Originally posted by BluegrassRevolutionary
You know, I would agree with you except for one thing, Obama has only been president for 2 WEEKS. Good god man, give him a chance.
Hey now, I voted for Obama and i've been supporting him ever since it became very clear that Ron Paul wasn't going to get the nomination on the
Republican side. I understand that he has only been President for 2 weeks which is why i'm not going to criticize the policies he has yet to enact.
For the most part, those are policies I happen to support, at least for the next four years. BUT what I don't have to give him a pass/chance on is
the fact that they've been planning their cabinet positions and other positions and such now for months, MONTHS! And to expect that people aren't
going to get on him for some of these picks (tax scandals galore) is kind of unrealistic in my opinion. It won't define his Presidency, but we
shouldn't just ignore it. These picks are Obama's judgement and we should take that seriously, shouldn't we?
Originally posted by BluegrassRevolutionary
Bush will be remembered as an absolute disgrace of a president and comparing the liberal response to his presidency over the last eight embarrassing
years to the conservative response to Obama's first two weeks in office is a joke.
It's not a joke at all. The simple fact of the matter is that the same people who tore Bush down, legitimately or otherwise, are defending Obama
without being the least bit critical and I think we should always be critical of our leaders. Nobody is saying that Obama's picks who skirted their
taxes is comparable to rushing us into an unjust war in Iraq, but just because they're not to be compared doesn't mean Obama's decisions with
regard to who he wants to put forth are inarguable, does it?
Originally posted by audas
I take it by Libertarian you mean the correct sense of Anarchist.
Libertarians believe in minimum federal government, Anarchists believe in a total lack of government or general order. Libertarians believe in a
stronger state government, with communities held together by neighborhood groups, churches, etc. Anarchists believe in a total lack of government or,
again, general order.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Most people know that I now support Obama. And it seems that because of that, they have a perception that I am not critical of him. They assume a
blind loyalty, even though I disagree with him and criticize his decisions here.
I have this exact problem where I work. Because I came out and defended Obama during the election, I have been pegged as the uber-liberal in a sea of
conservatives which is completely ridiculous since I am ideally for small federal government. BUT they don't want to listen, I think they feel better
thinking that i'm over here just blindly supporting Obama like they've done with Bush all these years. I guess if it helps them sleep at night...
Originally posted by ConservativeJack
face it, Obama is really a huge dissapointment so far and he is looking a bit overmatched and simply put out of his league.
Hillary probably would have been the better true "leader".
This is where i'll come in with the obligatory "he has only been in office two weeks," which isn't long enough to be a "really huge
disappointment." What has he done that warrants a huge disappointment? He hasn't had time to do much of anything, certainly not enough for that kind
of a label. Let's wait to see which of his policies work and which don't before we start making decisions on his performance. Before we see if those
policies work, however, we have to wait for them to even get passed! You're really jumping the gun, Jack.
As a sidenote, i'd say that Obama is up against a set of challenges unlike any i've seen a President face. I wish him the best of luck. I think his
bail out plan is a mistake, and I find it interesting that his "green initiative" was initially going to create 2 Million jobs, but now it is either
going to "create or save 2 Million jobs." I don't know how they're going to measure jobs that his policies save, but I think that's a lot more
fuzzy than job creation.
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