afterlife.

hey everyone
i was just curious as to what would happen when we die is there a another ''earth'' for the people who need to learn a lesson and a ''heaven'' for the good people what is your views on it and would we even remember our family friends is what im scared about
thanks

Originally posted by piero
hey everyone

i was just curious as to what would happen when we die is there a another ''earth'' for the people who need to learn a lesson and a ''heaven'' for the good people what is your views on it and would we even remember our family friends is what im scared about
thanks

I'll answer your questions with my opinions...

When anyone dies their spirit is seperated from their body, there is no light you need to travel through, you'll automatically be in the dimension your spirit naturally resides in, you will be greeted by family members who will tell you what's up about the spirit world, family members you will trust more than anyone, but there will still be doctrines in the spirit 'earth', yes the spirit world is not a land of mist, it looks just like this earth, it only happens to be made out of spirit just like your spirit so you won't be floating around or anything, there will continue to be doctrines as I was saying and there will be teachers of doctrines, you can still choose to accept or reject prophets, but most people will have their mind made up, there will be no work and no fatigue, no physical pain, but mental pain will remain for those that regret doing or not doing anything in our world.

reply to post by piero


Do you get the WE channel on TV? Watch John Edward for some insight to your question.

reply to post by Razimus


How do you know this? Have you experienced these things you talk about. If you answer yes then you must be dead.


[edit on 19-1-2009 by Muundoggie]

Originally posted by Muundoggie
reply to post by piero

 

Do you get the WE channel on TV? Watch John Edward for some insight to your question.

Your joking right?... John Edward is a scammer. He doesn't have Whoopi Goldberg Ghost powers, he uses a common trick called "Cold Reading", it can easily be replicated.

en.wikipedia.org...

[edit on 19-1-2009 by Razimus]

Originally posted by Muundoggie
How do you know this? Have you experienced these things you talk about. If you answer yes then you must be dead.

"I'll answer your questions with my opinions..." I have no need to even attempt to prove my opinions on this matter.

[edit on 19-1-2009 by Razimus]

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NO I'm not joking. I have first hand experience with his ability as my own mother was able to do the same thing. So there is no way you will ever convince me that people can not do this. I have lived it.

...read Robert Monroe and Bruce Moen's books...

they explain afterlife like just another consciousness' focus planes/levels

so when someone dies, depending on his/her knowledge, positive or negative energy that this person gave to others during his/her life they go to similar planes of their vibrational energy

those who were good to others go to higher focus planes and those who were evil or ignorant go to lower focus planes (known as hell)

there are infinite number of hells and 'hollow heavens' (as they call heaven-like hells)

but staying in hell or hollow heavens is NOT ETERNAL, you can get out whenever you wish, or realize that you are in hell

read here a more detailed explanation:
www.afterlife-knowledge.com...

why I think this might be genuine? because those people explore in groups and compare their notes afterwards: they realized that their notes are almost the same except for some subjective differences in perceiving details

and they do not impose their system upon anyone, they are simply saying: we experience this, you don't have to believe us...


cheers

Originally posted by piero
i was just curious as to what would happen when we die is there a another ''earth'' for the people who need to learn a lesson and a ''heaven'' for the good people what is your views on it and would we even remember our family friends is what im scared about
thanks

Your question is simple, but there are so many ways to answer it, and some answers are quite complex; so I’m going to provide a simple answer, which I hope will suffice.

In Heaven, or the Spirit World, after your body dies your spirit or soul goes to the place where it is entitled to be, according to your level of spiritual attainment. These places are called planes of existence, and you will find at the very lowest level souls who have been Murderers, Rapists, Torturers, Drug Dealers and all those who have committed similar crimes against Natural Law. At the higher levels you will find those who have developed to become High Spiritual Beings through their total number of lives on our Earth Plane. You could describe the bottom level as Hell and the top as the Kingdom of Heaven; so Hell is a state of mind and applies to those in the lowest realms of Heaven.

There are other levels in between the lower and highest planes, and when you return to the place to which you are entitled, you will recognise those loved ones, including any pets you may be fond of, as they will be waiting for you and there will be a happy reunion. That pre-supposes that you are not down at the lowest level, where happiness is in short supply.

There is no limit to the expanse of Heaven, for as we are in a Material World we tend to think in terms of room sizes, state or province sizes, country and planet sizes, as everything has a given size that can be measured. The Spirit World (Heaven) is infinite; it has no limits, but that is a hard concept for us in a 3 dimensional world to understand.

Life there is as real as it is here, probably more so, and if you don’t want to learn more you don’t have to. Many people choose to continue their education in preparation for their next incarnation, so that if you wanted to become an architect, doctor or musician say, you would need to have been educated in these disciplines up to a certain level, prior to the commencement of the next life.

The Planes of Existence that need concern us are:

Plane 5 - The Plane of No Return (No need to return to an earthly life).
Plane 4 - The Graduation Plane.
Plane 3 - (A Plane for people continuing to advance spiritually).
Plane 2 - The Plane of Spiritual Awakening.
Plane 1 - The Astral Plane comprising; Upper Astral (For the Spiritually unawakened); Lower Astral (Hell).

