Is the Economic Meltdown all there is to it?

The conspiracy theorist in me has been nudging my speculation nerve along the lines of how vast and all encompassing this "expose`" of greed, stupidity, corruption is/has been in such a short period of time (from November to February) that I wonder if we aren't possibly being "desensitized" for some REALLY BAD NEWS.

I know that sounds nuts and it probably is but...

When in our history has the bad news ever been allowed to be dumped, in such a completely and uncontrolled/un-spun way upon not only the American people but the rest of the world as well?

I am certain that the real time speed with which the internet provides news and allows the "crowd" to report/comment on it above and beyond the corporate controlled media has had lots to do with this apparent data dump of epic proportions, I can't seem to convince myself that's all there is to it.

To think the damage control systems, spin doctors and flat out bullshatters have been rendered utterly mute is a dream I am struggling to believe has come true.

Is there something truly society altering in the background? Is there something so "Earth Shattering" that has yet to be revealed, but can not be hidden for much longer that the PTB are allowing this constant barrage of horrid news about economic meltdown, corruption, greed and stupidity to go unspun and unchecked so that when the "real bomb" falls it won't seem as bad because we've been hammered for four months already?

Yes, this is WAY OUT THERE, yes this is probably the lamest theory you've heard in a long time and yes I am probably grasping at straws that don't even exist... BUT, damn, what if?

Moving on to things most likely much closer to reality...

I am confident when we come out of this economic meltdown we will be in a brave new business world, which, if it removes the disgusting greed and waste is fine by me, a different business world than we've ever seen before.

Huge companies are trimming, no slashing overhead. While removing the fat and the dead wood is always a good move, lots of excellent people are getting laid off as well which leaves our companies exposed to global competition without the entire first string team on the field.

I guess since I am going to be 46 in May I have a different perspective now than I had back in 2001 when our mini meltdown happened. I see lots of fine, young, ethical people who are just starting out getting the axe and wondering what the hell they are supposed to do that they haven't done?

They got the education, they stuck with it all the way through, endured the interview process and finally landed the job they spent those four years busting arse in college for only to get laid off two or three years into it.

I am hopeful it will spawn a whole new generation of entrepreneurs and small business people. I am very biased about my love for "self starters" since I've never been able to consider, much less actually go get, a "real job" and have always built my own businesses...

America and the rest of the "Free World" countries have always done their best when the small business people were allowed to spread their wings and build the companies, technologies, services and products that lead the way to the next wave of progress IMHO.

I also believe that when the "security" of a big corporate job is exposed as no security at all, it's a real motivator for those who have the gumption to step up to the plate and take their shot at doing what they believe is the best for themselves, their families and their industry/business...

It's usually when people are no longer saddled with the direction and expectations of a boss, who may or may not be clued up, or a company that is only focused on satisfying its shareholders at all costs that new ideas, new technologies, new ways of doing things emerge.

Driven the motivation to "never get laid off again" many people have started new companies, they pinched and scraped every penny, they spent every waking hour nurturing their new baby, they worked harder than they ever have in their lives but felt great, not tired and beaten down.

It's amazing what building something you can actually BELIEVE IN can do for the spirit. It's wonderful to wake up in the morning looking forward to the days work instead of dreading having to deal with a moronic boss who is actually in control of your future.

The best is when you can find a couple other people who share your vision, have the brains, ability and desire to build it with you, that's when us mere humans can do truly great things IMHO.

Look at where APPLE Computers (as an example) started and where they are now, look at Google, Cisco, and yes even Microsoft. All of these game changing companies were started by people who refused to be "laid off again" or simply didn't buy into the status quo of corporate America at the time.

These self starters were joined by others who shared their vision and passion and the rest as they say is history...

Assuming and definitely HOPING my initial speculation in this post is totally wrong I am hopeful that this economic nightmare will motivate millions of ethical, smart and willing people to step up to the plate and take their shot.

Springer...

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I don't think you are being unrealistic at all. I think a lot of people have the feeling of waiting for the other shoe to drop. It's getting so bad, that I don't think I'm alone in waking up each morning wondering what else will be thrown our way.

