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Iran: Something secret up there sleeve?

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posted on Jan, 8 2009 @ 12:47 PM
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Greetings my friends


As we all know, the new fad these days is to hate on Iran and accuse them of being the biggest terrorists right now. I was thinking Why would IRAN talk so much sh1t to USA/Isreal; Think about it, why would you talk bad to those countries? There is not a single other country crazy enough to say that. Iran is the best Army in the Middle East (Not including Isreal), And everyone knows it.


Why do you guys think Iran is Talking back A LOT to USA? You think they got something up there sleeve that none of us (including the USA/Isreal governments) don't know? I know it sounds crazy, but you never know!

So what do you guys think they might be hiding?

Maybe they already have nukes? There also been a lot of talk about there shahab 6 missle (capable of hitting east coast of american from iran)



posted on Jan, 8 2009 @ 12:50 PM
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Supersonic rockets/missles seem to be the rage these days. I hope we didn't dump so much into our missle shield that we didn't make wise investments in other areas of defense. They could also have Russia and China at their back. Might make em feel tough.



posted on Jan, 8 2009 @ 12:52 PM
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Originally posted by stikkinikki
Supersonic rockets/missles seem to be the rage these days. I hope we didn't dump so much into our missle shield that we didn't make wise investments in other areas of defense. They could also have Russia and China at their back. Might make em feel tough.



I don't know if this is possible, but maybe they already indeed have the ability to produce nukes, and they are. The Shahab 6 (pardon my spelling) has nuclear capabilities. The Shahab 6 is also said to have been made with Russian help, so maybe there already have nuclear shahabs ready

[edit on 8-1-2009 by Acelet]



posted on Jan, 8 2009 @ 01:06 PM
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Originally posted by Acelet
There also been a lot of talk about there shahab 6 missle (capable of hitting east coast of american from iran)


Europe, yes. US, no. The Shahab-6 has a range of just under 4,000 miles (approx. 3,728)... thus falling quite a bit shy of the east coast of America (approx 6,200+). The U.K., of course, as well as several other nations, is an entirely different story



posted on Jan, 8 2009 @ 01:12 PM
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Originally posted by 12m8keall2c

Originally posted by Acelet
There also been a lot of talk about there shahab 6 missle (capable of hitting east coast of american from iran)


Europe, yes. US, no. The Shahab-6 has a range of just under 4,000 miles (approx. 3,728)... thus falling quite a bit shy of the east coast of America (approx 6,200+). The U.K., of course, as well as several other nations, is an entirely different story



Thanks for the clarification, I Need to read better sources next time =)



posted on Jan, 8 2009 @ 01:34 PM
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The reason that Iran talks crap to the USA is because the powers that control Iran, are the same bankers that control the USA.

These banking elites wish to create a WW 3 scenario, where we the people of all nations on earth beg for a world government to save us from the catasrophy .

SO what im saying is Iran and USA are one in the same, sharing the same Banking Masters, and these masters are concocting a false flag WW3 to usher in their global dominion.

Sadly, considering Occam's Razor, this is by far the simplest explaination and also has the most evidence to back it up.

Lets take a look at what HENRY KISSINGER says about all this???

"Today Americans would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful. This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government."



posted on Jan, 8 2009 @ 01:36 PM
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the reason that this explanation is far simpler than the MASS MEDIA explanation (that iran is terrorists) is because Iran would be utterly obliterated within 3 days of the war.

Iran has 0% chance to win that war vs the USA. 0%

The US Military is so technologically advanced and powerful right now, they could prolly hold off China Russia and India all at once, and win ! (not without massive losses however)



posted on Jan, 8 2009 @ 01:39 PM
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easy question, they don't need to be hiding anything to feel safe winding up america;

Russia gave them the best anti-aircraft systems in the world to gain friendship points for use in the talks about oil pipe lines.

China gave them the #other# best anti-aircraft system in the world for the very same reason,

this means they probably have the ability to shoot down super high altitude objects and intercept cruse missiles, thus americas super weapons are useless.

Then consider that Iran has a massive internet, some of the most advanced hacking comes from Iran -with russian botnets helping out iran could easily mess up the high tech systems which give the US the edge in most battles, they could probably even disrupt satalite communications / monitoring - china does this all the time.

Iran would be almost impossible for america to invade with tanks, iran has an army trained to fight the old fashioned way while most american troops would be lost cut off from their high tech gadgets.

