Shepard Smith Uncensored: "We Are America, We Do Not Torture!"

Shepard Smith Uncensored: "We Are America, We Do Not Torture!" (VIDEO)

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Fox News viewers witnessed a rather incredible scene on Wednesday as anchor Shepard Smith and Fox contributor Judith Miller (of CIA leak infamy) repeatedly and passionately condemned torture, with Smith declaring at one point, "We are America, we don't torture! And the moment that is not the case, I want off the train! This government is of, by, and for the people -- that means it's mine. That means -- I'm not saying what is torture, and what is not torture, but I'm saying, whatever it is, you don't do it for me! I want off the train when the government starts -- I want off, next stop, now!"

The full segment is worth a watch. And Smith felt strongly enough about the issue to speak out about it again as he was heading into commercial break.

"They better not do it," he said. "If we are going to be Ronald Reagan's Shining City on the Hill, we don't get to torture. We don't do it." Fade to black.

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[edit on 24-4-2009 by News And History]

Mod Edit for title change.

[edit on 4/24/2009 by AshleyD]

UPDATE: On FoxNews.com's online show The Strategy Room, Smith took his opposition to a whole other level. "We are America!" he shouted, slamming his hand on the table. "I don't give a rat's ass if it helps. We are AMERICA! We do not [*SNIP*] torture!!"

Watch:

FOX News is just like other government-controlled news corporations: They're told to lie to the public, on a daily basis. We can not trust the government and their minions. They torture people just as much as they lie to us! We need to take our property out of their hands.

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Enhanced interrogation is NOT torture.

Waterboard derived from college initiations, and being put in a cell with an insect is hardly torture. Being forced to listen to rap music may seem like torture, but nothing like getting a finger chopped off. A Muslim getting questioned by a female may be offensive to him but they need to get over there sexist views. Threatening to send them to another country for interrogation may be a little sneaky, but I'm sure they would rather stay under United States control than go to a Muslim country for interrogation.

I'm sick of the Blame America First crowd. America sets the standard on the way detainees are treated. We should be applauded but the BAF crowd will never go for that.

Torture is not what common college-mates do to each other. The government isn't playing around with their victims. They're hurting their victims. Snap into reality, and stop being a shill for the tyrants, who victimize innocent & harmless people.

reply to post by RRconservative

I agree that EIT does not equate with torture. (Believe me when I say that I can truly torture someone.) Waterboarding is not torture. Putting someone win a roomfull of insects isnot torture unless the insects are poisionous. Sleep deprivation is close to torture. Sleep depreviation combined with listening to rap or heavy metal music is definitely torture.

But it does not involve physical pain. A few sharp knives, a feather, some vinegar and salt, and a man will tell you anything. And that is the mildest thing I can think of. I have many exquiste forms of inflicting physical and psychological pain in mind. And I would not hesitate to use them if it meant protecting my family or my country.

reply to post by RRconservative


This is too important an issue to dismiss it with semantics and word games. "Enhanced interrogation" is a term used by those who torture other living creatures and are too cowardly to admit it. Sadism is not and never will be a virtue. No authorization by any power can ever make it right. All thos who condone such acts are as guilty as those committing them.

Originally posted by kettlebellysmith
reply to post by RRconservative

 

I agree that EIT does not equate with torture. (Believe me when I say that I can truly torture someone.) Waterboarding is not torture. Putting someone win a roomfull of insects isnot torture unless the insects are poisionous. Sleep deprivation is close to torture. Sleep depreviation combined with listening to rap or heavy metal music is definitely torture.

But it does not involve physical pain. A few sharp knives, a feather, some vinegar and salt, and a man will tell you anything. And that is the mildest thing I can think of. I have many exquiste forms of inflicting physical and psychological pain in mind. And I would not hesitate to use them if it meant protecting my family or my country.

"EIT" sounds very clinical. I understand how 'easy' torturing someone is too. Have you ever been renditioned and while indefinitely imprisoned, made to undergo simulated drowning?

If the same effect can be accomplished chemically, doing it any other way is punitive and a crime. How any sentient person can justify horror, terror, and pain as a 'just in case' tool completely eludes me.

Or is it now the contention that torture is necessary? Hollywood comes up with many wonderful torture scenarios to reflect upon, but when it's done to you, then you wake up.

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reply to post by shapeless


And what you claim is "torture" would not make a decent episode of Fear Factor or SERE training.

There will be NO Torture Persecutions, Dummy!

Yet the killing of innocents and raping and pillaging of countries is okay...

The ego of the word torture strikes the emotional bones of many people.

If you are part of a terrorist organization against America, speak up before you get water boarded.

But by stopping water boarding, I am 100% SURE all of our problems will go away, because this right here is what is holding us back. This is why we have had no home attacks since 9/11, yet continue to make friends (except for the few countries in the middle east we are involved in heavily).

Thread of the title should be this.
"We Are America, We Do Not Torture! We just kill you off until you accept our government."

I could add a few more million lines but eh, whatever. Continue living in teletubby land while I am chilling over here in reality drinking a cold can of happy.

Originally posted by RRconservative
Enhanced interrogation is NOT torture.

Waterboard derived from college initiations, and being put in a cell with an insect is hardly torture. Being forced to listen to rap music may seem like torture, but nothing like getting a finger chopped off. A Muslim getting questioned by a female may be offensive to him but they need to get over there sexist views. Threatening to send them to another country for interrogation may be a little sneaky, but I'm sure they would rather stay under United States control than go to a Muslim country for interrogation.

I'm sick of the Blame America First crowd. America sets the standard on the way detainees are treated. We should be applauded but the BAF crowd will never go for that.

But you are against the Government???

Very funny duality RR

reply to post by Seekerof


Torture, rape, murder, warmongers = The United States of America.

And all warmongers.

This is what they do.

Originally posted by kettlebellysmith
But it does not involve physical pain

Would you argue that RAPE is not a torture if proper lubrication was used to ease physical pain ???

I sure wouldn't.

I guess that some of you would, but I reckon we are all different, like snowflakes ...

reply to post by RRconservative


Waterboarding did not "derive from college initiations". The Japanese waterboarded Americans and we hung many for it in retribution. This is one of those cases where history ignored is history repeated. It was torture then, even at the height of the Second World War, it was a crime defined as torture and punished by the gallows.

Calling it "Enhanced Interrogation Techniques" does not make it less morally reprehensible. Just like calling a war a "conflict" won't change the hell we put our children through in the name of whole-sale murder, what one today would call "foreign policy".

Originally posted by mental modulator

But you are against the Government???

Very funny duality RR

I am for Government protecting this country from its enemies. It's one of the few things government does that is mandated in the Constitution.

love shepard smith, he usually doesnt spew his opinions much, but when it does, it makes for great television.

Originally posted by spellbound
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Torture, rape, murder, warmongers = The United States of America.

rape of nanking and unit 731 = Japan
thats what they do

south east asian expansion at the cost of anything= Britain
Thats what they do

exterminating 6 million jews, gypsys, mentally handicapped= Germany
Thats what they do

Killing their own soldiers that want to retreat= Russia
Thats what they do

see. i can play the game just like you can.