Because of you all..........

Has anyone ever tried fishing with just line and hooks? no rod? I am wondering how effective it would be. Although, I guess you could just tie it to a branch to catch fish, a la' bamboo rods. Im a big fisher, love it. Trouting season will soon be open here!!

Get a hand/arm powered flashlight, and large lighters in a securely waterproof container. Yes, lighters can't light up in cold conditions but they will eventually when you put it between your armpits for it to warm up/dry out and they are very easily brought.

Bring a Survival book. I have the SAS-inspired survival handbook, though there are probably better ones out there.

Know your local foods- The weeds (wild lettuces), leaves, flowers, roots, berries, and stems that make up the area around where you live. Wild animals are scarce and should not be hunted because their numbers are threatened. The first and best thing anyone can do is learn how to grow food and obtain clean water.

It's all you need to have to live, and most importantly, prepares you for a natural disaster. Have a system that grows food continually throughout the summer, spring, fall, and even winter to supplement your diet as much as possible.

Well sheltered, some hardy vegetables will provide their final fruit into the deadest of winters. It depends how well one cares for their growing environment. Attempt to accompany your compost system inside the outdoors greenhouse, the heat from the compost pile will help heat the greenhouse. Try to invest in a reputable solar power system if you have the money.

If self sustainable local, organic agricultural practices were practiced by everybody, nobody would need to become roving bands of nomad raiders, Mad Max's and/or SHTF refugees at the mercy of these types.






[edit on 21-4-2009 by star in a jar]

reply to post by stereovoyaged


It can be done. I used to do it off the docks when I worked in alaska. Before you practise it, I'd say check local regulations, no sense in getting in trouble.

reply to post by stereovoyaged


I caught a 6 lb bass off a dock with line on my finger.
Went and found a few worms and bang there it was.
I was originally just trying to get a few small ones and ended up with that instead.
Now i have fishing line and a few hooks in my bob.

[edit on 21-4-2009 by DrumsRfun]

Awesome guys!! thats the answer I was looking for, line and hooks take up much less room than a collapseable rod

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Here I thought I would throw this in there as well for you.
This guy is very good at what he does.
I actually got this from an ats member but can't remember who.
www.youtube.com...
I love his bag by the way.

reply to post by DrumsRfun


will be sure to have a peek when im home tnight, thanks a lot, but at the moment i am at work, and sadly youtube doesn't work, le sigh

Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by Bombeni

 

Yeah....a new testament....those thin pages make good kindling for your fire.

Ya know...personally, I'm not the 'survivalist' type, ya know? Unless it's at a Ritz Carlton. I expect to be wiped out in the first wave, anyway...

Weedwhacker, first waver here too. Who'd wanna go camping? Maybe you're forced to change your location, in which case, you can see from examples of refugees in war or from natural disasters, staying with the herd is the most . More central location for the reprovision of medical services, communications etc. Also,

In fact, having spent a good deal of my life in the bush, in my opinion the country is one of the last places you'd want to be, especially homeless (draw suspicion and resentment from locals), armed (draw attention from law enforcement AND locals) and with supplies (draw attention from theives). It's easier too, if something goes wrong in a rural area, to point the finger at the outsider. X steals from Y, he can easily fob it off on the wandering survivalist city folk who seemed so friendly.

Even the most isolated place , it only takes one night flyover and infra-red scan by the airforce to pinpoint your location to the authorities. Move on from that good spot? Why, because a jet flew over high at night?

Finally, if you become a serious problem for whatever reason (read automatic weapons), then they can play you off against your survivalist neighbor who they have also flagged (read automatic weapons). They gather intelligence, find out areas of conflict, and escalate them, covertly.

You think your neighbor did it. Your neighbor thinks you did it. Family fueds with sub-machine guns. They mop up, you're an example.

That's the ten thousand pound gorilla in the room. Sit X doesn't mean the end of law enforcement. It means the end of a lot of controls over the behaviour of law enforcement and government agencies.

