Finally! A realistic plan to resist the NWO

As last here is a realistic plan to resist the NWO's federal fascist powergrab. This article is not only informative, it's also inspiring. A MUST read.

fourwinds10.com...

I like the plan, and it's good that the Sheriff has the power, but if we want to not only defeat the NWO, but also ensure a life of plenty for ALL humans, there are things that need to happen...

And that is the purpose of my book (linked in my sig) - to bring a way to fix things. Mainly, the ideas have to spread to the tipping point, and that is why I bring them up.

Maybe the Sheriffs can be informed. [smile]

Before you put all your eggs in one basket, may I suggest you read this first please? Those folks at the fourwinds are loonies at best, but you judge for yourself.
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NESARA Scam

NESARA is an acronym for the National Economic Stabilization and Recovery Act, which is a legislative proposal that merely reintroduces specie as alternative currencies to help combat anti-inflationary policies of the paper currency. The NESARA proposal is sponsored by the “NESARA Institute”, having offices at 7635 Jefferson Highway, No. 354, Baton Rouge, Louisiana 70809 (Ph: 864-886-0657). Although the NESARA proposal has been presented to many Congresspersons over the years, and some have expressed interest in the proposal, it hasn't yet built up sufficient support for even introduction to Committee, much less to a full vote by Congress. Maybe someday the NESARA proposal will find support in Congress and may be presented for a vote, but that really isn't the point of this webpage. (You can read all about NESARA at www.nesara.org). The point of this webpage is that when certain scam artists claim that NESARA has been "enacted into law" by "secret Acts of Congress" they are telling a great big lie and total fabrication because NESARA has never even been formally made into a Bill or presented for either a Committee vote or a full vote or Congress

Scam artists often latch on to something that sounds good to relieve suckers of money. For example, scam artists will often set up boiler-room phone solicitations to seek charitable donations for firemen or policemen, which the scam artists then pocket without actually giving any money to firemen or policemen. The making of charitable donations to firemen and policemen is a good thing, but the scam artists simply divert the donations to their own pockets.

The NESARA proposal is currently being used in just this sort of a scam. Some of the same people who helped keep alive the myth that Omega Trust & Trading would eventually pay out millions of dollars for every $100 sent to “trader” Clyde Hood (now convicted and serving a lengthy prison sentence), are now saying that Omega Trust & Trading and the other “original Prosperity Programs” will still pay out their millions/ billions/ trillions/ quadrillions of dollars when (not if) the “true NESARA law” is finally announced.

The scam artists pitching the NESARA scam claim that the “True NESARA Law” was already adopted by Congress in 2001, but that Congress has been keeping it a secret all this time (like anybody in Washington D.C. can really keep a secret about anything), and that soon the “True NESARA Law” will be announced. According to these scam artists, the “True NESARA Law” does the following:

All of the “Prosperity Programs” (failed HYIP and bank debenture scams) will fund, giving zillions of dollars to those smart enough to have invested in them and believed in them even after their promoters were convicted of fraud and went to prison.

Because the funding of the “Prosperity Programs” will swamp the Earth with wealth, nobody in any country will ever have to pay taxes again, which is nice.

Because the banks will have more money than they will know what to do with (because of deposits from those smart enough to invest in the “Prosperity Programs”), there will be “Debt Forgiveness” of all debts, i.e., home mortgage payments, car payments, credit card payments, whatever, which is also nice.

The scam artists have set up several websites “updating” NESARA and pitching the coming debt forgiveness and new money system. These websites make some of the wildest, bizarre, and downright gut-busting statements as to why the “True NESARA Law” has not yet been announced. For instance, at www.2012.com.au... NESARA_Update.html the scammers claim that on September 11, 2001,

" at 10 a.m. Eastern Daylight Time, Alan Greenspan, was scheduled to announce the new Treasury Bank system, DEBT FORGIVENESS for all U.S. citizens, and abolishment of the IRS as the first part of the public announcements of NESARA.

Instead, at just before and after 9 a.m. EDT, planes attacked the World Trade Center. The attack on the WTC served to stop the announcement of NESARA because a crucial banking computer center on the first and second floors of the WTC was prevented from carrying out a computer system download to U.S. banks which was scheduled to begin at 9 A.M. EDT."

This same website similarly claims that:

“For the last month in Orange County California, citizens have been receiving letters enabling them to have ALL their credit card debts forgiven and their mortgage debt taken off their shoulders. If their mortgage was taken out before 1997, it is totally "forgiven" and the DEED to the property will be mailed out to the owner. If the mortgage was taken out during 1997 or later, the mortgage bank is required to turn it into a "self-liquidating loan" which the BANKS are required to pay off on behalf of the citizens. Some lucky people in Orange County are receiving these benefits of NESARA which EVERY citizen in the United States is SUPPOSED to have ALREADY RECEIVED!”

