FEMA concentration camps...don't think so...

Originally posted by verbal_assassin
Dude, those locations can serve as a dual purpose facility... It more likely empty at the moment and ready to be filled with domestic terrorists.

Faced with the fact that the majority of these "facilities" are currently privately owned, in disrepair, or no longer in existence: How is this list of potential camps legitimate and its dessemination justified if the PTB could do it in any city on a whim?

[edit on 6-3-2009 by beaverg]

OK so the US allegedly has or doesn't have these concentration centres and when martial is imposed people will be moved there so that a close eye can be kept on them etc.

Why the US?

I don't hear about such things in the UK or France or Germany (post WWII) or Spain or other Western nations.

Why is it just the US that will be "detained"? You lot are not THAT special

reply to post by m1kel


Hard to believe anyone could be so blind. I am finding that blindness is a choice that many prefer, the truth will scare the hell out of you and destroy your fabricated dream worlds. Pull your head out of your a** or have it riped out in the very near future. Your choice.

I am just copying and pasting what I wrote on a simular thread about this":

Some people on here need to slow down and chill and stop thinking EVERYTHING is a conspiracy. They are not calling them "detention" centers, because guess what? That's not what they are. Could they be used for that eventually? Yes, of course. but the fact is they are being built for emergencies which is what FEMA is in charge of. And if a lot of you had your home and everything you owned destroyed by a disaster and no where to go, guess what? You'd be the first knocking on one of these "detention" center doors since that's where you are going to find food, shelter, etc. so that you can continue to live.
I work in EMS and I think it's about time they started making these centers as natural disasters are on the rise and all of you out there should already know about the current sun cycle we are in as well as the scary fact that we "may" be headed toward another pole shift soon, and the possible chance that this may all happen when we go through the galactic rift of the milky way around 2012 give or take a few or more years. Maybe nothing at all will happen, but look at the weather and how it is acting.
Anyway, I am someone that does not rely on and does not trust the government at all, but everyone here on ATS needs to chill, slow down and rationally think things about what they hear and what is going on before claiming it's for the worse.
Realize that FEMA, the military, and other groups also have people in them like YOU that believe a lot of the things here on ATS and that not everyone in FEMA or the military or whatever is all on the same page as the "one's at the top" running things.
I am also an ex soldier by the way and if i was still in the army and was given orders to shoot any of you as american citizens, guess what? i WOULD'NT do it. And i would have to say that at least 80% of the guys in my platoon (when i was active service) would not follow orders like that either. We would NOT shoot you. We'd make up our OWN minds as to what is right and wrong, just like you do.
Chill out, slow down and go about all the things we are seeing happen in a calm , thought out manner so that you can make intelligent choices and think clearly before screaming that something is the way it is when it might not just be...

reply to post by verbal_assassin


Well DUDE thats good by me because non existant means it's dual purpose is still non existant.

mikell

Being in the UK it should make little difference to my childrens' way of life, however we often see the repeat of US policy / mindset over here, and with all this talk of "Globalisation" it's fair to be concerned about what's happening behind closed door's over the pond.

Do FEMA's camps already exist? In my opinion no, I feel many places outlined as potential camps can be 'debunked' and those that cannot may be merely temporary 'holding' facilities for movement to / between the real camps.

As for trailers and those "plastic coffins" (which remind me of larger storage boxes we would find in most homes) which have been manufactured for a reason; sure, they'll waste your tax dollars on unnecessary construction / maintenance projects to ensure year-on-year budgets are maintained, but would they purposely manufacture specific products which weren't to be used? Highly doubtful... these have a purpose, but what remains to be seen.

Will FEMA camps exist? I believe so, yes. And if the bill being discussed in this thread: www.abovetopsecret.com... has anything to do with it, sooner than you think.

The most telling portion, to me, quoting this bill HR645:

(c) Location of National Emergency Centers- There shall be established not fewer than one national emergency center in each of the following areas:

(1) The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Regions I, II, and III.
(2) The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Region IV.
(3) The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Regions V and VII.
(4) The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Region VI.
(5) The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Regions VIII and X.
(6) The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Region IX.

OK so I didn't know the FEMA regions, so here they are:
www.fema.gov...
So these 'Super Camps' I'm going to call them are being located to cover the entire US.

Not fewer than one (most likely central) in each area.

Big question... when have zones I, II, III, V, VIII and maybe X ever had a major displacement event occur. I'm attributing hurricane's, tornadoes and earthquakes to the remainder of area's which may reasonable require large shelter facilities, and would like to hear of any other disasters in the area's I've outlined as relatively safe zones.

Even so, it is deemed that camps of the same magnitude are to be erected in all of these zones. What their purpose will serve is unknown and we can only speculate from natural disaster (galactic alignment prophecy fulfillment?) through to terrorist or false flag nuclear, chemical warfare, and even mass mind control martial law implementation and population control... who knows?

The point is that what we do know is that they are likely preparing for a mass displacement event, and this bill confirms this.

I hope to never see these super camps in operation within my lifetime... though I fear I will...

Hopefully, some food for thought which may seed the resistance and/or disclosure of what's to come....