The final part of the puzzle, if Iran was nuked then fallout would blow all over china, russia and europe - America wouldn't be anyones friend if she did this, i dare say a few people would threaten to nuke the U.S. if she threatened it.



posted on Jan, 8 2009 @ 01:43 PM
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BUT....what if launched from a trawler 200 mi off the US coast??



posted on Jan, 8 2009 @ 01:44 PM
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Thanks for the replies guys, very interesting stuff.



posted on Jan, 8 2009 @ 01:50 PM
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The only country that has ever used nuclear bombs on human beings,
are the United States. The only country that has proven it cannot handle
that kind of technology in a mature way, are the United States.

It is kind of silly to be scared of middle east countries trying to create a
home made nuke in their backyard. They're really the last likely to ever
actually use a nuclear bomb. The amount of nuclear bombs possessed by
the United States, is appalling and outright frightening on a solar system
level.. them going around the world trying to stop other countries from
working on nuclear technology, is one of the biggest jokes ever.

The whole world would breathe much easier if the US would finally destroy
their massive nuclear supplies. No country should have the power to wipe
out the entire planet we live on, in a matter of hours. The US just cannot
be trusted with that kind of power, they've proven that again and again.

It's already set in stone that the US will completely lose all their power soon
enough, but I hope it happens before they decide to go out with a bang,
and take the whole world with them in revenge.

The whole world either hates the US, or fears it. They either hate it for the
atrocities it has comitted, and is still comitting on a massive scale, or they
fear it for the immaturity they display in the use of their nuclear arsenal.

I send all my good wishes, hope and prayers to the american people, I hope
they find the strength to tear down the terrible dictatorship they live in, and
rebuild their country in love and compassion. President Obama won't help
you with this, as he's part of that terrible mechanism that is the US
government, you'll have to do it yourself.

[edit on (8/1/09) by Wehali]



posted on Jan, 8 2009 @ 02:27 PM
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Wow, don't hold anything back Wehali, tell us how you really feel about America.

Why can't we all just get along?


[edit on 8-1-2009 by md11forever]



posted on Jan, 8 2009 @ 02:45 PM
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It looks like we will soon see. This was posted on another thread.

RES. 362

Iran might take this as an act of war.



posted on Jan, 8 2009 @ 02:50 PM
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Originally posted by lucidclouds
It looks like we will soon see. This was posted on another thread.

RES. 362

Iran might take this as an act of war.


That's been around since May of 2008 and so far Iran hasn't. Looks to me like more posturing, that's all...
But as you say, we shall see...



posted on Jan, 10 2009 @ 03:15 PM
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Seriously though they might have something minor up there sleeve but I don't think that it would be anything major like radioactive spiders or something. Even if they had ICBM's we would know about it and even then we would probably retaliate.



posted on Jan, 10 2009 @ 03:23 PM
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Originally posted by Acelet

Originally posted by stikkinikki
Supersonic rockets/missles seem to be the rage these days. I hope we didn't dump so much into our missle shield that we didn't make wise investments in other areas of defense. They could also have Russia and China at their back. Might make em feel tough.



I don't know if this is possible, but maybe they already indeed have the ability to produce nukes, and they are. The Shahab 6 (pardon my spelling) has nuclear capabilities. The Shahab 6 is also said to have been made with Russian help, so maybe there already have nuclear shahabs ready

[edit on 8-1-2009 by Acelet]


Israel and the US have made it very clear that Iran will not be permitted to have Nukes. Plain and simple. If they get any closer to truly having a nuke they will be annihilated. So because they are still alive is testament to the fact that they do not have one yet.



posted on Jan, 10 2009 @ 03:23 PM
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www.nytimes.com...
U.S. Rejected Aid for Israeli Raid on Iranian Nuclear Site
By DAVID E. SANGER Published: January 10, 2009
WASHINGTON — President Bush deflected a secret request by Israel last year for specialized bunker-busting bombs it wanted for an attack on Iran’s main nuclear complex and told the Israelis that he had authorized new covert action intended to sabotage Iran’s suspected effort to develop nuclear weapons, according to senior American and foreign officials.


....why go nuclear when


www.tehrantimes.com...
January 11, 2009
Iran’s first solar power plant comes on stream Tehran Times Economic Desk TEHRAN – Iran’s first solar power plant was inaugurated in Shiraz on Saturday, the director of the solar energy division of the Iranian Renewable Energies Organization announced. All the equipment for the power plant was manufactured using domestic materials and expertise, Peyman Kanan told the Mehr News Agency. “Iran has taken a giant stride towards generating electricity at the national level through the inauguration of the solar power plant,” he added. The Shiraz solar power plant boasts a modest 250KW energy production capacity, which can be increased to 500KW by installing larger solar panels, he explained



[edit on 10-1-2009 by TrainDispatcher]



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