Hmmm. So everybody in Orange County, California (about 4 million people) had all their debts forgiven but the rest of the nation didn’t hear about it? Wow, the power of the government to suppress information cannot be underestimated! For that matter, we here at Quatloos! are all in Orange County, but our debts weren’t forgiven. Hmmm.

But if you think all of that is strange, you haven’t heard anything yet. The primary scam artist goes by the name of "Dove of Oneness" or usually just “Dove” hosts a website called “The Four Winds” at www.fourwinds10.com... that spews a bunch of New Age hooey, such as “Lord Ari’s Galactic Tales”. Additionally, Dove has an “update line” that you can call at: (206) 781-3897 to hear the latest updates on the “True NESARA Law”. These updates, which are archived both on Dove’s website and ours (for posterity, of course) offer totally bizarre news events, such as that “100,000 Bankers who would not accept the True NESARA Law have been eliminated” and that the spaceships of the Galacticans are regularly seen visiting Washington D.C.

For those of you in law enforcement, Dove has listed her address for purposes of sending “donations” as:

Dove
3430 Pacific Ave. SE
Suite A6, Box 217
Olympia, Washington 98501

which apparently, in a course consistent with more sane scam artists, is simply a drop-box. Dove has conspired with a bunch of other scam artists/nuts

But others much less intelligent have allowed themselves to be drawn into this scam, as have some who have been mentioned as “White Knights” (whom the scammers claim are persons that protect the “True NESARA Law” and fight for it’s announcement) who probably aren’t even aware of NESARA. The nut category includes Sheldan Nidle, who gives updates from the Planetary Activation Organization, www.paoweb.com..., and writer David Icke, www.davidicke.com..., who claims that most important politicians and leaders are actually shape-shifting lizards from outer space, see www.davidicke.com... icke/ temp/ reptconn.html.

But as amazingly stupid as all this stuff is, it is still nothing more-or-less than a scam, and one that is at times simple to discern and at other times more complex.

The easy part of the scam is little more than a common “donations” scam. Dove and several of these nuts openly solicit “donations”, ostensibly to keep their phone lines on, etc. When they need more money, they will spin a bogus tale of somebody needed medical treatment or an operation, or about somebody’s house about to foreclosed, and invite their listeners to send them money. Then, they simply pocket the cash.

The most active of these scammers is Jennifer Lee who, again for our friends in law enforcement, lists her address for purposes of sending “donations” as:

8726 South Sepulveda, Apt. B-13
Los Angeles, California, 90045

Jennifer operates her own “update line” at (310) 842-5902, and daily (and sometimes three or four times per day) generates several minutes of airhead stream-of-consciousness, usually summarizing Dove’s updates or reciting the babble of several other scam artists who have come on board. These scam artists have amusing names, such as “A and A”, the “King of Swords”, and our personal favorite, “The Nameless Ones”.

Usually, towards the end of her message, Jennifer will spin a sob story about not being able to pay the rent, or pay her phone bill, or pay her electricity bill, or whatever else comes to mind, and about once a week she asks for money to “help” somebody else out. The Galacticans must sure be cheap if they themselves can’t help ‘ol Jennifer out with the phone bill!

From this relatively simple scam comes the more complex stuff. Dove and other scam artists will from time-to-time either offer themselves or direct their listeners to their shills who continue to sell units in one or another of the “Prosperity Programs”. Believe-it-or-not, people actually send money to these idiots to buy units in programs that have proven to be totally fraudulent, and where the original promoters (such as Omega’s Clyde Hood) are serving long prison terms. Ah, the stupid and their money shall soon be parted . . .

Some of Dove’s function is just to keep the scam victims quiet and thinking that eventually they will receive their money. Before Clyde and the other Omega fraudsters were indicted, Dove was strident in remarks aimed at keeping the sheep in line for sheering. Although we’re not sure, Dove’s voice seems eerily familiar to that of “Mumbles”, who ran a scam called Destiny that was supposed to “fund” at the same time as Omega. People actually sent “Mumbles” $100 bills wrapped in aluminum, without getting receipts, and then listened to bizarre messages predicting imminent funding on a voice machine traced to Texas. Again, the stupid and their money are soon parted . . .

