When people talk about saving the Tiger from extinction, is this 'hatred' against lions?

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According to the United Nations Long-Range World Population Projections, people of European descent, who not so long ago formed around 35% of the world's population, now constitute about 8%. This percentage is projected to fall to about 2% some time this century. All of this actually makes a mockery of the fad in the last few decades of middle-class white couples choosing not to have children for the sake of the over-populated Earth. The figures speak for themselves. White populations are not even producing enough children to keep their numbers stable - whilst at the same time, all of the other races are growing at rates that will soon eclipse the whites - even in our 'own' countries. Very soon, unless something changes, the white peoples of the world will be extinct - that is a fact. Some people shriek with horror when they hear arguments such as these and call them 'White Supremacy'. This makes it sound as if we want to conquer the other races and rule the world. Well, look at the figures again and you will see that it is more a question of 'White Survival' than 'White Supremacy'. It is nothing to do with hating other races or hurting or killing people because their skin is the wrong color. When people talk about saving the Tiger from extinction, is this 'hatred' against lions?

We are at a time when, due to any hyperbolic growing process, tremendous changes are brought in sight in a very short laps of time.

Realize what's occuring is the least we can do.
But I think that we should think to manage in a better way than we do, this turning point.

Beginning by stopping this mindillness which shuts the voices of those who fight against the silent death of the White Race.

- Aknowledgement of our errors is a prerequisit.

Those errors were essentially induced by the foolish materialistic greed, this indecent and amoral pursue of richness and power that we call nowadays capitalism (in every aspect of it), and by a biaised and inconsistant religious faith, turning a message of love into a horrible war on "infidels".

It has lead cultured ans smart and beautifull people to behave like savages among the whole world and among ourselves.
We could have been the light and the honey of this world. We behaved like the scum of it.

- We can to day save the world and ourselves if we agree to be fully what we ought to be : the light and the honey of this planet.

Refusing this duty will lead the whole world - including ourselves - to it's end.

I find your post a little hard to understand, but I am wondering if perhaps you confused ATS with KKK...? They both have three letters, but as you can see, the letters are totally different.

(Oh, and before you go on a rant and accuse me of wanting to get rid of the "white race"... I am Norwegian. I am as white and blonde as they get.)

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Maybe you have the chance - as I do - to live in a retired little town of you magnificient country.
There, it's obvious that the problem I'm speaking of doesn't clearly show.

But I used to live in a big city, and there, the only thing that we can say is that statistics are right.

Do you feel to be "at home" when 90% of the children in a classroom are black or arabic ?

Do you feel "at home" when wandering in a street, it's much more like if you were in Algiers or Istanbul or Dakar ?

You are using the easy argument of "KKK" or any Politically Correct ("PC") argument.
But please, zioggystar, realize that YOU are becoming a minority in your OWN country, or town, or school, etc ...
What endangers YOU is NOT the "KKK" (by the way, we aren't in the USA, as I am also an European).
What endangers YOU is going willingly into a fatal path were there is NO WAY BACK.

Ask your parents if they recognize your country as they knew it.

Ask yourself wether you honestly think that tomorrow will be better than to-day, in your own country, in your own village, in your own school.

When people talk about saving the Tiger from extinction, is this 'hatred' against lions?

Well no actually its got nothing to do with it.
The Tiger is more sought after for superstitious herbal remedies than the Lion.
This was ok when there was only a few million people.
But 1 billion Chinese wanting Tiger parts = no more Tigers.

reply to post by BorgHoffen


I try to send a message of hope.

One billion chinese people are bound to fall into the tyranny of greed and search of profit - at the expense of richer than them (so far) and at the expense of their and our ecology.

So the case of billions of Indians, Indonesians, coreans, etc ...

WE are the post-capitalistic folks.

Their intent is to follow our own past path, which has prooved to be wrong, and you know that Earth (GAIA) won't allow it.

WHO, in your opinion, will save GAIA ?

WHO will show the way towards a more sustanable way of living, but those who are today TOO rich ?

The world is very different for my parents now, you are right. There was, among other things, no Internet when they were young. But hey, Internet is a cool thing, don't you think? Here we sit and talk to each other from different parts of the globe! I live in Oslo by the way, not the biggest city in the world, but still the capitol of Norway.

