PROVING religon is correct

Hey, I'm in a argument with a friend, arguing pro-religion. That came up to me, what about a thread devoted to PROVING that religion is explainable and true. Personally, I'm not atheist, or super-religious, but hey, why not!

Use your search feature. This subject has been discussed adnauseum, and it is ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE to definitively prove or disprove.

Time to debate another subject with your friend.

If used the right way, I think religion can be "correct". It's like a tool, if you use it wrong of course it won't have the right effect, similarly if you just ignore it entirely (as for secular people). But even if someone is "post religion" in their ideas, I think it can still be extremely helpful to study.

Originally posted by ghaleon12
If used the right way, I think religion can be "correct". It's like a tool, if you use it wrong of course it won't have the right effect, similarly if you just ignore it entirely (as for secular people). But even if someone is "post religion" in their ideas, I think it can still be extremely helpful to study.

I agree that knowledge of anything is good, but that is not the question. The question is whether religion is provable/true. And it is absolutely not.

Does this mean that we can start believing in Santa Claus/The Easter Bunny & the Tooth Fairy again, because with them at least I got presents/candy/money & with Religion all I got was fear mongering from my parents.

Originally posted by cautiouslypessimistic

Originally posted by ghaleon12
If used the right way, I think religion can be "correct". It's like a tool, if you use it wrong of course it won't have the right effect, similarly if you just ignore it entirely (as for secular people). But even if someone is "post religion" in their ideas, I think it can still be extremely helpful to study.

I agree that knowledge of anything is good, but that is not the question. The question is whether religion is provable/true. And it is absolutely not.

Each person has to determine that for themselves about what is true and what isn't. All the proof you need is within yourself. Having "physical" proof or something to convince people is not the point, and it would actually harm a person's spiritual development because there would be no free choice given to a person from God. If you're looking for that proof, you won't find it but you already have the tools needed. There is no "universal truth" really because everyone is at a different level of understanding. Each person is accountable for themselves, I don't think anyone or any religion needs to prove anything. The work has to be done by the person, no one can do it for you. I could have given up on my search once I found one thing I didn't find "sensible", but that is lazy.

Religion is a great starting block for truth. If it is alive in a person they will more towards truth. If people don't have a desire to develop their soul and would prefer staying a beast, that is their choosing and they have no one to blame but themselves. I've seen that people get frustrated seemingly outwardly towards religion/spirituality, but all that frustration should be focused on themselves. The work you need to do is internal work, has nothing to do with whatever notions a person holds on to.

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reply to post by smokehouseslim


Belief has nothing to do with anything. Belief is an interesting word/concept. What fundamental change occurs in a person from holding an intellectual "belief"? Simply believing something to be true will not change a person. Most of Christianity says you have to believe that Jesus physically died and was resurrected in order to save us from sin, but is forcing a believe really what we're supported to do? If a person has a hard time holding on to that idea, are they just supposed to repeat it 1000 times every time they think otherwise? I would say no..

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reply to post by truth_seeker3


Its impossible to have that kind of discussion without running into the face of logical thinking .
Just which ancient or current religion does somebody try to prove ?
Heck the ancient Greeks worshiped gods and every current religion argues that it is the one true faith . Its almost like kids arguing in the classroom about whose Dad could beat someone else dad .

Cheers xpert11 .