Re: Humanoid Aliens

reply to post by SaviorComplex


By the way SC, you originally said - regarding the idea of ET visitors, on the one hand, and an entire technologically advanced UFO flying CT civilization, undiscovered for millenia, hidden somewhere on earth, on the other - that:

They are equally as logical

Later you of said of the CT theory:

It is far more reasonable and logical than the ETH

Which is it? Or does it not matter, as long as you are disagreeing with me?

[edit on 3-4-2009 by Malcram]

reply to post by Malcram


can we plase stop doing this??

Ok i know for sure ill get a warnng but PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD ( or whatever) STOP TURNING THIS INTO A # MEASURING CONTEST

its not a # GOTCHA QUESTIION (for wather sake) you know what i mean

sorry but one needs to flame in order to put the TOPIC back in hand...

we are trying to work out the way or how atleast we can get aliens that look like humans or the other way round ect

Stop bloody trying to score points on each other its pathetic....


: note to self you are doing well containg you rage at other members without being banned or removed.

one thing i have to say... please just stop read what others say and try not to score poitns or get mad

I was banned from ATS for this myself...

my name is THE RESULT and infact i would rarther bite my lip and argue my case via ways that do not put members down but try to understand them and if i need to argue my case.. then alteast think befor i type..

a lesson that was learnd for me on here.. and in saying this i may get banned again.. for being honest and trying to keep u2 from beating each other Up



wats it worth? jack jiggery pokery

reply to post by symmetricAvenger


SA. I have to say, I think you are the very last person who should be handing out advice like this considering the endless trail of lengthy posts targeting Indigo you have just left in the Debunking Pseudo-skepticism thread.

I want to know which position SC actually subscribes to and why - and why the change. I was addressing SC.

reply to post by Malcram


the last person ? if indeed you know me.. i think i did verywell..

you see i was on ats under another name and i do not hide this fact nor will i.. I know and have read many of your posts in regards to this thread and i did not even bring up that "other one" ..

You see i have learned not to infact insult others outright but to use my own interlect as my weapon.. I follow ats rules to the full .. and i will becuase not to do so is silly..ATS t+c is there for a reason and it did not hit me at first as i was brash and wanted to prove to my pesudoskeptipcs ot whatever i was right!! "forcefully" and this was MY mistake..

To infact insult someone gets you no where to accuse another member gets you no were BUT to provide a logical argument can.. and this does not require you to insult them as a person nore does it require you to form some pesudo arguement of a group...

you see.. all i do now is use my interlect and mathmatics to agru my case.. and mathmatics at its core is based on 2 things

logic and infinity

I was insulted befor about my grammar and spelling by indigo.. did you come to my defence? nope you did not... did i ever once say or try and caputer you into an "i gotcha" moment? Nope i did not..

I was trying my best to understand the argument she.he mande just like the OP has done in here.. he asked a valid question he wante to state how he felt, and if you looked at his repsonces to me..he was happy to say ok well so how can it happen...

he listened to the argument, and even if he didnt agree with it so what? does that make me any more right than him? does that make me better?

this is the problem i have with the other topic you brought into this.. indigo child

did you even look up the name? did you not yourself question her.his motive? or are you infact blind and as arrogant as .him./her?

im hoping from reading your past comments "may i add many i did agree with and gave you stars" that the critical thinking you apply to others in THIS debate you apply to OTHERS in another..

You get what im saying here i suspect

and for the record im being honest not just to YOU but the very accont i have made and wish to keep in order for you and him not to bitch at each other when I MYSELF hated not being able to contribute to ATS

and if you think im lying

theresult

that was my other name

the mods know it and so do you and so does little indigo..

reply to post by Adrifter


agreed...was looking at Indigo's Ancient Civilizations thread...mind boggling to say the least...

reply to post by symmetricAvenger


Symmetric...I agree that people tend to point out Grammatical errors when they become confused and they lash out at their inability to grasp some of the concepts that you put out there simply as something to think about...and I think your points are very valid as well...

This should be a forum for evolving...not for holding onto one's beliefs...as this entire site is about Discovery and Exploration...but some people love to enforce their own belief system on to others unfortunately...

Well Said Symmetric...

Cheers...

reply to post by qbik2008


That made my day.. and i can say thank you for that

not to stroke my own ego, but more in case about the last part of your own statement about why we all come here in the first place.

its to understand learn and progress.. not to aruge with eath other.. we see that on tv everyday..

I for one have a wide range of ideas some dont understand nore grasp.. does not make me anymore honest than the person who does not agree.. just means we share different opinions on any givin subject.. and atleas both have learnd things via the debate they may not have found out.

it should always be win win for both.

