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Originally posted by CameronFox
do you know where the evacuation point was? Perhaps NOT evacuating the Pentagon saved her life.
Originally posted by TrueAmerican
She says they had drills so often at the Pentagon they were literally annoying. But on 911: No alarms, no nothing. And had they evacuated when that plane was 50 miles out, she wouldn't be in the mess she is in now, and neither would her son.
Originally posted by TrueAmerican
I believe her because:
A) she was there
B) she had the clearance
C) she would not cave in to corrupt pressure when she knew what they were trying to push on her was not what she had seen
D) She held out for as long as she could on the money issue, but in her situation with medical bills out the roof and no one to help- I can't say I blame her at that point.
E) She petitioned congress and nothing
F) I have a better gut feeling about her truthfulness than any of yours. I am sorry, but I do.
Originally posted by pinch
Gut feeling? Well that answers it. Let's base all our decisions on this event on "gut feelings".
Originally posted by TrueAmerican
I believe her because:
D) She held out for as long as she could on the money issue, but in her situation with medical bills out the roof and no one to help- I can't say I blame her at that point.
Interview with April Gallop
I contacted Pentagon survivor April Gallop to see if she could verify David Ray Griffin’s assertion that the Pentagon is one of the most heavily-defended buildings in the world. I also wanted to ask April if there were automatic anti-aircraft defenses at the Pentagon, and whether they were triggered if the “friend or foe” signal did not indicate a friendly aircraft.
April confirmed both of these things, and gave me alot of other information.
I am still undecided about what hit the Pentagon, but I trust April as a source.
Here is the full article. Whatever your beliefs, it is worth reading the whole thing. And please consider helping out April and her son, who were both injured on 9/11, and yet have been largely ignored by both the government and the 9/11 truth community. Whatever you think about the Pentagon, April and her son need our help.
April Gallop worked inside the Pentagon on 9/11, as an administrative specialist (with a Top Secret with SCI clearance) with the U.S. Army. It was her first day back from maternity leave, after delivering her son Elisha, then two and a half months old.
Me: April, did you hear any warning alarms go off before the Pentagon was hit on 9/11?
AG: No I did not. Me: What type of warning alarms would you normally expected to go off in the case of an attack on the building
AG: While I worked at the Pentagon. At random times, there would be drill exercises utilizing an alarm for us to evacuate the building.
Yet on that particular day no alarm. [This is] especially [odd] considering the fact of what had already taken place at the World Trade Center.
Me: When you were first hired to work at the Pentagon, what were you told about the security of the building?
AG: I wasn’t hired. I was selected from the military in Germany. I just was granted approval for an additional 3 years tour in Heidelberg Germany. Which is called an IPCOT (In Place Consecutive Tour). Then I learned I was selected among my peers to go to the Pentagon. Upon arrival,I completed what is known as Reception and Integration.
A common statement provided, as you are walking around is that, “you are now standing in one of the most secure building in all of the United States.” It is quite an impressive building on the inside.
Me: Do you have any theory about how a Boeing 757 could have hit such a secure building without any anti-aircraft defenses being activated or any warning alarms sounded?
AG: I have thought about this very question numerous times. And then I realized I needed to rephrase the question. The real question is what is the probability or likelihood that no anti-aircraft defense, warning alarms or additional security mechanism functioned on that particular day?
And then we need to think how likely is it then there was a glitch in all the security mechanisms, anti-aircraft defense and warning alarms?
You know, it takes a while to get around that building. And I remember being so disgusted at the frequency of random drill exercises taking place for us to evacuate the building. It seemed as if they always happened when I had to take care of certain things.
Yet on September 11th, the day when our lives were threatened, not one alarm.
Me: I would imagine that security procedures are different now than they were prior to 9/11, so I don’t think you would be revealing any confidential information by answering this question. I have heard that, as of 9/11, the anti-aircraft batteries were automated, in other words, that they would have automatically fired against any incoming aircraft that did not transmit the appropriate friend or foe signal. Is that true?
AG: Yes that is true. They are either to attempt to guide the incoming aircraft that has violated the airspace to a safe location to land. Making reasonable effort to guide it down. Or shoot it down.
Me: I know that you have previously been quoted about things like thinking that a bomb had exploded in the Pentagon, and that you did not see any plane debris in the Pentagon. I do not want to misquote you or twist your words. Is there anything you wish to state about these topics?
AG: I have been misquoted on numerous occassions. That happens when individuals have ulterior motives. But here is my statement for the record.
Originally posted by TrueAmerican
So now I will ask the naysayers the following question. Why should I believe you over her, when she was there, with the clearance, and CONFIRMS the point defenses at the Pentagon?
Originally posted by WestPoint23
Your whole argument centers on technicality and subjective value over all the other evidence which points to no such defenses? If a person from that time period, who was there on 9/11 with higher clearance and position said the opposite, you would flip your stance on a dime? That's a pretty shallow and blissful way of forming an opinion and using it to label others. Give credence to superficial things if you want but that woman is straight lying or hopelessly misinformed.
So now I will ask the naysayers the following question. Why should I believe you over her, when she was there, with the clearance, and CONFIRMS the point defenses at the Pentagon?[edit on Tue Feb 3rd 2009 by TrueAmerican]
Originally posted by TrueAmerican
I seriously doubt you would be in a position to actually do so, Pinch. If they are normally not going to let a 3 month old baby into the Pentagon into secured areas, why in the world would they clear me?
Originally posted by TrueAmerican
Oh please. Stop trying the skirt the issue. She says they had drills so often at the Pentagon they were literally annoying. But on 911: No alarms, no nothing.
Originally posted by TrueAmerican
I believe this video to be fake. But, I did have a question Pinch. What are those two big objects on the roof, rear right?