Spy's Whistle Dixie: MI5 and MI6 unable to stop Secret Wars' publication

Spy's Whistle Dixie: MI5 and MI6 unable to stop Secret Wars' publication

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The courts would not grant an injunction, officials said yesterday, because the book, Secret Wars - One Hundred Years of British Intelligence Inside MI5 and MI6, by Gordon Thomas, has already been published, and is widely available, in the US.

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[edit on 15-4-2009 by falcon]

Well too bad for you if you were trying to keep something quiet or covered up theres more of us then there are of you go spys go! Seriously though it was bound to come down like this if you cant go to the media and you cant leak it online then of chorse you have no choice but to write a book.

But how far will it go before shots are fired on both sides and not with paper either. All you have to do if your in the U.K. and the press wont let you get ahold of this book is know someone in the united states that can buy a copy for you and send it overseas .

Its due out on may 4th in the U.K.

Falcon


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I started a thread yesterday about this rift that seems to be evident with MI5 and the CIA--evidently the two agencies are not getting along very well.....what do you make of it? I hate to be an alarmist, but it seems like there is so much fear mongering going on in the UK (here as well) that IF an attack was to take place there (UK) then the CIA could say...well we aren't dealing with MI5 anymore, they went and published their secrets, gave evidence of torture, yada yada

S&F

reply to post by mkultraangel


MI5 is the UK version of the CIA?

MI6 is the UK version of the FBI?

Just asking.

This sounds like a stupid reason to take jabs at each other. Unless there is more 'consequence' to the truth than at first meets the eye.

I have no idea what MI6 is, though making a connection with the US FBI may be on target....I'd appreciate someone clearing that up.. But, yes it seems that MI5 and CIA are very comparable and have "been in bed with each other" so to speak--that is up until lately

hmmmmm

HMMM ok maybe the MI6 is more like the NSA...

In the run up to the invasion of Iraq in 2003, MI6 conducted Operation Mass Appeal which was a campaign to plant stories about Iraq's WMDs in the media. The operation was exposed in the Sunday Times in December 2003. Claims by former weapons inspector Scott Ritter suggest that similar propaganda campaigns against Iraq date back well into the 1990s. Ritter claims that MI6 recruited him in 1997 to help with the propaganda effort. "The aim was to convince the public that Iraq was a far greater threat than it actually was" - Scott Ritter, Sunday Times, December 28, 2003.

On 6 May 2004 it was announced that Sir Richard Dearlove was to be replaced as head of the SIS by John Scarlett, former chairman of the Joint Intelligence Committee. Scarlett is an unusually high-profile appointment to the job, and gave evidence at the Hutton Inquiry.

en.wikipedia.org...

On 15 November 2006, MI6 allowed an interview with current operations officers for the first time. The interview was on the Colin Murray show on BBC Radio 1. The two officers (one male and one female) had their voices disguised for security reasons. The officers compared their real experience with the fictional portrayal of MI6 in the James Bond films. While denying that there ever existed a "licence to kill" and reiterating that MI6 operated under British law, the officers confirmed that there is a 'Q'-like figure who is head of the technology department, and that their director is referred to as 'C'. The officers described the lifestyle as quite glamorous and very varied, with plenty of overseas travel and adventure, and described their role primarily as intelligence gatherers, developing relationships with potential sources. The interview is seen largely as a public relations and employment tactic, following the placement of advertising for applicants on the agency's website for the first time in April 2006.

reply to post by Maxmars


Mi5 Has an internal role, and also an overseas role in support of its mission

Mi6 Has an external role

en.wikipedia.org...

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The book looks like a good read, I shall buy it

[edit on 15-4-2009 by Pockets]

The MI5 was the old name for what is currently now the BSS (British Secret Service). The MI6 was the old name for what is now the SIS (Secret Intelligence Service).
The BSS is covering the inland counter-espionage and counter-terrorism intelligence sector, whereas the SIS is responsible for the foreign intelligence gathering.
If comparable at all, the closest match to the CIA would be the SIS, because basically neither "officially" operate within the country.
BSS would be closer to a mix of DHS and FBI.
Hope this clears it up a bit.

[edit on 15/4/09 by icblue]

MI5 is the Security Service and MI6 is the Secret Intelligence Service.

Public information about the three uk intelligence services, MI5,MI6 and GCHQ can be found at: direct.gov.uk