My BoB has become something of an obsession for me over the past few months. I'm kind of a gearhead in general, and a knife junky to boot, so my kit reflects that somewhat. But here's my list (which changes almost every day)

Bag- Maxpedition Jumbo Versipack- very nice. It holds a lot and carries comfortably, is durable, and doesn't look like a purse. The whole idea of a BoB is to have it with you all the time- it doesn't do you any good if it's not on you. So choose a bag you will be comfortable carrying all the time- as a "man purse" if you will.

The Jumbo has a pocket for a 32oz Nalgene bottle, so that's in there, filled with water. A stainless-steel bottle is better on paper, but I haven't warmed to them yet. It's good to always have water.

Knife- the most important part of a BoB kit. Choose yours wisely. The ideal survival knife has a 4-5", drop point blade, a full tang, and micarta slab handles. The spine should be flat, with thumb notches for sparking a firesteel. My favorite "BoB" knives right now are the RAT Cutlery RC-4, and the Bark River Bravo-1. (the Bravo-1 is the current issue survival knife for USMC Force Recon) In general, you want high-quality carbon steel. If you're in a very wet or salty environment, the Spyderco Aqua Salt is a good choice- 100% rust proof.

I'm a knife guy, so I carry a Busse Game Warden in my actual kit as my back up knife, and a Leatherman Wave as my multi-tool, with a Victorinox Champion as my backup. I usually have an extra knife I'm playing with in there, and my Chris Reeve Sebenza never leaves my pocket, even when I sleep.

The Maxpedition Versipacks have concealed carry pockets built into them as their primary raison d'etre. I don't carry a gun everyday, but the pocket's there if I need to. I keep my main knife in there usually, but it fits my Glock 19 and a pair of spare magazines nicely.

Now for the kit itself, which goes into the main compartment of the bag. The bag itself is a "Set to Summit" stuff sack, made of thin, light, waterproof cordura. Those little stuff sacks are amazing kit. Contents:

small diamond sharpening stone
small medical kit (band aids, antacids, painkillers)
2 Bic lighters with O rings to prevent gas leakage
Misch Metal firesteel (backup for the one on my main knife's sheath)
sewing kit
pencil sharpener- makes sticks into great tinder!
small ziplock bag full of fatwood (tinder)
10 feet of jute cord (cordage, spare tinder)
"Heatsheets" survival blanket/ tarp
Space blanket
P-38 can opener
Fox-40 rescue whistle
CMG Infiniti single AA, LED flashlight (100+ hour burn time)
Princeton Tec Attitude LED flashlight
several hanks of different types of cordage
Ben's Max 100% Deet insect repellent
bandanna (for straining water)
water purification tablets
pocket chainsaw
SAS Survival guide (pocket version)
REI titanium spork
extra webbing belt (to carry my knife on so it won't pull my pants down)

It sounds like a lot, but it really doesn't weigh much, or take up much space. The whole shebang is about the size of an average woman's purse. There's enough room left over, I can stick a couple of diapers, some wipes and a bottle inside for my son.

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Awesome!! I'm off to Canadian Tire after work to see what kind of napsacks they have, or maybe even the army/navy store, im sure they might have some good gear too

One of the best investments you could make is to purchase some IOSAT. Its ten dollars for a package of 14 pills, 1 pill taken every 24 hours in the event of a nuclear explosion or nuclear power plant disaster. It protects your thyroid gland so radioactive iodine wont effect you. Just watch out when ordering online, there are a lot of fakes out there, Just remember you want IOSAT and its potassium IODINE pills NOT IODITE. If you u2u me I will give you the website I ordered mine from, IOSAT is the only FDA approved pills. Every American should have some. But most people (zombies) think that a nuke going off is just down right impossible.

Originally posted by stereovoyaged
Has anyone ever tried fishing with just line and hooks? no rod? I am wondering how effective it would be. Although, I guess you could just tie it to a branch to catch fish, a la' bamboo rods. Im a big fisher, love it. Trouting season will soon be open here!!

Done it from a longtail boat in the tropics. Catching fish was as easy as 1 2 3