This scam also has, in addition to the weird New Age aspects, an extremist left-wing bent. Hardly a week goes by that Dove doesn’t call for or predict the arrest of Bush, Cheney, et al., and at times Dove’s messages have seemed to be an open invitation for some nut to take unilateral action and attempt to assassinate them so that the “Prosperity Programs” can finally fund.

More information on other these and other looney-tunes is on our Omega Chronicles page, at www.quatloos.com... cm-omega/ omega-chronicals.htm

One of our Quatloos! readers recently sent an e-mail to Dove crony “Patrick Bellringer” and received the following reply:

I am a newcomer to Nesara and I am very happy to know that it may soon become a reality. However, as I have read many of the articles and thought about many aspects of the law and its implementation, I have a few questions. Perhaps you can answer some of them.

1. Since this is apparently so secret, how is it that you seems to have so much access to what is going on?

1) KOS (King of Swords) The White Knight in charge of all White Knights communicates truth to select individuals for release to the public. A few other "insiders" are doing the same.

2. If higher souls and masters, such as St. Germain and Sananda are helping run things, why push for it to perhaps be announced before things are ready?

2) Admiral Sananda, who is in charge of Earth Shan's transition, gave the order weeks ago to the White Knights to announce NESARA. Things are ready!

3. I do find it difficult to believe that so many people could keep this thing a secret. Washington is particularly not noted for keeping secrets.

3) Secrecy under threat of death. Some have broken their silence and are now deaded!

4. I am in retailing and when I look at the people I deal with every day, when I think of Nesara being passed, I see chaos and confusion. When people are told that their dollars have decreased in number( but not value), that prices are being cut and they no longer will have taxes withheld,they are going to have more to deal with than many of them are capable of handling. Add to that that the administration and congress will resign and I can see riots and paranoia being rampant.

4) When prices and salaries are reduced by the same ratio--buying power remains the same. People are not ignorant. They will be relieved to have no debt, no income tax, and no evil government. Where are you at? Things will move forward in an orderly fashion. We White Knights are not stupid!

5. Dove talks about these prosperity programs. Was one of them the Omega Trust? I came across a reference to it somewhere and there was a person named Dove apparently involved in that. Where can I find more info on these programs?

5) Why do you want to know about Omega? It is closed to new people and held confidential. You will have your opportunity to participate in a prosperity program---later.

6. I love many of the ideas that Nesara puts forth, but one of the things I keep hearing in many of the articles is When do I get MY money? It seems that many of the current have-nots want to become "haves". If this is the motivation, I predict disaster for the whole thing.

6) People are anxious to get their funds to get on with their lives and their humanitarian projects. I have waited ten years, and I am angry. Those with greed will get nothing.

7. I e-mailed one of the national radio websites about Nesara and they said they had not found any documentation that it was real. The 10 ways Dove lists to prove that Nesara is real (www.fourwinds10.com... NESARA/ history/ dove101702.html) are a joke as far as I'm concerned. How many people do you know that are bank presidents or member of the German legislature?

7) If you think that Dove's list of 10 ways to prove NESARA is a joke---then I consider you to be most ignorant and quite lazy. With that attitude you deserve no part of NESARA. It is obvious that you have had no part in it, thus far.

As funny as all this is, what is even funnier is that Dove and Jennifer constantly imploring their listeners to send postcards to the U.S. Supreme Court demanding announcement of the “True NESARA Law”, and to write “NESARA Now!” when you send in your utility bills, postcards for magazine subscriptions, etc. We can only image the poor mail room clerk at Pacific Bell getting a bunch of phone bills with “NESARA Now!” written on them and wondering just what in the hell NESARA is . . .

The extreme left-wing agenda of Dove seems strangely similar to that of the "Communist Party USA" found at www.cpusa.org... It will be recalled that "debt forgiveness" was a common theme of both Lenin's and Castro's communist takeovers. It certainly wouldn't surprise us if later Dove is found to be fronting for some fringe communist or socialist party.