When you talk about young people being laid off just a few years into their careers, I hear you as I have some children that fit into that category. Unfortunately, starting a new business will be difficult since any extra money they have, goes to paying off enormous student loans. Luckily they are young, and hopefully will get ahead some day to be able to go into business for themselves.

The people I feel for the most however, are the ones that have been with companies for years, and whom are being laid off just a few months short of being able to collect a pension. This is now also happening with much frequency we don't hear about in the media.

It's the apocalypse. Not the real thing, which if ever happens would likely be terminal and unannounced, but the false apocalypse. The massive memetic manipulation, the great fear, the attempt to scare people out of their wits so the priest cast can reseed a global religion.

This is my hunch for all this. It's all fear based, and fear is the eons old trick of the priest cast. They are being hurt by secularism, science (not the academic kind, but the method which is widespread), by raising standards of living and the proliferation of culture, through books and now, up the exponential, through the internet. Realizing there is no more space for them in a modern world of free humans, they use all their power and influence to reset humanity into fear.

I think at the top of the pyramid we will find materialists. Left brain thinkers. They will be the priests, the bankers, the kings, the oligarchs, the generals. And they will try everything to consolidate powers. That is what evil is imo, a loss of connection to nature through our right brain, a loss of intuition, of connection to our higher intelligences, to synchronicity, to good, good, gooood vibrations, as the song goes.

Whatever is to come I will garantee one thing Mr Springer: It will be a lie. The world is ruled, manipulated would be more exact, by psychopaths, sociopaths, pathological liars, and they are incapable of disclosure or a sincere warning. All they know is lies and manipulations. And that is all we will get.

You see, nothing has really changed, it's always been like this. It's just us, the good people of the world, that have become way harder to herd back into the pen, to get our minds back into the box. And desperate times (for the manipulators) require desperate measures (onto the manipulated).

Enjoy the apocalypse dude, it's going to be quite a show. One last word of advice would be: Plant your own popcorn

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Well,Springer if you mean that the current economic meltdown is completely manufactured then I think you are on to something collapses like this just don't happen overnight this may very well be financial terrorism it was a self inflicted wound designed to further enslave us.

The wealth that hemorrhaged from the economy, drawn as by vampires to sustain a lifestyle born of avarice, left the world in a weakened state. I think what we see is what there is, but the sight so far is ugly with a chance that things could get uglier.

Originally posted by Springer
They got the education, they stuck with it all the way through, endured the interview process and finally landed the job they spent those four years busting arse in college for only to get laid off two or three years into it.

I do feel sorry for those who "did it right", grasped the brass ring only to see it torn from their hands. This is cruel mockery of the admonition that the way forward is by education.
But, if by education we mean rote recitations and test bubbles correctly filled in, then perhaps we will only graduate good employees who are told what to do, rather than graduates with a creative passion to add to the world around them.

In the 1980's I watched as business and industry went leaner and meaner. Perhaps this diet has made for unhealthy anorexia today, and the cure will be small business and entrepreneurship.

We reached our western boundaries generations ago. So today, I would give the advice, not to "Go West, young man (or woman)", but to "Go green, young people, go green." Oh, and help other countries go green. It just could be what truly saves you, us, and the planet.

I see this as well. I dearly hope this could bring a new era, when everybody realizes how much we value as an individual, with our skills and intellect to make things way beyond being a simple drone, out of millions of other drones.
Revive the crafts, de-centralize the workforce, make a self-sustained community and those greedy bastards won't be able to destroy our will and mind as they do now. I think we need to stop this consumist era, and go back to the roots of society, being in touch with ourselves and nature (I'm not talking green only here, nature is the Universe, our minds, everything).
I dread, however, an economic meltdown because I know for a fact that people ain't like the old days. A lot of people today don't even know how to cook, how are they going to go on not being able to depend on big companies that provide every one of their needs? They never developed their true potential, and in times of terminal crisis, the most resourceful people will carry on. And there are not many of them today.