Vatican Supports Excommunication For ALL Involved with 9 yr Girl Abortion Carrying Twins! Unbelievab

The Vatican supports the mother, doctors who aborted twins from the rape of 9 yr old. Rapist? part of Church - NOT excommunicated! The words of outrage - I am not able to express exactly what I think, otherwise I would get banned - by putting what I want to say in this post!

The doctors said a 9 year old could NOT carry twins, she would in all probablity DIE from the pregnancy! But the Catholic Church is NOT happy that the twins were aborted, so they have excommunicated everyone involved with the abortion, except for the child "she is too young"! Side note: a Child is "too young to be excommunicated, but Old enough to have twins"!!!!!! Does that make sense to anyone?

link to article:
news.bbc.co.uk...

A senior Vatican cleric has defended the excommunication in Brazil of the mother and doctors of a young girl who had an abortion with their help.

The nine-year-old had conceived twins after alleged abuse by her stepfather.

Cardinal Giovanni Battista Re told Italian paper La Stampa that the twins "had the right to live" and attacks on Brazil's Catholic Church were unfair.

It comes a day after Brazil's president criticised the Brazilian archbishop who excommunicated the people involved.

Cardinal Re, who heads the Roman Catholic Church's Congregation for Bishops and the Pontifical Commission for Latin America,
Cardinal Giovanni Battista Re
"It is a sad case but the real problem is that the twins conceived were two innocent persons, who had the right to live and could not be eliminated," he said.


The doctors did what had to be done: save the life of a girl of nine years old," he said.

I thought I had heard of everything before, this is just plain sickening! How could a church even CONSIDER excommunicating people over SAVING the life of a 9 year old!

here is link about the pope - involvment and the fact the stepfather who raped the child and the child's 14 yr old handicapped sister - has NOT been excommunicated from the church!

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Why has the world stopped making sense?

This really shouldn't surprise you. When I first heard this story, I expected this to be the outcome.

The Church will not excommunicate the rapist (and will not fire the priests who diddle little boys) but will go after the people who didn't do what the Church told them to do.

In their world, it makes perfect sense.

In reality, it makes all of us shake our heads in dismay and fight back nausea.

Originally posted by questioningall
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That's to a different story. Those are actually involving the pope (and stupid things he's done) and the official vatican position on things.

However, the vile excommunication of all those involved in this story about the 9 year old is NOT an official vatican position. One of the outspoken cardinals who works at the Vatican is making a statement that he supports it. But that doesn't make it an official Vatican position.

The headline of this thread is wrong.

Eventually the Vatican might say something, and then if they side with the excommunication you are free to blast them from here to the moon - and with my blessing. But for now .. there is no truth to the statement 'Vatican supports excommunication .... '

Well, since the world does not revolve around the Vatican, those people will be better off with no ties to it - IMO.

Faith comes from within and not some organized religion - IMO - and those people will get on with life perfectly fine without their ties to the Vatican.

If I were them, I would scream loudly - "$#%^ YOU I quit" before the Vatican gets the upper hand. I find it almost laughable when the Vatican screams "you will be excommunicated". But I guess that is the rebel in me. Unfortunately, too many people are way to dependent on that organization and maybe feel their life will end if they leave it or get kicked out.

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I know I put in a "related" link, also I used the basic headline of the BBC story "Vatican Supports".

It also says "senior Vatican", then the related story also has the "pope" blessings of excommunication, due to "senior vatican".

So the headline is not made up, nor states anything - that is not stated in the article.

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I'm not getting down on YOU.
I'm just saying that the Vatican has issued no official stand on this.

This pope has been doing a lot of things that I consider to be really stupid and some that are even against Catholic teaching (like going to a muslim mosque in Turkey and bowing to Mecca).

I wouldn't be surprised that if at some point in the near future I can add support of excommunication in this case to the list of dumb pope moves on his part. But it hasn't happened yet ...

Why is excommunication a threat? These people arent very close to god if they think god needs a wink from some flesh and bone man to get on his good side. How pitiful and weak that would make god.

While it is very sad that the church is involed on any level more than comfort of the family members traumatized by this, it shows a stunning example of how poitics and religion don't mix at all. But not to worry, there is a special place in hell reserved for someone who would do harm to an innocent child. (the pitch fork comes in handy)

Try not to get too upset by this as heartburn will only hurt you.

What is sickening (besides the fact this happened) - the fact the Church would rather have an innocent child's life risked than having babies aborted - which would most likely die anyway.

I just find this too horrible to even comprehend the Church's standing on this issue. I don't understand it.... and I never will!