I agree that it's not the whole answer but it's a good start. I also recently learned at during the War of Independence, only 3% of the population actively supported the revolution or took up arms. That may not sound like a lot but 3% of 300 million is 9 million people which is ten to twenty times larger than the US military and works out to an average of 180,000 per state.

reply to post by Studenofhistory
More fourwinds info.
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Dove creates bogus NESARA websites
After the (real) NESARA creators in Louisiana began dispelling rumors that Dove and the associated loonies had anything to do with NESARA and issued the press releases set forth above, Dove then created several knock-off websites that to proclaim the "true" NESARA law, i.e., NESARA plus Dove's garbage. These bogus NESARA websites are:

www.2012.com.au... NESARA_Update.html -- The information about NESARA is buried deep in this spacey New Age cult website full of the pyramid-power type nonsense that we thought went out with mood rings and disco, check out the main page at www.2012.com.au... for the wild & wacky. Read up on NESARA and Galactic History according to Mother Sekmet too!

www.petitiononline.com... nes911/ petition.html -- "We, the undersigned, demand the announcement and implementation of the U.S. Law passed "Constitutionally" in secret by Congress in March of 2000, approved by Congress on September 9, 2001, and again passed in November, 2001," pretty much says it all. Does ANYBODY think that all 500+ members of Congress are capable of keeping a secret? Any secret?

oneflynangel.com... nesarabill.html -- Another NESARA variant, with Dove's e-mail address, that "discourages renting" of homes (apparently Dove was having trouble meeting the rent check that month).

members.tripod.com... white_knights911/ history.htm -- The "history" of the "true" NESARA law promising "debt forgiveness" for everyone. A priceless Dove work, plays to distressed farmers who lost their farms in the 1980s

principalityofcamside.cc... Government/ USA/ NESARA/ NesaraIndex 200207.htm -- Another bogus website discussing the "conspiracy" to keep NESARA secret. Sponsored by the non-existent Principalities of Caledonia and Camside.

www.rangeguide.net... nesara.htm - This page claims that on November 11, 2001, all of the people in Orange County, California, had all of their debts forgiven by NESARA. Quite amazing that 3 million people could have all their debts forgiven and were able to keep it a secret.

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Who is Dove?

reply to post by Studenofhistory
This is dove.
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www.fourwinds10.com...
Site Name: The Four Winds

Site Description: A huge main website containing:

1) A News and Information section of over 10,000 articles covering 125 separate topics that is updated weekly.

2) All the published Phoenix Journals (115) including the ten Phoenix Journals banned by the U.S. Courts, which contain much secret scientific information,

3) Basic NESARA information, related news and updates.


Fourwinds, also, has a sister site (Phoenix Archives) which contains a complete archive of the Phoenix Journals, Contact Newspapers (1993-99) Phoenix Liberator (1991-93), and Phoenix Journals Express (1990-1991).

Category: All Categories


www.nesara.us

Site Name: Dove Of Oneness NESARA site

Site Description: A NESARA site dedicated only to NESARA information. Now hosts the Dove Reports and is the new home of Dove of Oneness. Has postings of Dove Reports, NESARA interviews, Voice Reports, Flyers, History and more. Headquarters for the NESARA Take Action Teams.

Sounds nice, but I hope it isn't some anarchist movement.

It also makes me wonder about "Civil Rights" legislation.

reply to post by vcwxvwligen
The bunch from the fourwinds have been run out of seattle wash, and oregon and other various places for conducting their scams of fleecing people for donations. I have followed their antics for about 12 years now and it's always the same thing. When the "nesara" debtforgivenes law doesn't get passed, they jump right in and give all sorts of explanations as to how and why the illuminati blocked their efforts, and then cry out for their supporters not to give and keep sending in those donations.

I have to admit that I've been skeptical of the Nesera claims especially some of the stuff that Casper talks about where trillions of dollars are shuffled around the world or just around various US banks willy-nilly. Millions sure. Billions maybe but trillions? Nope. Electronic bank transfers are always confirmed by the physical transfer of cold, hard currency. In the normal course of events, banks only transfer the net difference between what bank A owes bank B and vice versa so with millions of $ moving each way daily, the net amount transferred in cash may only be in the hundreds of thousands. The entire monetary base of the US money supply is only roughly 1.5 trillion. Even if every single dollar in every bank were electronically transferred all at once, it would still be a far cry from the tens or hundreds of trillions that Casper and Chris Story talk about.

That having been said, there are a LOT of links to articles on the fourwinds site and many of them seem to be legitimate in the sense that they're not asking for money, nor are they supporting the Nesera nonsense.

reply to post by Studenofhistory
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's usualkly a duck isn't it? Here's a good case in point. I know you more than likely know the Shriners don't ya????? Well, we know about all the good work they do now right? Well, they, along with their affiliates the royal order of jestors got caught running prostitution rings and tax fraud and embezzlement. So, you just draw your own conclusions for I just supply the info I know to be accurate. I never try to come across as inflammatory or incendiary on purpose, but the facts seem to do that for themselves.

I hear what you're saying. My point is that some of the links on Fourwinds.com are to articles, sites and videos created by people who have legitimate information, insights or ideas and are not part of the NESERA scam