"The County Sheriff: America's Last Hope"

reply to post by space cadet


Unfortunately corruption runs amuck in every level of office in our country. Also, I am very aware of Ga and Ala justice.

The ideas posted here are hopefully a place to start. Being that the sheriff's office is an elected position on a smaller scale, and that it does wield such power; we need to carefully research anyone that we vote into office. Thanks!

Oh yeah.
I curse naturally so of course when he threatened to put me on the ground for cursing, i naturally responded with a WTF your kidding me right, next thing I know, I'm charged with disorderly conduct, and the county boy got the probable cause he need to breathalyze me. Looking back on it, he really did try to get under my skin.

I don't know, my encounters with police are never good, even when I call them.

Like I said If more sheriffs and officers of the law really followed what you posted my respect for them would be earned, rather than automatically given; like they expect and get pissy about if it doesn't happen.

reply to post by sizzle


Another great thread S&F, hopefully many will read it.

I especially like the part about how he can summon as many people as he thinks necessary to help carry out his duties. That would be great if tshtf, that means he can deputize all willing to fight for their country and they'd all be duely sworn LEO's with the authority (by the governments standards) to protect their country form ALL enemies.

I now it caused a big stink when our sheriff here in Cook county said he wasn't going to evict any more people from foreclosed properties unless they had received the proper 90 day notice. He knew what his powers were and chose to use them, at least in this one incident.

reply to post by chise61


Hi Chise!
So glad to hear from you. And as always, your comments are right on cue. Kudos for Cook County! What a blessing!

reply to post by sizzle


Thanks, Nice to see another one of your great threads !

I took a break for about 5 months, got burned out, things just got too crazy around here for awhile.

I'm back though and looking forward to more of your threads.

reply to post by chise61


Yes, I understand exactly what you mean. Funny that I did exactly the same thing for the same reasons. Glad to see you back. Always enjoy your support and intelligent comments on any issue.

reply to post by ThirdJohnAdams

Perhaps you should consider bringing charges against the officer. If he didn't see fit to write you a ticket, or take you to jail, but tazed you anyway, then something is wrong, and he needs to be gotten out of the sytem. Check with his superior officers. He may have gotten numerous complaints (or even charges) that you don't know about. Yours may be the one the breaks the camel's back.

It's worth noting though that not all sheriff's departments perform the same functions. Up here in the Northeast for example there is a growing trend of "county police departments" and State Police taking away patrol functions from county sheriff's. In my county for example (Suffolk County, NY) the sheriff's office is a full service agency meaning they do regular patrols (mainly in the rural Eastern part of Long Island), highway patrol (on the Long Island Expressway and Sunrise Hwy), court security, civil process, warrants, evictions, etc and running the county jail. They also have every type of specialized unit known to mankind including a SWAT team, K9, Marine Unit, Aviation Unit, ATV unit, Criminal Investigations (detectives), etc. YET in the county next to mine in Nassau County, NY the sheriff's department only runs the jail and handles court security, civil process, warrants, evictions, etc. Regular police functions are handled by the Nassau County Police and the individual town/village police departments. Nassau County also does not have an elected sheriff, I believe they are one of the handful of counties where the sheriff is appointed by the county executive.

Both departments have over 1,000 sworn officers each so it's not representative of most sheriff's departments, the average of which only has about 30 sworn officers according to the FBI's Uniform Crime Report.

[edit on 30-3-2009 by ChrisF231]

reply to post by ChrisF231


Hi Chris,
Maybe this is why it would be a good idea to make sure every Sheriff has a copy of what his powers include. Maybe not everyone of them is totally aware of what all their office has the power to do. ? ? ?

I live in Phoenix, AZ. Believe me our sheriff knows his powers and abuses them all he can.

reply to post by Dj Refuesal


Unfortunately, that happens more than we care for. Even one instance is one too many.
I wonder if the SD falls under action from the Attorney General. Wouldn't hurt to research that.

reply to post by Dj Refuesal


I know how you feel, our now resigned sheriff has a little issue with the FEDS.....

Va. sheriff indicted on federal conspiracy charges

CHARLOTTESVILLE, Va. — A rural Virginia sheriff faces racketeering, conspiracy and other charges stemming from accusations that he took bribes in exchange for promising not to interfere with a cockfighting ring.
A 22-count indictment against Page County Sheriff Daniel W. Presgraves unsealed Thursday also accuses him of intimidating potential witnesses. The indictment alleges he sexually assaulted and harassed four female employees, harassed seven others and intimidated another.

Presgraves, 46, pleaded not guilty at a court appearance and was released on $50,000 bond. If convicted of all charges, he faces up to 304 years in prison.

Not a ringing endorsement for sheriffs' being the last hope, while my county's situation is not the majority, I am sure that there are other cases of those who hold this office are no less corrupt than our more familiar elected representatives.

I really need to keep my mouth shut but..... What do you do when your 370 pound cousin is a deputy sheriff and say's he will inforce a city, state, or national gun confiscation order if told to do so. MM [sigh]

Originally posted by mormonmike
I really need to keep my mouth shut but..... What do you do when your 370 pound cousin is a deputy sheriff and say's he will inforce a city, state, or national gun confiscation order if told to do so.

MM [sigh]

i suppose that I could also reach back and recall a few sheriffs' that I was more than a little displeased with. But it is with great hope that with the power that their office holds, that maybe we can lessen the number of Re-ject lawmen. Especially the SD.

reply to post by mormonmike


Try reminding him that he swore an oath to support the constitution of the United States. That any order to disarm the citizens of the United States is unlawful as it is in direct violation of the constitution (2nd amendment) and if he were to follow those orders he would be breaking his oath, and no longer eligible to be a deputy sheriff.

Some LEO's are simply unaware of the fact that their first loyalty is to the United States constitution, and that they must not follow laws that go against it, as these laws break the law of the land.

reply to post by mormonmike
You tell him he needs to lose weight! Anyone that heavy obviously does not meet the physical requirements to do the job. (He sure as hell can't run down a suspect.) If necessary bring it before the Quorum Court, or whatever the ruling body of the county is. He does not need to be in the job if he is not physically capable of carrying out his duties.

Sheriff Mack interview.
SHERIFF MACK PART 1 THE STATE AGAINST THE 2ND AMENDMENT
SHERIFF MACK PART 2 THE STATE AGAINST THE 2ND AMENDMENT
SHERIFF MACK PART 3 THE STATE AGAINST THE 2ND AMENDMENT

He tells it like it is. Federal Government is way out of line.

[edit on 10-5-2009 by imd12c4funn]

In Texas a constable has more power then a sheriff.
and have the powers equal to or above a Texas ranger.

Constable's Jurisdiction

Constables may make arrests for felonies or breaches of the peace anywhere in Texas [1] They may enforce traffic laws anywhere in the state.
they also may enforce fish and game laws.

Originally posted by mormonmike
I really need to keep my mouth shut but..... What do you do when your 370 pound cousin is a deputy sheriff and say's he will inforce a city, state, or national gun confiscation order if told to do so.

MM [sigh]

Feed him more donuts,
When he reaches 500+ pounds lets see him do any gun confiscations.

Did not see this anywhere (just trying to revive this thread)





The other sheriff

yeah . . . I live in one of the most corrupt places in the US.

Our Sheriff's suck