The Antarctica deception!

just to catch up...everyone has seen this video, correct?

Why go into so much detail and not tell us what scared you

[edit on 3/31/2009 by Spiderj]

Originally posted by dkman222
"Gps was something we had heard as a possibillity and a sandpaper probably would have worked better. This was in -97 don´t forget that! "

So, the gas issue, and the fact that no human can serve -97 for 12hours let alone 5days leads me to think your story is nothing more then that, a story, interesting as most fiction is, but still fiction.

Not that I don't agree with your conclusions, but what he's talking about here is that it was 1997 and he didn't have a gps unit. Only a compass. Not that it was -97 degrees temperature.

Besides, everyone knows Antarctica is a lush green valley filled with all sorts of wonderful and exotic life. Apples the size of pumpkins, cherries as big as tomatoes; elves, fairies and unicorns roam the land free.

What is all this talk of snow and ice? Don't tell me you believe the lies the mass media has been spoon feeding you?

do we not all think its strange how the south pole is warped on google? all other areas that are warped are done so at the request of goverments to protect areas sensitive to spying?

maybe this is the case for the south pole?

interesting

I knew it, Highjump wasn't lies. Those Pesky Nazi's did survive and will give us WW3 afterall

reply to post by mproject


From what i remember these are 'spikes' where all the map images are joined together at the end.

Russia are holding military exercises with NATO countries to simulate a 'takeover' of key areas which contain oil.

And China are trying to control oil shipment along the Indian ocean. Its all about oil.

Originally posted by moonwilson
reply to post by coredrill

 

Not to be argumentative, but that station is made out of steel, wood, glass and aluminum. You can't use concrete in the Antarctic. You can't mix it, you can't pour it, and it can't harden properly. The only way you're going to have a concrete wall there is if you build a dome over it first. If the wall is a remnant of an ancient civilization, from when the Antarctic was warm, it's possible. But it would be buried beneath the snow.

That's the second time in this thread it's been said you can't pour concrete in the Arctic, as water would freeze before you could mix it.

Whatever happened to a human beings ability to think!

OK...you want to build a concrete wall, but it's too cold, right?

1) Build an insulated enclosure. For a 15 ft tall, 5 ft wide concrete wall, let's say our enclosure will be 20 ft tall and 7.5ft wide.

2) We simply apply a heat source inside the enclosure (whatever heat source is suitable, and deemed most efficient)

3) Now, our insulated enclosure can be brought up to a temperature which will allow concrete to be mixed and poured, despite the outside temperature.

4) Voila ! Wall built!

Easy.

spikey.

reply to post by spikey


Even better would be to use pre-cast concrete. The pieces could be manufactured on the mainland or inside. The fastest way to build a wall would probably be by piling H-beam and inserting pre-cast wall section in them.

This story is good fiction, the OP has a good way of keeping suspense. Probably bogus nonetheless.

reply to post by serenityone


I am confused!

From what base did you travel 20km north?

What do you mean "A person was standing 200 feet in the air" Was he standing on a watch tower or what? Could you see what was located within the wall?

Please give us more details.....

Originally posted by symmetricAvenger
bound to find interesting stuff there if anyplace, as its been like that for so long could even find temples n stuff form way back whenever!!

dunno if they would be crushed or destroyed but im guessing them things are intact or alteast bits of em are.. and for all we know they could have some ufo tpye stuff

you have watched WAYYYY to much Alien vs Predator

Originally posted by mproject
do we not all think its strange how the south pole is warped on google? all other areas that are warped are done so at the request of goverments to protect areas sensitive to spying?

maybe this is the case for the south pole?

interesting

The official story is that no satellite has access to polar imagery because it's "out of the camera's focus" but I doubt this true. Even if it is true, they certainly could place two satellites on "special orbit", one on each pole and give us something to look at. Why don't they? Whats a few million dollars more gonna do to our 10 trillion dollar deficit, especially considering that nasa wants to send people to a "dead" and "isolated" mars... And certainly every government would like to keep an eye on their scientists who are busy studing the ice, wouldn't they?

Has anyone else here read the book "At The Mountains of Madness?" It's by HP Lovecraft. That's all I've been able to think about through the entire reading of this thread.

Anyway, back to this story that was told about the we were told, what exactly was seen? Care to describe it? Also, if you were only allowed to be gone for one day, and you were gone for five, wouldn't there be some sort of disciplinary action?

So the Chinese want to put a base on Antartica, that's no big surprise.

reply to post by Kiltedninja


Maybe it was a Elder thing he saw ...

Edgar Allan Poe and Edgar Burrough also wrote novels that ressemble what the OP tells. Lovecraft wrote very good novels and essay. For those of you that didn't read it, you should. Most of his work are short story, very easy to read before bed !

Actually, I'd recommend that you don't read Lovecraft before bed, it's caused me some rather strange dreams.

But aside from that, I was thinking, Lovecraft's work has made me wonder, what aren't we seeing? And what could be hidden on our earth, much less on other planets?

I am very uneasy about whatever the Chinese do and I do not trust it.