Yes the world is evolving and changing in every way. People cross boarders, the populations of different countries are getting more mixed. People from different cultures and races meet, fall in love and have children. Nothing can stop or reverse that. No point fighting against it. Things will never get back to the way they were. Yes, my kids go to school with and know people from India, Pakistan, Somalia and Iran. Not a problem. Perhaps one of my kids will marry someone from India? Perhaps I will one day have a grandchild with different skin color than mine? It would not be a disaster in any way, I can assure you.

Here is a thought, instead of thinking of people as "blacks", "pakistanian" and so on, why not try to think of them as just.... hm, lets see.... people? You know, human beings?

And who knows, the world might be a better place if all races in the end blend and mix into one. One less thing to hate each other for and fight about, perhaps.

Wtf is GAYA?
I dunno wtf your on about.
Im talking about the thread title about Tigers becoming extinct.

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It has always striken me : the very same persons who would struggle in order to save the biological diversity, wish to blend the human races into some BEIGE race.

This is inconsistant and ignores a main psychological strain of the human beeings : they WANT to know their ROOTS, and when they blend, it's always (formally or inconciously) EITHER to bring towards them the other, OR to JOIN the other.
A brutal fact that you should know, is that blended men are far more racists than "pure" ones, because they try by any mean to CONFIRM their allegiance to one or other side from which they come.
Peacefull being is the privilege of the non-blended one.
Trust me : I know what I'm speaking of.

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GAIA is the very ancient name of our EARTH, considered as a living being.

Originally posted by orkson

It has always striken me : the very same persons who would struggle in order to save the biological diversity, wish to blend the human races into some BEIGE race.

"Beige" sounds really boring. I think it would perhaps be a shade of brown. But who knows, really? There are so many beautiful skin colors around the world.

Anyway, good luck with your wish to turn the clock around and reverse the world a hundred years or so. You are certainly going to need it.

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Borghffen,
"GAIA" is the very ancient name of EARTH, considered as a living being.
Ancient civilizations thought that when something harmful is made to Earth, our mother-earth ressents that like a wound.

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The Gaia Hypothesis

An ecological hypothesis proposing that the biosphere and the physical components of the Earth (atmosphere, cryosphere, hydrosphere and lithosphere) are closely integrated to form a complex interacting system that maintains the climatic and biogeochemical conditions on Earth in a preferred homeostasis. Originally proposed by James Lovelock as the earth feedback hypothesis,[1] it was named—at the suggestion of his neighbor William Golding—the Gaia Hypothesis, after the Greek supreme goddess of Earth.[2] The hypothesis is frequently described as viewing the Earth as a single organism. Lovelock and other supporters of the idea now regard it as a scientific theory, not merely a hypothesis, since they believe it has passed predictive tests.[3]

Mankind has some duties to our Mother-Earth.
Millions of years were necessary to fulfill this incredible task : bringing forth all these marvelous DIFFERENT races of man.
And you think that this should finish into a single general melting pot ?
There's LAZZINESS of mind in such thinking.
Try to find to WHOM this is supposed to profit.

I find it amusing that people worry about that kind of thing, while you know , dividing the human colors as if they were different species , which they are not.

Until you realize that (and take a few classes in genetics...) , you will probably be worried a lot. My forefathers were black , but I am as white as I can be.

Genetic variation is possible , it is also part of evolution of mankind and many other species.


Humans are humans , the rest is just an illusion.

reply to post by Roufas


Mixing sub-races is NOT genetic variation.
Telling that men are a same specie is not a scoop.

You know, one of the first decision HAITI made when blacks conquered the power, was to decide
-1) which criters defined the belonging to the black race.
-2) that only black men were entitled to own property.

For the definition of "black" people, it's interesting to know what black revolutionaries in the US think of it :

panafricannews.blogspot.com...

The type of government I am talking about will have to be created by a ruling party dedicated to socialism and the end of exploitation of man by man. However, in the reality of the United States which suffers from economic exploitation and racism, the vanguard force of revolutionary change will be black people and my definition of black people are all nonwhites, including Indians, Mexicans, Puerto Ricans, people of the Orient. You might call them third world, but I think that is a mistake, for they are black people and suffer from the same essence of racism and exploitation by white America that all the African people suffer from. It would be the mistake of the highest order for those of us who are black and who are from African to fail to consider in our perspective that Puerto Ricans, Mexicans, Indians and Orientals are not black. They certainly are not white.

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You know what? Maybe, just maybe... instead of banning threads about illicit drugs and the conspiracies that surround them, could the powers that be please put an end to all this "white is right" crap?

Really puts a smear on ATS and all it stands for.

Threads like this push the ignorance level to the extreme.