Planes above Plane 5 are for those who manage the Universe, High Spiritual Beings etc., and are not relevant to this thread.

I hope that answers your question simply, but since the matter is so vast, it may be worth reading a published work on the subject. Over the years I’ve read many books about the Afterlife, but the best is a short and low cost definitive work called ‘A Course in Spiritual Philosophy by Amanda Valiant, which can be purchased from the link below, if anyone’s interested.

www.sphere8.com...

It’s nothing to be scared about, particularly if you know what to expect, and this book tells you.

let me be totaly honest..

I wont give you links i wont spout any stupid theory...


WE DONT KNOW... THATS THE PROBLEM

WHEN U DIE UR DEAD END OF STORY


I hope that helped.. and please dont listen to idiots who think they know becouse they are WRONG..

dead - dead and you aint coming back

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It’s nothing to be scared about, particularly if you know what to expect, and this book tells you.


hahaha omggg lord

you see this is our problem in life PEOPLE ARE SO STUPID THEY THINK THEY KNOW WHAT AFTERLIFE MEANS?

what is after life? or next life?

YOU R DEAD FFS

you aint here... so your not "alive" its stupid and # absured

omg i sware im stuck on a rock going crazy watching you all ask dumb questions about life

LIVE IT STOP # ASKING ABOUT THE NEXT ONE

THERE AINT A NEXT LIFE

did you remember ANYTHING befor you was born? NO U DIDNT

thats what will happen when u die U WONT KNOW becouse u cant even think

jeez ... i mean if that was the case

tell me ONE person just ONE who has been dead for a week ...came back

not that you would want to.. but say you did or he/she

has said Oh guess what guys we dont even need to be alive becouse there is this thing AFTERLIFE its soooo amazing its a astral plane filled wiht lots of flowers...

get a grip..

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i just wanna know theresult has gotta point how can we believe something thats written by some people a long time ago. im catholic but i dont know really lol can people who believe in austral stuff make me go to your side i have done astral projection and sorta believe you too many unexplainable things have happened in my life ghosts things flying around by themselves so im not sure what to believe no im not crazy lol

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dude having a belife in yourself is more important than listinging to some people who have no grasp on reality...

You will die just like me.. its a sad fact

I will miss life even tho its totaly crummy... for me neways

But the point is here to enjoy it while you can..

we dont get another chance on this "astral" plane as some nuts try to point out...



dont worry be happy!

Originally posted by theresult
has said Oh guess what guys we dont even need to be alive becouse there is this thing AFTERLIFE its soooo amazing its a astral plane filled wiht lots of flowers...

get a grip.

All I am doing is to honestly answer the OP’s question with the benefit of my understanding of 34 years study of the subject, in the hope that it may be of interest to somebody. If it isn’t, that’s fine by me, and your choice of derisive comment is also fine by me, for that is your free-will choice.

Like the rest of us, you are going to die at some future time, and then you will have the opportunity to find out whether your opinion is correct. Just because you can’t see another dimension, you think nothing else exists, so I look forward to you finally receiving the proof of the actual situation, whatever you find it to be.

All I am doing is to honestly answer the OP’s question with the benefit of my understanding of 34 years study of the subject

study.. sounds way like the bible to me and look were that got us..

being alive is the important part not worry about death or the next level of whatever or who made you or me

we are here for a reason STAY ALIVE becouse when that big door slams shut

WE aint coming back.. AND we aint going to be "you or me" in the way we "think"

you are unable to "be" you on the next level becouse this level is what makes YOU and lets you Hypothersise

And i dont mean to say that you are incorrect.. ok well i did my bad..

Reality is a #ch

just to add "i have seen a gohst"

didnt change my thinking then and it wont now...

[edit on 19-1-2009 by theresult]

Originally posted by theresult
let me be totaly honest..

I wont give you links i wont spout any stupid theory...


WE DONT KNOW... THATS THE PROBLEM

WHEN U DIE UR DEAD END OF STORY


I hope that helped.. and please dont listen to idiots who think they know becouse they are WRONG..

dead - dead and you aint coming back

If your right I'll admit to you that you were right oh wait I won't be able to admit because there's nothing past your end, but if I'm right, and you have conciousness after death, please use your mind to let me know your there I'd love to see the look on your spirit face heheheheh.

Originally posted by Muundoggie
reply to post by Razimus

 

NO I'm not joking. I have first hand experience with his ability as my own mother was able to do the same thing. So there is no way you will ever convince me that people can not do this. I have lived it.

So you met him? I won't ask any details, but I do know this, he's fooled people in the past, he'll fool people in the future, he has a very Sylvia Browne vibe to him, where he thinks he knows stuff when he doesn't, but this is my opinion, I'm just saying it's not impossible that he could fool you or me, I'm sure he's good at what he does.

haha

Hey ill buy you a coffee and we can chat about it all

3rd

Originally posted by theresult
haha

Hey ill buy you a coffee and we can chat about it all

Thanks, mine's a grande soymilk latte with an extra shot!