, aren't they all owned by Viacom and Time Warner and or Rupert Murdoch?

That would put the lid on this very quick, just find out who owns them and there you have it. I'm sure this little "war" we've seen between MSNBC and Fox over the years is just like the rivalry between Pepsi and Coca Cola.

It's FAKEd. All a ratings scam I'm pretty sure. I bet Keith and Billo have dinner and drinks every friday and laugh at the morons who watch their programming.

~Keeper

I don't think it is that they are both biased, or who is more so. FOX has an approach that works for the audience they are targetting and MSNBC works for theirs.

In my opinion: Two sides of the same coin.

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Originally posted by spines
I don't think it is that they are both biased, or who is more so. FOX has an approach that works for the audience they are targetting and MSNBC works for theirs.

In my opinion: Two sides of the same coin.

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This is one way of looking at it, and I think a fair one, that they just pander to their audience.

But thinking deeper, how did they build that audience in the first place? By being biased towards their target audiences opinions. Someone in some position in those networks decided "There is a market here to be tapped".

In FOX's case I think it's because there was an idea that the media was liberal, so starting a station that would appear more conservative was tapping into an audience that felt they were not getting what they needed in other stations.

With MSNBC, I think they saw FOX, and realized, people like blowhard shouty opinionated people, and there wasn't so much of that on the left, thus Olbermann and others were born to fill the gap.

Once they have made this initial decision, and targeted some audience, and gained it, they have little choice but to continue on in this fashion in order to keep them.

I see them both as biased, at least on the opinion shows, after all, that's what opinion shows are about. This then causes a bleed into the actual news coverage, as that needs to be slanted towards the audience that channel has built on the opinion shows.

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I agree, although I feel there is a bit more to it, with your thoughts on FOX. It's not perfect, but OUTFOXED, is a pretty decent documentry you should give a look.

It seems to agree with the opinion that FOX sort of started the ball rolling in the direction the news media has gone.

But with MSNBC, I feel it is a little more than just loud blow-hards who are just as good at talking the news as they are blocking and deflecting 'interviews'...although there are a few on both stations.

With people like Olbermann, arguably MSNBCs show pony, it has a feel that is more high and mighty. It's not that 'they' are wrong because they aren't bombastically red, white and blue; with MSNBC, 'they' are wrong because they are simply...not as smart as you, oh wonderful viewing public.

I don't know. It is almost more obnoxious and depressing then the direction FOX has been sprinting towards since day one.

Fox News is the most obnoxiously biased member of the MSM; but they are one of the few right-wing outlets, so I don't see it as a bad thing, per se.

If I bother to watch the news, I go with BBC or PBS.

I can watch every news channel except for MSNBC.

They can't report anything without their egos oozing from the screen. Olbermman and Maddow always making those stupid faces. Maddow with her lame duck report during the Bush Presidency alone showed complete and utter bias toward the Democrats. Now that Obama is in office she has something of the same nature(forget the name) that continues to rip on the Bush administration.

Alot of people here might dislike Fox News, but if you haven't noticed alot of political threads are started with Fox News articles. Very few are started with anything MSNBC.

Its a hard question, because both are so ridiculously biased.

MSNBC will be kissing Obama's ass all the way 'til the end, no matter how bad he screws up. They also have a tendency, at least in my experience, to prefer reporting human interest and "filler" stories as opposed to real news. Keith Olbermann, while uncovering a fair share of truths during Bush's term, has relegated himself to a mindless Obama defender, and his rants come off as decidedly partisan.

Fox, on the other hand, kissed Bush's ass throughout his entire presidency. They also have Sean Hannity, who does his best to make Republicans look like idiots every time he opens his mouth. Bill O'Reilly isn't much better, but at least he gives his guests a chance to talk without constantly interrupting them. In my experience, Fox likes to report on bigger stories, but they exaggerate the truth to fit their agenda more than the other networks.

They also have the lowest accuracy scores among the three main news networks. As you can see from this Source, Fox News is at the BOTTOM of the barrel when it comes to viewers' knowledge of current events.

The part that gets me the most is they both claim to be fair sources of information. Every time I hear "fair and balanced reporting" on Fox I want to puke. They should just both come out and say it, "We're shamelessly partisan and that's why you watch us!"