Call it a gut feeling.

what utter UTTER TWADDLE - the OP is so full of crap it is dribbling out into his posts

the basic errors are mind numbing

arctic / antarctic navigation - he hasnt a clue [ gps was widely used in 1997 - as it avoids decination errors cpommon in magnetic compases - and is immune to visibility loss ]

antarctic logistics - 5 days on a snowmobile - ROFMLAO

base procedures - you dont just go off on a 5 day jaunt

hell he hasnt even bothered to look at a map - and see how far flung the bases he claims to have visited are apart -

lastly - he cannot even count - the dates he gives are for 7 months - not 6

truely pathetic

reply to post by ignorant_ape


Do you mind!?!

I bet you're one of those annoying people who sit in cinemas shouting out plot loopholes and criticising the special effects!



Some of us enjoy a good story. I'm still waiting to find out about the figure that was observing them!
I mean come on! You've been sat at the South Pole since the end of WWII, stood on sentry duty when 2 friendly looking Swede's drive up on their snowmobiles? Of course you're going to observe them. Apart from building a wall to stop the pesky penguins getting in, its the first bit of activity that's probably gone on since Hitler's arrival!
It makes me wonder why they weren't shot at by sniper rifles, or chased by strange alien craft that flew over the wall or attacked by mutant polar bears.
I'm actually looking forward to the next installment!

[edit on 31/3/09 by Daisy-Lola]

I have a question for everyone posting here....

Have you noticed you have asked the OP all kinds of questions..................

BUT have you ALSO NOTICED, the only times the OP posted were at the beginning, the OP has NEVER come back into the thread to defend or in any way else, discussed what his OP was about?

With that information - do you REALLY believe anything he said is the TRUTH?

Think about it....... if someone starts a thread and leads the reader down a path, but the path DEAD ENDS without any conclusion and leaves everyone left hanging. Doesn't that seem like a complete FALSEHOOD?

Once he refused to say what he saw.... but yet it was what his WHOLE thread was about.... what does that tell you?

It tells me, it was completely made up out of his mind. Otherwise he would have been back in this thread defending what his OP was about.

Which when you look at it, his OP was about NOTHING - because he gave us NOTHING as what "he saw".

We are all smarter than that, too many holes in his story, people asked him about, yet he has never felt the need to come back in and explain those holes. Go to his profile, look at his posts in this thread.... you will find there are no others, except his original pages........ what does that tell you?!

DENY IGNORANCE!!

edit for spelling

[edit on 31-3-2009 by questioningall]

Originally posted by questioningall
I have a question for everyone posting here....

BUT have you ALSO NOTICED, the only times the OP posted were at the beginning, the OP has NEVER come back into the thread to defend or in any way else, discussed what his OP was about?

With that information - do you REALLY believe anything he said is the TRUTH?

Well, I started a thread about people posting threads that they never reply back to. I was trying to make a point in the thread I started.

People have lives outside of ATS. Could it be the person who started this thread is busy doing something else for a while?

Not everyone, once they start a thread, can be here for 24 hours a day to answer questions.

While I do find the thread very interesting, it does seem to be fiction, and I do believe this should have actually been posted in the creative writing section. I don't think it should be in Ancient Civilizations or General Conspiracies.

For all we know, this person might be in trouble for posting the information they supposedly have on this site in Antartica. Who knows for sure? For you to assume that the post is just a lie, before getting answers is, well, in my opinion wrong.

If the original poster of this thread does not respond in say, 36 hours, well then you can call hooey on it, but give the person a chance!

You are expecting instant gratification in this, which in my opinion is wrong.
This person is from Sweden, and possibly, they might be having some issues in translating their story from their native toungue, and also in answering questions for the same reason.

reply to post by ignorant_ape


I have to agree with Ape here.

Since it became fully operational in 1993, GPS has become a widely used aid to navigation worldwide

Now being in the military, and especially considering you claim to be a sniper, GPS would have probably been standard issue.

en.wikipedia.org...

Also this

June 3rd 1997to january 5th 1998.

We were two guys contracted for doing maintenance and build a new sleeping quarters on the Finnish Wasa/Aboa station and the Swedish Svea station (Both Queen Maud land).

So you claim that you went down in the middle of winter, when the sea ice is the thickest, and every other contry in the world has no access due to sea ice? Riiiiight....

Also, the staff we have down there (Australian Bureau of Meteorology) are stcuk down there in winter, nobody leaves due to ice and bad weather. So I doubt you would have travelled down there during winter

Svea Station (Swedish summer station) 1987/1988

So you went down to Antartica, in the middle of winter, to fix a station that it is only open in the summer, and you drove out on a snow mobile for five days?

1. Nobody in their right mind would go out for five days on a snow mobile in Antartica.

2. Why would you be sent down to do repairs in winter when the entire continent is cloaked in darkness, and access is limited

Also you mentioned you were an officer in the army

I started off in the military when i was 19 and applyed to being an officer in the swedish military (The army) and placed myself as an officer in the reserve which means that I served for 13 years in total but had a total of 6 years in active service

But later went on to say

But in real life we served as Snipers trained to shoot at mines so yes in general we were pyrotechnichians who had lerned to shoot.To make 13 years a short story

So were you a sniper or just an officer? Im confused?

And I thought you only had 6 years of active duty....

And to those claiming Antarctica is not visible with satellite imagery, enjoy debunking this page

www.bom.gov.au...