[edit on 6-3-2009 by Pr0t0]

Originally posted by antimatter21

Originally posted by m1kel
My friend, Im with you on this.


Theres a difference between killing a couple thousand people in secret, and killing millions in concentration camps with the world watching. Our soldiers wouldnt stand and watch either.

What makes you think that? The world has watched us kill millions, thousands even on our own soil covered up as an outside attack but obviously an inside one. Soldiers follow orders, thats what they are trained/brainwashed to do. If the "to server and protect" force can turn on us, then what makes you think the soldiers won't? Wake up from the American dream pal, this is reality.

Did you just write the world has watched us kill millions on our own soil? What?? Please enlighten me on this. Even killing millions in another country? When was this, last time I checked it was in WWII... Maybe you need a math tutor? Ill be willing to help. And yeah soldiers are trained to follow orders. But if you think they'll follow orders while watching their families being dragged into camps and being slaughtered, your sadly mistaken. Please, stop hiding under a rock and go out more.


Gregonow, I totally agree with you, nice post.

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Unlike others I DO check links and yours is funny!!! number 1: Glenn Beck is mentioning camps-NOT CONCENTRATION camp-I didn't hear that did you? (DON'T FORGET IT'S ALL ABOUT RATINGS-pique interest and we all get absorbed) and number 2: The article is someones words!! Like I've repeated here...find The List-(why do I hear twilight zone music EVERY time I type that?-lol) look and see what local one is closest to you and CHECK IT OUT for yourself!! As most of the people who have checked in physical person-you will see that most of these "bases" are privately owned property now...retirement communities, recreation parks etc...just use YOUR OWN MIND-Not everything on the "net" is fact!! Big ole Enquirer is what I call the internet... YOUTUBE -not fact-idiots actually...and WIKI...-don't make me laugh!!! YOU HAVE A MIND...investigate yourself and USE IT!!!!

As the OP of the thread I would like to clarify a few things...No one is saying that FEMA camps do not exist. They do exist!! They are FEDERAL EMERGENCY shelters for the need of situations like NEW ORLEANS!!! The "LIST" that is being referred to in this thread is not the HR645 list...it is the lists that are showing up on blogs, websites and pages that people are making up to create fear amongst yourselves. Should Fema camps exist? Well, of course!! How easily we forget the screaming everyone did after Katrina...a military facility only MAKES SENSE because of the CONSTRUCTION and preparedness of these facilities to handle an influx of people. Now, that said...just type into google "state lists of Fema camps" and see for YOURSELF how many sites are listed and bogus claims that are being made in YOUR OWN BACKYARD. When I saw a location in MY OWN AREA being called a FEMA CONCENTRATION CAMP-I truly got nervous...ok, downright scared. So I decided to check it out myself. It was the only "right" thing to do to alleviate MY OWN FEAR...what I found surprised and astounded me. This is not about the official list of HR645 or whether they exist-it's all about the garbage that is being posted to scare people-just as it did me-use your own mind people-just don't get so caught up in what is posted on the net...YOU DECIDE your own fears and whether they are well-founded or does the fear exist because of someones blog or webpage? Truly-only YOU can decide for yourself.
There have been some mighty good calm posts here and I've enjoyed everyones thoughts. Thank-you.
To anyone reading from The Louisianna territory-I as an AMERICAN am TRULY SORRY WE FAILED YOU.....

This FEMA thing is a joke. The logistical nightmare of confining large segments of the population is not easy. Getting a population to vote in a talking flim-flam man and then worship his shoes as he transfers wealth from public to private hands is a better way. Why imprison people when you can get them to build their own.

Citibank preferred stock was brought by Obama (his underling) at 3.50 at the tax payers expense; price now? 75 cents. Wow, the American public sure made a fortune on that.

The Banks made a killing. The entire united states is becoming a FEMA camp. Rows of huts with guards is so 20th century. Get with the times.

reply to post by kyred

I am in Louisville, KY. To my surprise(not really) one was listed in my city. Ok, so it was vague...US naval ordnance plant, in the southside of the city. So, upon googling, I discovered the supposed fema camp is right next to our airport, and it is now called Raytheon Missile Systems!! I had no idea this company was in my city.

I plan to take a cruise out there to Raytheon, or as close as possible, to snap some pictures to add to this thread. I think it is a great idea for anyone who can, drive to your local "fema camp" and post pictures!

Heres the google map of Louisville's fema camp: it is B:

maps.google.com...:en-USfficial&sa=N&tab=wl&um =1


I have no idea if our govt is supposedly planning Rex84, fema concentration camps, etc. But I do know that as individuals, when we come across these "fema camp lists", especially the more fear mongering sites lists, we can go grab a camera and go check it out! This is really the only way to get this topic under control, to start posting more than lists, but hard evidence, even if it merely a photo of the supposed site.

reply to post by rockhndr
Thank you for posting this thread. I saw on one of the list on the internet that Eaker Air Force base was supposed to be getting prepared to be a Fema camp. Eaker was closed in '94 during the same cutbacks that got Loring.
According to the list, there were armed guards, and new wooden barracks were being built. Like you, I decided to check it out for myself. The housing area on base is now Westminster Retirement Village. There is an aircraft engine maintainence and repair company. The local humane shelter is there. The local gun club has, I am told, and excellent range. I'm going to get in touch with them. I might want to join.
The runways are still there, and once in a great while the airforce will ask permission to use them for touch and go landings.
There are no new barracks being built, and the ones that are there are falling into disrepair. There was not an armed guard in sight.
I've posted this in several threads about Fema, but for a site whose slogan is "Deny Ignorance," they don't want to believe the truth when it slaps them in the face.
A Fema camp near here would be reassuring to us who sit right on top of the New Madrid fault line. It would also reassure a lot of people who, like me, live in tornado alley.

