Are Muslims The New Jews?

I was wondering today as i watched a very anti-muslim film if muslims are the new jews. By this i mean the jews in Germany before Hitler started killing them. Now Hitler killed many other people not just jews but jews were one of the bigger groups he went after.

The hatred started years before Hitler killed them. It was a slow ramp up of the general populous designed to get them in the right mindset so they would not only accept it but willingly go along with it. Jewish children in schools were treated terribly and other children wouldn't play with them out of fear of being associated with their religion.

Looking at modern society i see exact, mirror image stuff going on with Muslims. Now don't get me wrong, extremists have damaged the name of Islam however there are peaceful Muslims and yet this seems to be forgotten. It just seems like we're being indoctrinated to hate these people. The difference here is that it is a hatred bred in many countries, including a great swath of Europe.

Is this an attempt to incite a massive war? A war the likes of which we have never seen? I'm just slightly suspicious of the entire thing. Are the extreme Muslims going to be used to utterly taint the entire religion and incite people against them?

Before every great war, the invading country always tries to paint the other country/group/race/religion in a dehumanizing manner to help its citizens justify the invading country's atrocities.

For example, look at how the Japanese were presented in media during WWII, or communist Russia, or the Vietnamese.

Sorry to be a grammar/spelling nazi, but I just tune out whenever I read a phrase such as "the general populous." "Populous" is an adjective, meaning "well populated" or "having a large population."

The word you are looking for is the noun "populace."

No the Muslims are not the new Jews. No the Muslims will not be exterminated. No, the Muslims will not exterminate us either. We will all bump heads until things settle down to a level of intolerance that everyone can tolerate.

The new Jews are the smokers as any smoker in the Western World will tell you.

Originally posted by ImaginaryReality1984
Are the extreme Muslims going to be used to utterly taint the entire religion and incite people against them?

After watching documentaries like 'Undercover Mosque' and reading Times articles which indicate that over 'fifty' percent of British mosques are now under hardline control you may have a point.

The more decent,peace loving muslims that openly criticise,condemn and denounce the words and actions of this growing number of delusional deobandi and wahhabi fanatics the better.

If anything these radical muslims are acting like the new Nazis,not the new jews.

'Undercover mosque' documentary:
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A Dispatches reporter attends mosques run by organisations whose public faces are presented as moderate and finds preachers condemning integration into British society, condemning democracy and praising the Taliban for killing British soldiers…

Dispatches has investigated a number of mosques run by high profile national organisations that claim to be dedicated to moderation and dialogue with other faiths. But an undercover reporter joined worshippers to find a message of religious bigotry and extremism being preached.

He captures chilling sermons in which Saudi-trained preachers proclaim the supremacy of Islam, preach hatred for non-Muslims and for Muslims who do not follow their extreme beliefs - and predict a coming jihad. "An army of Muslims will arise," announces one preacher. Another preacher said British Muslims must "dismantle" British democracy - they must "live like a state within a state" until they are "strong enough to take over."

The investigation reveals Saudi Arabian universities are recruiting young Western Muslims to train them in their extreme theology, then sending them back to the West to spread the word. And the Dispatches reporter discovers that British Muslims can ask for fatwas, religious rulings, direct from the top religious leader in Saudi Arabia, the Grand Mufti.

Saudi-trained preachers are also promoted in DVDs and books on sale at religious centres and sermons broadcast on websites. These publications and webcasts disseminate beliefs about women such as: "Allah has created the woman deficient, her intellect is incomplete", and girls: "By the age of 10 if she doesn’t wear hijab, we hit her," and there’s an extreme hostility towards homosexuals.

British broadsheet newspaper The Times:
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Almost half of Britain’s mosques are under the control of a hardline Islamic sect whose leading preacher loathes Western values and has called on Muslims to “shed blood” for Allah, an investigation by The Times has found.

Riyadh ul Haq, who supports armed jihad and preaches contempt for Jews, Christians and Hindus, is in line to become the spiritual leader of the Deobandi sect in Britain. The ultra-conservative movement, which gave birth to the Taleban in Afghanistan, now runs more than 600 of Britain’s 1,350 mosques, according to a police report seen by The Times.

Seventeen of Britain’s 26 Islamic seminaries are run by Deobandis and they produce 80 per cent of home-trained Muslim clerics. Many had their studies funded by local education authority grants. The sect, which has significant representation on the Muslim Council of Britain, is at its strongest in the towns and cities of the Midlands and northern England.

Figures supplied to The Times by the Lancashire Council of Mosques reveal that 59 of the 75 mosques in five towns – Blackburn, Bolton, Preston, Oldham and Burnley – are Deobandi-run.

A commentator on religious radicalism in Pakistan, where Deobandis wield significant political influence, told The Times that “blind ignorance” on the part of the Government in Britain had allowed the Deobandis to become the dominant voice of Islam in Britain’s mosques.

Khaled Ahmed said: “The UK has been ruined by the puritanism of the Deobandis. You’ve allowed the takeover of the mosques. You can’t run multiculturalism like that, because that’s a way of destroying yourself. In Britain, the Deobandi message has become even more extreme than it is in Pakistan. It’s mind-boggling.”

[edit on 02/10/08 by karl 12]

Originally posted by ipsedixit
No the Muslims are not the new Jews. No the Muslims will not be exterminated. No, the Muslims will not exterminate us either. We will all bump heads until things settle down to a level of intolerance that everyone can tolerate.

The new Jews are the smokers as any smoker in the Western World will tell you.

Oh come on, no one is going to kill smokers en mass. They are killing themselves so who would bother?

reply to post by ImaginaryReality1984

It's the encroaching GreenFascist Nazi-style regulations that smack of anti-Jewish persecution. Smokers are already being isolated and herded and regulated. The worst of it is the barrage of anti-smoking propaganda, the second hand smoke peril, the fear mongering. As far as I'm concerned, it is the thin edge of the Nazi wedge.

Up here in Toronto, the flatulent butt of the neo-nazi nanny state movement, smokers are hemmed in but unbowed.