And thanks again for your comments about my grammer and spellings.. a very true statement indeed

Originally posted by mystiq
I myself saw a grey at 4 or 5, and the modern depictions of them are pretty accurate, not to mention that they are humanoid. As are nordics. This seems to be the most common form at least in the kind of physical life forms that we're used to. I'm sure there are other types too, but not as commonly visiting us or contacting us.

do you think they will help us?
Im scared.

Perhaps we are a branch of the Alien family tree?

Maybe we were once a spacefaring nomadic race,and on finding this planet,decided to settle here,only to later lose the knowledge of our journey and arrival due to some cataclysm that befell us?

Our "visitors" could well be relatives,just popping in for a quick visit?

So many questions,so few answers!

reply to post by scobro


tahts the thing tho if one looks at it they could even be us in another dimention

its a crazy topic i will admit and infact i aint got a clue but its great to listen to everyones views

Humanoid beings that are abducting us are not alien,they are simply a race or races of humans originating on earth that we havent been aware of.If we put our vanity on the shelf as a human for a second we may be able to grasp the concept that we arent masters of our universe on this planet.

Technology makes us seem like gods to amazon tribesmen ONLY TECHNOLOGY NOTHING ELSE, STRIP US ALL DOWN AND WE ARE THE SAME.

We are the terran tribesmen and if you strip down the technolocicaly advanced humanoids that took me you will find they are just like us.

We are looking to hard for what is right in front of us ,the fact that there are great powers trying to bastardize the truth for their personal gain doesnt help disclosure,but it also doesnt stop humans from communicating what they experience to each other on the internet.

You should have been in my head the first time I read about another seven year old like me WHO WAS ABDUCTED BY HUMANS IN BLUE TIGHTFITTING JUMPSUIT STYLE UNIFORMS.

Its shocking to realise that your own personal "fairy tale"or "special experience" is REAL AND NOT A FIGMENT OF YOUR IMAGINATION.

In fact it sets your life in motion in directions you never thought you would go.Like here to ATS.

Why do so many more people question the validity of humans doing the abducting while so many are prepared to accept green,blue,insect,and reptile ect abductors?

Its because they would rather hear something that is largely impossible so they feel safe from HUMANITIES GREATEST FEAR,THE UNKNOWN NO MATTER WHAT IT ACTUALLY TURNS OUT TO BE WE FEAR IT INITIALLY.

Its to believable to hear that humans are doing these things and we are inclined to distrust our governments so it is overwhelmingly obvious why disclosure is seemingly so difficult,I say seemingly because I JUST GAVE YOU COMPLETE DISCLOSURE WHEN I TOLD YOU I WAS ABDUCTED BY HUMANOIDS.We are afraid of the dark and until we see in THE LIGHT OF DAY THE PHYSICAL PRESENTATION WE WILL CHOOSE TO DISBELIEVE.

Pointing out errors in grammer isnt just a random happening.It is a common disinformation tactic to intentionally de-rail peoples focus on a "threatening to the establishment" type of thread that has hit a soft spot.People dont come to ATS to check others grammer .

The type of people who frequent this site are obviously educated by and large.When you see what you think is an obviously retarded attempt to take a thread or the direction of the general discussion IN A TOTALLY UNRELATED DIRECTION USING NONSENSICAL REASONING it is what it looks like and we call that a dis-information tactic here on earth.

I've seen EXCATLY THIS TYPE OF BEHAVIOUR DISPLAYED ON EVERY THREAD WITH SIMILARITIES TO MY ABDUCTION so I would like to take the time to thank all of the hardworking dis-information people for making my job a lot easier as far as disclosing the truth goes.It is a lot easier to look for and find this type of behavior on a random thread than it is to READ HUNDREDS OF THREADS IN THEIR ENTIRITY.I have found my margin of error to be very small compared to before I began to piggyback the professional dis-information employees.

Why wouldnt they be humanoid when all life was created by god and we were created in his image?Why wouldnt god put images of himself on all the planets or places he put life??

Do you get me?You will never be able to seperate man and god because he created us its that simple,aliens ,green men,reptiles,give me a break already they are all possible but none were originally created in gods image.This is the point there is no need for thousands of religons WHEN THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD,this is one of our biggest problems as human beings,we dont get to make up the story as we go and gather enough friends to defend our "made up crap"by killing all the people who refuse to subscribe to our "made up reality".

One god ,one origin, thousands or millions of occurences of life in the universe with an ,equitable amount of godlike representations scattered throughout.

Of course they are HUMANOID .

By the way I am not a religos person,for those who havent realised this yet you dont need a group of henchmen to believe in god,as a matter of fact if you have ever in your life felt that it was a necessary evil to go to war with and kill people of a different religon,YOU DO NOT BELIEVE IN GOD YOU BELIEVE IN WHAT ANOTHER MAN TELLS YOU IS GOD.

