Re: Humanoid Aliens

Originally posted by SaviorComplex
reply to post by Malcram

 

Oh look at that, Malcram twisting words again. Not surprised. Never said that the methods used by a court were invalid.

I didn't say you did! I was making my own point, not 'twisting your words'. Others have claimed that witness testimony is invalid. My comments were to meant to point out that what you had said should not be taken by them as support of their claim that witness testimony was invalid. As it turns out, you appear to agree with me! And do you see a 'reply to SaviorComplex' tag n that post? Nope, and for good reason.

I think you need to start reading posts more carefully SC and check the attitude.

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Originally posted by Krahzeef

The greys if real (A lot of people have seen god, mary, buddha, loch ness monster etc), would probably try to ease us by looking somewhat similar.

Sorry to break the news to you, but Siddhartha Gautama, the founder of Buddhism, was a real historical figure of flesh and blood. Not so sure about "Nessie"

So, yes, he taught for about forty years and thousands of people saw him during his lifetime. Deny ignorance.

en.wikipedia.org...

I think what the OP fails to realize is that Science in many aspects is like a religion where you blindly believe on "data" as being truth/fact. There are many scientific beliefs that have been proven wrong with time. Not to mention corruption of those facts. Evolution by many is considered as Fact but as we ats ppl know there are many holes in that theory and there is more and more evidence that show possible outside-intervention on human origins and an occult real history. Same with man-made global warming.

What you need to realize is the possibility of an obvious connection between the "humanoid aliens" and us. Is there a God behinds all this? Fact is "we" can't prove yes or no and that in itself shows that there is a possibility.

Originally posted by Nichiren

Sorry to break the news to you, but Siddhartha Gautama, the founder of Buddhism, was a real historical figure of flesh and blood.

Except that...

but currently "scholars are increasingly reluctant to make unqualified claims about the historical facts of the Buddha's life and teachings."

(same source as above)

reply to post by LogicalResponse



What if human life begain from a distant world? What if human life has been present longer than previously accepted. What if we were genetically designed. Any of thses answers and including your could be the right one.

Originally posted by LogicalResponse
Why do UFO proponents, "contactees," "abductees" and other supporters always seem to depict their aliens as humanoid? Why are they insistent that these alleged life-forms follow the human body-plan?

My point is this: Considering the possibilities of life in the universe, how intelligent life developed on earth, and how the mechanism of evolution itself works - the idea of humanoid aliens is absurd

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I've learned that the initial question needs to be clarified in order to have a meaningful discussion.

You state that the idea of humanoid aliens is absurd? Are you really open to learn, or did you come here with a preconceived pseudo-scientific mind?

Given the vastness of the universe and the "wonder" of life to manifest I don't see why (arbitrary number) 2 million sentient beings shouldn't be of humanoid form?

All the best,

N

This galaxy, and universe is highly populated. Many planets that could not have had life developing on them are terraformed and used non-the-less. Even some astroids and barren planetary type things are hollowed and garden of edens formed inside.
Pretty interesting and wild stuff really. We're so shut off from the reality around us, from true advancement right now, by cartel/renegade leaders who are linked to bad ets and who wish to keep us as dumbed down, warring serfs controlled as much as possible by repressive and ugly regimes. Many of the ets are very highly organized and wish this to change. Ask for help. There is a critical mass that must be reached. Help will come in a positive manner if enough actually ask for it. Theres a really good thread on this by HiAliens:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

My advice is to ask nearly each night, and if you do so from not just a personal interest, but on behalf of this world and its people, and the very harsh dictatorial conditions children are living under, you may actually start to notice they will probably send you a sign, or more.
Critical mass in a world where few are free isn't a large percent. Ask for help.

This is actually urgent. There are many grey, nordics and other species that work together and very much wish to see changes here. However in this densely populated galaxy, millions of planets would be in our situation or a similar one, and we are co-consiparators, even in our democracies, voting in psychos. We need to get real and very fast. When we're asking for help, all of our thoughts and hearts are already mapped and known to them. They notice those who don't wish a single person to live in bad conditions, those who are cooperative, those who wish everything shared and advancements.
The humanoid ets that have been involved with my family since childhood are positive greys and nordics, and they work together and apart.

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Originally posted by SaviorComplex

Originally posted by Nichiren

Sorry to break the news to you, but Siddhartha Gautama, the founder of Buddhism, was a real historical figure of flesh and blood.

Except that...

but currently "scholars are increasingly reluctant to make unqualified claims about the historical facts of the Buddha's life and teachings."

(same source as above)

Let me try to translate it for you. The existence of the historical Buddha is not in question, what is referred to in your quote is the accuracy of certain historical events that might not be factual, but rather embellishments. Deny ignorance, please.

Originally posted by LogicalResponse

Originally posted by mystiq
I myself saw a grey at 4 or 5, and the modern depictions of them are pretty accurate, not to mention that they are humanoid. As are nordics. This seems to be the most common form at least in the kind of physical life forms that we're used to. I'm sure there are other types too, but not as commonly visiting us or contacting us.

There exists no tangible evidence that any of these sort of events even occurred. Only anecdotes, second-hand testimonies, and various stories.

Without evidence, there is no proof. Without proof, how can anyone even be expected to believe it's happening?

No proof. I sleep with an aluminum baseball bat under my bed to prevent Streiber type incidents. If these characters want in they can knock on the door like everyone else.

