We need a North American Union, and a common currency!!

Originally posted by ANNED
I have no problem with a north american union made up of the US and Canada.

I have a BIG problem with adding Mexico and there corrupt government.
there Drug cartels and there crime problems

I would rather add japan and call it the North Pacific Union.

With Japan Canada and the US we would have something equal to the EU.

Maybe even add the UK.

[edit on 16-3-2009 by ANNED]

reply to post by ANNED


And what exactly make you think that the other countries would want to join yours?

Sorry to blow some bubbles here but USA is not so desirable anymore, so to speak, which country in his right mind would like to share such a huge debt, bailouts, millions of junkies with their insatiable demand for drugs, overpriced real state, over payed workforce, and on and on...

I say NO goddamn it!! I do not want the expansion of government. How dare Bush be such a coward as to do this behind close doors. The hell with the NAU. It is not good for trade, it is not good for citizens of all three countries for various reasons, and it is horrible for the liberties of everyone.

NAU.. Then what?? Whats next??

Well theres a NAU and an EU, then maybe Asian Union or African Union then eventually a NWO, NEW WORLD ORDER.

no gangster mob in the world should have a monopoly on violence, especially one as violent as the US

wow
your just beggin for new world order huh?

Originally posted by jayvance1
wow
your just beggin for new world order huh?

Where are we headed anyway? Consider the state of our schools now days? This is our future you know!

Scenario 1:

Jack goes quail hunting before school and then pulls into the school parking lot with his shotgun in his truck's gun rack.

1985 - Vice Principal comes over, looks at Jack's shotgun, goes to his car and gets his shotgun to show Jack.

2009 - School goes into lock down, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers.

Scenario 2:

Johnny and Mark get into a fist fight after school..

1985 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies.

2009 - Police called and SWAT team arrives, they arrest both Johnny and Mark. They are both charged them with assault and both expelled even though Johnny started it.

Scenario 3:

Jeffrey will not be still in class, he disrupts other students.

1985 - Jeffrey sent to the Principal's office and given a good paddling by the Principal. He then returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class again.

2009 - Jeffrey is given huge doses of Ritalin. He becomes a zombie. He is then tested for ADD. The school gets extra money from the state because Jeffrey has a disability.

Scenario 4:

Billy breaks a window in his neighbor's car and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt.


1985 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college and becomes a successful businessman.

2009 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy is removed to foster care and joins a gang. The state psychologist is then told by Billy's sister that she remembers being abused herself, and their dad goes to prison. Billy's mom has an affair with the psychologist.

Scenario 5:

Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school.

1985 - Mark shares his aspirin with the Principal out on the smoking dock.

2009 - The police are called and Mark is expelled from school for drug violations. His car is then searched for drugs and weapons.

Scenario 6:

Pedro fails high school English.

1985 - Pedro goes to summer school, passes English and goes to college.

2009 - Pedro's cause is taken up by state. Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that teaching English as a requirement for graduation is racist. The ACLU files class action lawsuit against the state school system and Pedro's English teacher. English is then banned from core curriculum. Pedro is given his diploma anyway but ends up mowing lawns for a living because he cannot speak English.

Scenario 7:

Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from the Fourth of July, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle and blows up an ant hill.

1985 – Most of the Ants die.

2009 – The ATF, Homeland Security and the FBI are all called. Johnny is charged with domestic terrorism. The FBI investigates his parents, and all siblings are removed from their home and all computers are confiscated. Johnny's dad is placed on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again.

Scenario 8:

Johnny falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee. He is found crying by his teacher, Mary. Mary hugs him to comfort him.

1985 - In a short time, Johnny feels better and goes on playing.

2009 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces 3 years in State Prison. Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy.

[edit on 17-3-2009 by Donkey_Dean]

Whether people want to believe it or not, the Security and Prosperity Partnership is already laying he groundwork for the eventual annexation of the three NA nations under some form of NAU banner. Canada, US and Mexico have already signed agreements that allow troops from any of the three countries to patrol anywhere in NA in the event of 'catasrophe', which is broadly defined.

One more false flag, or a complete unravelling of the economy, which are both likely at this point, is all it will take.

I agree with neo, the groundwork is already laid out. All tptb are waiting for is the right time to drop it on us. Look around you. The Constitution is being circumvented at every chance. The NAFTA Superhighway people make reference to? Just look at I-35. You can take it from Mexico to Canada. Right in the middle is Kansas City, which I believe has a staging area or port for loads to and thru the US to our northern and southern borders.( I am a truck driver, so I will look up the exact buildings and what not. Maybe some of my fellow drivers know what I mean) The eradication of the economy is paramount in this as they want the US to fail to a point. Me? Oh heck no!! Get it together, live the way we are supposed to, ya know. I mean it wasn't perfect in 1773, its not today by any means. But jeez, when you have states ready to leave the Union? Maybe thats it. 37 or so states become their own 'countries', then we get our NAU. Thats the only way I go along with it.