S&F OP.

Funnily enough the NWO only applies to the US.

FEMA forgot about us Aussies...or will they imprison our whole island nation?


LMAO....... I think not...

they would have to nuke us first..

Oi Oi Oi






Mungo

Originally posted by Wideawake08
As far as I am concerned this article proves nothing and is a waste of space.
Sorry, I have seen enough documentaries, videos, read enough articles, heard enough guests on shows to know that something is not right with our government. AFTER 911 all is possible.
Just because you post a blog about your opinion, it doesn't negate what I have seen, heard and read.

As you put it in your own words, its the OP's Opinion, the OP isnt trying to prove anything, dont call something a waste of space if you dont even understand it.

reply to post by Concept X


Thank-you very much concept and WELCOME to ATS!!!! Please enjoy your stay with us here...This thread was only to get people to start investigating ON THEIR OWN and not rely on what others post all the time...once again...have fun here!!

FEMA camps....
The program started for very different reasons. However let us look at today. The King riots of LA, the up rise in violence due to economic reasons and etc. You need large holding places if such happens. However there is much more to this. Do you remember in 1992 on NBC it was stated that in 20 years the first S & L case would go to trail? But there is more. If one is to spend as this nation is doing today we would be more than broke by 2019 if not sooner. Note what happens is they paint themselves in to a corner then it becomes what is fair (not what is just) You can tax only so much I am sure you understand so you have *confiscation*. So looking at there plans is it crazy to have a home in some far off place called common sense. As the USA would be ground zero for hell. So I hope you enjoy the spend, spend, spend. It is new trains free everything as how else do you end up with the ablution of all privet property?

The place on the list that is near me is a water treatment plant (Carrollton, TX) I have driven past this place twice a day for years.

This place is completely unsuitable to serve as any kind of "camp". For one, there is not enough land for many people. And, the available land that is there is a buffer zone. Water treatment plants STINK, and the land is to dissipate the stink before it gets to the populated areas.

Also, the grass is muddy year round, and the mud stinks. Years ago I worked for the parks department and when we would mow/weed-eat we were required to wear rubber galoshes, rubber gloves, and a face veil. That can't be good for you.

There is a guard shack, but there is never anyone in there. My guess is that it is only manned during shift change when the gates are open.

This location can be ruled out.

Also the bill H.R. 645 has not been passed and is stuck in committee.

I don't understand why people are getting so worked up about this. All you have to do is apply logic.

The camps aren't there to detain the population of the United States. If so, why are there so many? Why are they scattered all over the place? If you're going to detain a sub-sect of the populace, you wouldn't do it in so many places; that's a logistical nightmare. If you're going to single-out a group or two, you would build a few internment camps (like in WWII).

The camps are there to assist in disaster recovery. If a large, natural disaster hit, would you like all the now-refugees coming and living on your city streets? Do you want this new group of homeless people drifting around your towns? Of course not. The purpose of the FEMA camps is to provide these people with a place to stay temporarily that does not upset the local populace.

Example: Say Florida is hit by a massive hurricane and all its survivors find themselves now homeless, where are they going to go? They're displaced now, aren't they? They would go to the nearest FEMA camps open (assuming the whole state was hit, they would go to Georgia and Alabama). Now, because they're in the camps, they're isolated from the local residents of the states they're now in. Local business and life is not disrupted, because the affected people have a place to go.

The reason that there are so many camps spread out across the nation is, you can't predict where a disaster will strike. And if the number of camps across the country can hold roughly the population of the country, I would say that all bases are covered.

Since the people have focused places they can go, the government and charitable organizations can concentrate on taking care of the peoples' needs while the rebuilding process is underway (although I heard the government made a real mess of this with Katrina).

Besides, what would the United States be without its people? What would any nation be without its people? A country cannot prosper without a people who are willing to work. Not much would get done to benefit the nation and some alleged "ruling elite" if we were all unwillingly enslaved.

reply to post by NeutralGuard


Are you telling us our government is psychic and knows there is going to be a disaster which will hit the whole of the USA ?

That people will be displaced ?

If your theory is right, then why have the public not been forewarned ?

Or if you are telling me its in case of a single disaster then why was one not used after Katrina ?





[edit on 19-5-2009 by Stevie55]

reply to post by Stevie55


You need to reread what I typed. I stated that no one can predict where a disaster is going to strike. As such, there have to be stations all across the country in case an emergency arises.