Irregardless of what you call proof, those who really have experienced these things will keep on telling you. Read up on it, though to be fair, theres a lot of muddled info put out by the most credentialled people. Look for grass roots accounts, for the best info, you know, from ordinary. Theres so much evidence out there however, and so many thousands upon thousands of experiencers, that you're actually hiding your head under a rock to say that. The crowned face on mars already defines description. Just the shape of one eye is so many thousands to one odds, but an entire face is trillions to one odds, there is so much proof. Proof that non-Nasa scientists and researchers already have brought out. Just open your eyes and ears. The official explanations are so incedulous, they rely and massive doses of flouride and MC to pull off.

Originally posted by Nichiren
Let me try to translate it for you. The existence of the historical Buddha is not in question, what is referred to in your quote is the accuracy of certain historical events that might not be factual, but rather embellishments.

No need to translate. The language was clear.

His entire existence is a matter of question. There are no written records of Buddha until 400 years after his death. He may have existed, but his historical existence is not an undisputed, conclusive historical fact like that of Alexander the Great or Xerxes.

Deny ignorance, please.

Also, if many thousands, or preferrably a few million, start to ask for help regularly, there will many many more individuals with testimony and enough "proofs" given to them. Just remember, its about asking for help for this planet and its children, not personal stuff, not personal rescues, not personally for advanced technology blueprints and such. Remember, advanced ets live in moneyless resource societies, cooperatively, a bit like the venus project but without elite management at the top. Though their politics is perhaps more interplanetary, with advanced psi, and telepathy so their babies don't even cry, but are talked to and soothed before they ask for their needs to be met. Asking for personal things is not whats meant here.

But you're living on a planet where the elite have pumped megatons of depleted uranium into the atmosphere and its globally bonded, and it will be destroying this planet soon enough. In addition they've destroyed the ecostructure, are messing with food supplies and enacting a system of worldwide slavery and MC, with entire pockets of people and children living in unbelievable harsh conditions, in starvation and poverty to transfer wealth into the hands of the few, while they distract their voters with toys in the developed nations. Ask for this world, and its children. We need help.

reply to post by SaviorComplex


Buddha's existence is not a matter of question. It is only the particulars of Buddha's life that are in question. The fact that there was a historical person called Buddha is not controversial.

reply to post by mystiq


Your avatar is beautiful and so is your message. People do not seem to realise today what their representatives are doing, and what they themselves are doing. They are destroying the ecosystems, poisoning the planet and causing havoc in the mass-consciousness of the planet. They do not realise just how terrible the future, and I don't even mean distant future, the near-future is going to be. They will only realise when the proverbial hits the fan so to speak, but then it will be too late.



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Originally posted by SaviorComplex

No need to translate. The language was clear.

Yes it was. There was not the slightest hint in that quote that the actual existence of Buddha was in question

His entire existence is a matter of question. There are no written records of Buddha until 400 years after his death. He may have existed, but his historical existence is not an undisputed, conclusive historical fact like that of Alexander the Great or Xerxes. Deny ignorance, please.

That's an interesting pretzel you've made. So you contend that Buddha may not have existed and this is shown by the fact that the records of his life were not written until 400 years after his death - the death of man you say may not have existed. So you reference the time of his death and measure how far from that time the records were written, in order to support the idea that he may not have existed at all. LOL Do you see the problem with this argument, besides the fact that this about the the third red herring you have introduced into this thread? (Before you introduce the fourth red herring and ask me to list them they are, Believers dismiss non-humanoid ET's, the Legal System is 'different" to Science, and Buddha may not be real).

Back to the topic.


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reply to post by Indigo_Child


Either way, we are far off topic here.

Originally posted by Nichiren

Sorry to break the news to you, but Siddhartha Gautama, the founder of Buddhism, was a real historical figure of flesh and blood. Not so sure about "Nessie"

Perhaps I should've been more specific, Mary was a real person too most likely. I was talking about recent sightings. Just because Elvis was a real person doesn't make the countless recent sightings of him fact.

Originally posted by Resinveins
Unless of course we're all somehow related?

That option is as likely as any other.... perhaps more so?

yes, if you listen to bob lazars interviews he states that he was briefed on the origins of these aliens and that we have been genetically engineered by them so the aliens being humanoid makes sense.

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Fair enough

N

Not in the least. In reality, this thread about humanoid aliens, looking for some kind of smoking gun proof, though there is so many proofs by so many people, and so many things revealed on the moon, on mars, and so many testimonies, you'd have to be pretty closed off in your thinking not to start to connect dots, even if you've never seen a craft in the skies. Talking about the state of the world, and the very conditions that exist, which is part of the reason that thought massive, smoking gun proof esists with leaders, they won't tell, isn't off topic in the least. All of these different things point to the same lying cartel.

Now, to sit around saying theres no proof, instead of investigating it yourself, doesn't make sense either. With so many dots to connect here, there should be enough questions raised in many peoples minds for them to go out, and ask ets for help, and ask for signs. The more that start to seek proof in a personal manner, the more will receieve. But unless they are willing to throw aside the non-interference, and non-massive contact laws that really are more crimes than laws, but that even so would necessitate a larger federation action that they just don't do because we keep be co-conspirators and voting these guys in, they are operating under stealth conditions, with the highest protocol, such as our highest black ops or spies operate. So unless the federations have decided on massive contact, the only way to know this is to 1) explore your own memories and dreams, esepecially do this if you've ever seen a ufo. They unstealth and only let some people see them usually. This means, if it wasn't a flyover of london or a city that you may be already on their program. So try and seek your memories.
2) go out, ask for help selflessly, for the world, and ask for a sign.

When theres an obvious conspiracy and people are seeking proofs, go and seek them actively. You may be fortunate enough find what you've sought.
Be your own reporter, go out and get the story. Ask for help from them.