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I don't see what they'd have a problem with, it'd be almost like gaining more territory, since America will obviously have to be head honcho in any union anyway. So, I don't really think our forefathers would care much.

reply to post by Donkey_Dean


ROFL
Awesome post, so true.
This is exactly why i don't think i could handle having kids, not the children, but the bureaucracy.

Are you a CFR plant? I mean huh?

You want to erase the borders with Mexico? Let their problems spill into our country unabated?

Give up what little sovereign freedom we have left?

How about we reinvigorate the USA as a manufacturing base? We have the resources to produce whatever we need here in the US without involving China at all...

No NAU!

Liberty or Death!

Originally posted by Donkey_Dean

Originally posted by jayvance1
wow
your just beggin for new world order huh?

Where are we headed anyway? Consider the state of our schools now days? This is our future you know!

Scenario 1:

Jack goes quail hunting before school and then pulls into the school parking lot with his shotgun in his truck's gun rack.

1985 - Vice Principal comes over, looks at Jack's shotgun, goes to his car and gets his shotgun to show Jack.

2009 - School goes into lock down, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers.

Scenario 2:

Johnny and Mark get into a fist fight after school..

1985 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies.

2009 - Police called and SWAT team arrives, they arrest both Johnny and Mark. They are both charged them with assault and both expelled even though Johnny started it.

Scenario 3:

Jeffrey will not be still in class, he disrupts other students.

1985 - Jeffrey sent to the Principal's office and given a good paddling by the Principal. He then returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class again.

2009 - Jeffrey is given huge doses of Ritalin. He becomes a zombie. He is then tested for ADD. The school gets extra money from the state because Jeffrey has a disability.

Scenario 4:

Billy breaks a window in his neighbor's car and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt.


1985 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college and becomes a successful businessman.

2009 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy is removed to foster care and joins a gang. The state psychologist is then told by Billy's sister that she remembers being abused herself, and their dad goes to prison. Billy's mom has an affair with the psychologist.

Scenario 5:

Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school.

1985 - Mark shares his aspirin with the Principal out on the smoking dock.

2009 - The police are called and Mark is expelled from school for drug violations. His car is then searched for drugs and weapons.

Scenario 6:

Pedro fails high school English.

1985 - Pedro goes to summer school, passes English and goes to college.

2009 - Pedro's cause is taken up by state. Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that teaching English as a requirement for graduation is racist. The ACLU files class action lawsuit against the state school system and Pedro's English teacher. English is then banned from core curriculum. Pedro is given his diploma anyway but ends up mowing lawns for a living because he cannot speak English.

Scenario 7:

Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from the Fourth of July, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle and blows up an ant hill.

1985 – Most of the Ants die.

2009 – The ATF, Homeland Security and the FBI are all called. Johnny is charged with domestic terrorism. The FBI investigates his parents, and all siblings are removed from their home and all computers are confiscated. Johnny's dad is placed on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again.

Scenario 8:

Johnny falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee. He is found crying by his teacher, Mary. Mary hugs him to comfort him.

1985 - In a short time, Johnny feels better and goes on playing.

2009 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces 3 years in State Prison. Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy.

[edit on 17-3-2009 by Donkey_Dean]

Well said!!!!!, the nanny state gone into overdrive, has anyone else noticed how violent young people have become since their parents were forbidden from chastising them.


But, i don't think the US need fear NAU, won't ye be calling the shots or rather your leaders will. Chose them wisely

I'm thinking the OP's that want a socialist country are more then likely down and out,living in a slum somewhere,little to no education,and when and if it does happen,they will be the 1st to whine and squeal about it,hell no I'm not going for it,I'd rather die with my dignity

Originally posted by Oldtimer2
I'm thinking the OP's that want a socialist country are more then likely down and out,living in a slum somewhere,little to no education,and when and if it does happen,they will be the 1st to whine and squeal about it,hell no I'm not going for it,I'd rather die with my dignity

If the dollar collapses, who has the most to lose? Why would you imagine that I live in a slum?

My closest neighbor is about 7 miles away.

I’m not rich but have not had to work in 5 years as our internet activities have more than supported us. I am a shareware author. We have 0 debt “Utility bills only” 2 houses, one in town, another out here and 60 acres to boot. Is that poor? I’m not rich but I certainly don’t feel poor and think that minus the millions I live a very rich lifestyle. I do at times neglect the chores, the place can get a little trashy looking but it’s not a slum.


[edit on 19-3-2009 by Donkey_Dean]

[edit on 19-3-2009 by Donkey_Dean]