Originally posted by one4all
You will never be able to seperate man and god because he created us its that simple,aliens ,green men,reptiles,give me a break already they are all possible but none were originally created in gods image.

Are you saying that God looks humanoid?

All the best,

N

reply to post by one4all


YOU ARE A GOD

oops...can of worms...

I am saying that man was created in the image of god ,therefore we are as god is,in physical,emotional,and spiritual senses.I am not saying that god is excatly like us I am saying we are created in his image.This means that there could be a multitude of very different physically developed living creatures that ALL ARE CREATED IN GODS IMAGE BUT LOOK ABSOLUTELY STRANGE TO EACH OTHER.

ONLY BECAUSE NONE OF THEM HAVE ACTUALLY SEEN GOD IN HIS TOTALITY,WE ARE ALL GUESSING WHAT HE LOOKS LIKE AND OF COURSE WE ALL GUESS HE LOOKS EXCATLY LIKE US.

Yes I believe each of us is a god.I believe that we are all created in gods image with all of his potential and qualities,we just dont ascend to a level that allows us to realise it BECAUSE OUR LIFESPANS ARE KEPT SHORT ARTIFICIALLY.

Can you imagine what we could realise in terms of our potential IF WE KEPT LEARNING AT A 10 LEVEL FOR THREE HUNDRED YEARS? Could you just imagine how much more we could understand and how different our vision of humanities future would be because of our 300yrs of knowledge accumulated BEFORE OUR DEATH?

Our potential is not tapped properly and our lifespans are kept artificially short by some type of genetic poison.

Humanity has responded as nature would dictate and we have learned to adapt and breed like rabbits until there are six billion of us.We did this in response to our lifespans being shortened.

What if there is an existing RACE OF HUMANS who have retained this lifespan?

Do you see my point,we wouldnt be able to "out them" because they are so few in numbers due to their reproductive cycle being seperated by hundreds of years.

They would observe us and maybe be discovered and the discovery hidden to benefit THE FEW WHO HAD KNOWLEDGE OF THEM AND THEIR TECHNOLOGY.You see knowledge comes up again or rather the subjugation of humanity through the withholding of knowledge.

If we could live long enough to realise our potential EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US IS A GOD.That is how we were created and what we were designed to ultimately ascend to.

The real question is WHY AND WHO HAS RAINED ON OUR PARADE AND SCREWED WITH OUR EVOLUTION INTO GODS AS WE WERE MEANT TO DO???

reply to post by one4all


Im not often left speechless after reading posts but can i just say thank you and for putting that in a very aticulate manner than i would fail to do so.

You hit so many points on the nail for me. infact i added you as a friend

as for who or what is or has put a spanner in the works? I think its a mixture of aliens from another "place" and humans just doing what infact they do best.. # each other over

Was Great reading you posts stars all the way

They could be protecting us from ourselves. They could be thinking about our safety, we all know what happens when humans get too much power too fast.

It makes no sense to me they do it to keep us down. Any being with the knowledge of what we can evolve to and how to stunt that growth are at least thousands of years ahead of us and would probably have nothing to fear of us if we would reach that state.

Love would be the way of the universe, not fear.

[edit on 6-4-2009 by locster]

Locster,we wil within the next ten or twenty years through stem cell breakthroughs and nano-technology be able to program human genes to do excatly what we want for as long as we want.

Part of our history and present reality is the INDISPUTABLE FACT that we have began an unparreled in human history LEAP FORWARD IN TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCEMENT as a species.

This hasnt happened gradually either it is very recent in our species history AND THIS IS THE CRUX OF THE DILEMMA WE FACE,THIS IS ONLY OUR RECENT RECORDED HISTORY WE HAVE TO FALL BACK ON SO THE SIMPLE MATH TELLS US THAT SOMEHOW OUR SPECIES FELL AND BUMPED ITS HEAD AND WOKE UP SMARTER AND ONLY A COUPLE OF HUNDRED YEARS AGO.

If one cycle of destruction can cause over a period of two years ,consecutively interuppted global growing seasons.Then about three or four billion humans will starve to death in exactly two years.Our entire species would be sent into the dark ages except for pockets of extremely advanced humans that no longer have a global network of resources to rely on but nonetheless have incredible technological capabilities and the responsibility to rebuild our species to survivability levels to ensure continuation of the species.

BUT THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A GROUP OF HI-TECH SURVIVORS WAITING TO RE-TRAIN AND ENSURE OUR SPECIES SURVIVAL.

LogicalResponse you're right, but sadly there's no point in arguing with people on ATS. People on ATS Usually don't change their mind on anything. This site isn't here for spirited debts, its here to fuel paranoia. If you don't agree with some one they usually just say you're brain washed sheep and then they move on to a thread that shares there belief.