UFO files to be released under Obama Open Government Memoranda

Originally posted by moonbeam cat:
the human race as a whole isnt civilised enough to grasp the idea of meeting aliens,when there is still wars going on,crime,murders,killing of wildlife/animals is it any wonder the goverment hasnt released any information,humans at this point in time are not ready for the responsibility of even knowing let alone interacting and evolving.

i dont think so, i think if humans knew, alot of the wars would possibly stop. religion is the cause of most wars, and this would negate the need for religion. it would completely take away many reasons for religious nuts, both christian and muslim, to go to war.



look, humans want change. to say that change would cause violence is a gross misunderstanding of human nature. we have a need to learn, a need to achieve. if 2 million people can converge on washington without a single violent arrest, i think we can handle disclosure

[edit on 23-1-2009 by wheazy]

reply to post by moonbeam cat


i disagree, but time will tell...

Obama to Disclose X-Files on Anti-Gravity Technology!



More on the subject enjoy.

reply to post by bharata


nice video, thanks

reply to post by RFBurns

Yeah, I don't expect to see pictures of any ET's
that have been visiting or a genuine profile shot
of a U.F.O.

I have a feeling we will get some blurry pictures
that can't be analyzed fully. Lots of documents
with black lines through em. However this is a
start and I am hopeful that anything that is released
could help fill in the holes of the countless sightings.

Perhaps we will stumble upon a gem which could
prove to some, that there is something out there.

Originally posted by wheazy


i dont think so, i think if humans knew, alot of the wars would possibly stop. religion is the cause of most wars, and this would negate the need for religion. it would completely take away many reasons for religious nuts, both christian and muslim, to go to war.



look, humans want change. to say that change would cause violence is a gross misunderstanding of human nature. we have a need to learn, a need to achieve. if 2 million people can converge on washington without a single violent arrest, i think we can handle disclosure

[edit on 23-1-2009 by wheazy]

I dont see how alien disclosure has anything to do with religion. Wars would not stop because of alien disclosure... religion would not weaken because of alien disclusure "God created the universe so He created aliens as well"... please explain me the complete theory on how alien disclosure would affect any religious matters?

(ps. there are more religions at war than only christians and muslims )

Let’s play some different scenario which in my opinion are all excluding the possibility that Obama show us the truth.
1. The UFO don’t exist, so his answer would be that the UFO don’t exist and no body of us would believe him and we would probably think that he join the conspiracy.
2. Other option. He ask about truth all chiefs of different agencies and they would say him that they can’t because he don’t have the enough level of secret access as we already heard about Carter so he told to the public that doesn’t discover any UFO in the files.
3. One more option. He would ask that question and in the answer he would meet the small grey ambassador of other species that he would told him what he can do as e president and what he can’t do. In that option the public would find the same as in the last two. For us nothing is ever changing.

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or 4:

he will eliminate the powers of the past holding these secrets (which Aliens have nothing to do with) and finally tell the world the truth without fear of the backlash...

Sure would be nice....unfortuanatly I fear most or all of any relevant papers would be considered detrimental to "national security". Will either be blacked out alot or not released at all, under the pretext that release would cause general hysteria.

yeah lets wait and see first .............. for all we know this could just be another Condone report scenario where we just get lots of bogus answers and calls of Venus and swamp gas bieng the cause's......

But i do live in hope so maybe we will get some kind of proper disclosure soon.....

Don't even begin to expect anything more than.


"Yes, there was UFOs. We do not know what they are are, or if they are alien. We have substantial evidence there was fog gas in the vicinity."

You really think that they're going to say, HEY ALIEN ZIMBOB HAS BEEN COMING HERE FOR OVER 60 YEARS AND YEAH HE DISABLED NUKES AND SAVED THE PLANET FROM EPIC FAILURE!

Well.
Don't.

The most you're going to get, is exactly what the Bluebook says, Oh my god there was a UFO we have no idea what it is.

reply to post by moonbeam cat


releasing the files does not mean releasing them to the public. i would be just as happy knowing people in power and elected by the people know whats going on and not just a small group of the elite who might manipulate this information for generations to come...

reply to post by Anonymous ATS


why do you think intelligent extra-terrestrial life do not have any sort of religion? surely they will not have the universe 100% understood, even if they have mastered space travel. and religion comes in part from the unknown.

do you realize how big the universe is, or at least how big we think it is? current rough estimates are 100 billion stars per galaxy and there's 100s of billions galaxies in the observable universe.

Obama or not, I believe "disclosure" is close simply because very soon, everybody will go up to space, thanks to Virgin Galactic and others. All these videos from Space Shuttles being escorted by various UFOs? Well, soon enough, you can get a ticket and see for yourself. So we will either see it with our own eyes, or we won't.

If there really are UFOs hanging out around Earth all the time, we will see them on our 5-minute sub-orbital trips next year. That implies that some degree of disclosure has to happen.

Or we don't see anything and therefore, no disclosure is necessary or possible.

Either way, we'll find out very soon.

reply to post by bharata


I posted that video a couple of pages ago. I usually read the whole thread before posting.


not one line. see....it's not

[edit on 23-1-2009 by becomingaware]

It all depends on what your definition is of a threat to national security. If it gives away stratetic information that other countries could use against us, then yes that is a problem. But if all the world's religions are voided by releasing proof of alien life. Then this could cause social unrest, and most government officials are scared of how to deal with that. I say let it be known that religion was founded on a foundation of lies. If it doesn't kill us it makes us stronger.

reply to post by skeeveve


Ok, for some reason or another I got warned for my previous post, and I think an explanation is due.

I would like to inform you, person, that there will be no sub-orbital trips taking place for everyone in the any near seen future, there fore, your post has not in one way shape or form made any sense to me, and possibly many other members. Whatever you are talking about, please enlighten me on how we will be see UFOs in sub-orbit or space.

I would also like to inform you, that it costs over a million dollars to take a sub-orbital flight, and that is completely insane to assume that an average citizen would be flying out around space.

Thank you, and please indulge in what it exactly is you are talking about.

reply to post by bharata


bharata, I recognize that narrator form some previous YT videos he's done, glad you included that one. I'd recommend AGAINST, however, using the rather childish (N)ever (A) (S)traight (A)nswer insult regarding the NASA acronym....

Letter-writing campaigns...have worked well in Hollywood, of course, but...this MIGHT be more effective (if at all) if it were International in scope. (?)

To CRAKEUR, and everyone....I really see what Crakeur has been trying to say. Remember, please, that he's been privy to some of the inner workings of this concept of 'disclosure' for quite some time.

I want to be clear here, I'd cheer the revelation of 'disclosure'...but, like Crakeur, I'm doubting its full exposure will reach us. Actually, I'll revise that, and opine that it HAS been trickling out, decade after decade....but it is meted in small doses. Might take many more generations --- "Not fair!", you say?

Whilst I agree, consider this: IF the Human Race were presented with the sort of knowledge, the techological 'wonders' that are expected to be derived from ET advances, how would the average less-than-honest person wish to use this new-found tool?

The example I come up with is, "What if you gave 1,000 8-year olds in a school yard each, a loaded gun??"

IF you had given them proper gun-handling training, and were certain that they would be responsible with the weapon, then MAYBE there would be no tragedies. But, since you and I are both Human, what, really, do you think are the chances of that happening?

What I'm trying to point out is, there are certain elements, certain individuals in the Human Race that would find a way to mis-use sufficiently advanced technology for themselves. Humanity is a long way from complete altruism......