Cop Shoots Apparently Helpless Man In The Back (Update: Officer quits to avoid IA questions)

Originally posted by Exuberant1
reply to post by clearmind

 

"..confusing your weapon for a taser....that will be his defense. "

Which would mean the Cop literally doesn't know left from right...

I hope he gets the death penalty.

"I don't know my left from my right" is not an excuse.

*'Tazer-confusion' is Orwellian NewsSpeak Vol 12.

Cause giving the death penalty will solve anything. :shk:

I agree with everything else.

reply to post by zerbot565


Your comment sounds a little superior as if you are above it all. That doesn't excuse shooting someone with little to no provocation. Police earn their reputation by their treatment of those they are supposed to serve, kids and all. A few months ago, we had three squads at our home, it was staked out as the officer came to the door and ticketed us for too many dogs even though they know we foster animals and are not dog hoarders. We live in a QUIET burb of Chicago and I've never had so much as a traffic ticket. Good way to errode trust and respect of police officers. I can only imagine what inner city kids deal with on a daily basis because of their age, color or national origin. None of this brings even the littlest smile to my face.

reply to post by Unlimitedpossibilities


"Cause giving the death penalty will solve anything."

After his Jury Trial, Life in Prison would suffice.

The Death Penalty would be far too nice for this one. He can't experience incarceration if he is dead.

It is a shame he was not so humane as we are with his last victim.



[edit on 10-1-2009 by Exuberant1]

Originally posted by Leo Strauss
I could not do the job because I know I am prone to shoot first ask questions later.

You had me up until this statement.

And this I think is the mentality of some police officers. They think they CAN shoot first and ask questions later and they will be protected just because they have a badge. This way of thinking is very anti-semantic and the more cases that are recorded by civilians, and the truth is right there on camera, their point in case are more and more meaningless.

I will keep my stance. I doesn't matter if it was an accident or not. The young man died a meaningless death at the hands of this officer and needs to be charged to the full extent of the law.

The way it would works is if you are not a cop...you shoot a handcuffed, bellydown person in the back.....and it just happens that a lot of cops are around you...you DO NOT get a trial.....you are put down on the spot like a Mad Dog. Story over. No lawyer, no second chance.

In this case the guy was a cop...so he gets a few months off and gets a new carreer.

You know I just can't get too excited by this and other police brutality cases because the families and the "still living" victims are not willing to fight. When people are willing to stand up and FIGHT, then I will be encouraged, everyone wants "someone else" to do it, including people on ATS.

Here is the complete video from the train car. After shooting the suspect the shooter manhandles his own victim. If you had any thoughts that it was a mere accident think again. That was a first degree murder!

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

Originally posted by racegunz
You know I just can't get too excited by this and other police brutality cases because the families and the "still living" victims are not willing to fight.

You obviously commented without reading the entire thread. Just last page, someone posted another incident.

Family wants police charged in New Orleans killing

everyone wants "someone else" to do it, including people on ATS.

Sorry mate, you're wrong. People try to do plenty about it only to be dodged, knocked down, or even shot in the back and killed for saying anything. It's kinda hard when the people in power protect their own.

reply to post by Alpha_Magnum



It is extremely hard to argue or defend what is right in front of you.

You know what they say.... "one picture is worth a thousand words".

reply to post by TARBOX


Wrong, I read it, you misunderstand what I mean by FIGHT, I do not mean begging for scraps from our corrupt legal system. The people at Waco fought, the family at Ruby Ridge started to fight back, no one helped these people,WHY??? I think they were villified by the same media you all say you don't trust, but you call for SOMEONE to do something?
We all stand alone I've accepted this, we are a divided people we will hang seperately except for the ones that will lick their boots. Even the rioters in greece which stand far above any pathetic American resistance do not go after the powers that be WHY??? because they are boot lickers just like us.

Been reading up on this lately, and man this does not look good for that officer. That last video posted just above is clear that this officer shot an unarmed defenseless, compliant restrained suspect.

Im appalled.

reply to post by TARBOX


The situation of people today reminds me of what Tom Cruises Character in collateral said to the cabbie when he found out he was killing people, basically he said people are killed all the time, what did you do about it? join Greepeace? ect ect. only when it's in our backyard do we care and then we care very little, it's human nature, only a few times in history have people banded together and went against this selfish nature.

reply to post by racegunz


Well, if I misunderstood your statement, then I stand corrected.

But seriously....what the hell are people suppose to do? It is a no win situation for the people and a win win situation for those in power. So I guess that your "boot-licking" statement is true to an extent.

As unfortunate as it is, the system is the way it is and will stay that way because we, as civilians, are nothing but a nuisance to them.

reply to post by TARBOX


Well better to die on your feet than live a slave, but that's a macho easy thing to say, don't know if I can do it until there's nothing left to live for, I just know that if I'm ever in a situation like the ones we're discussing I will fight right then to the end. I know I will be villified on the news and many will say that the brave fallen officials died protecting the innocent BLAH BLAH BLAH. But if more people take a stand and the officials are scared to taser/beat/shoot people because everytime they do it's a fight to the death how long do you think they will continue to act in such a manner?

Originally posted by TARBOX
reply to post by racegunz

 

Well, if I misunderstood your statement, then I stand corrected.

But seriously....what the hell are people suppose to do? It is a no win situation for the people and a win win situation for those in power. So I guess that your "boot-licking" statement is true to an extent.

As unfortunate as it is, the system is the way it is and will stay that way because we, as civilians, are nothing but a nuisance to them.

Allow me to respond to that loaded question.

Thomas Jefferson explained it the best when he said:

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

1st is the 1st Amendment. We must address the government with our grievances. After that we get to the 2nd Amendment and self organize into militias. We then readdress the government and I imagine we shake the tree!!!

reply to post by racegunz


You're correct.

and yes, it is easier said than done, but I too would fight for what I believe is right. It seems that any time you take any stance against the powers that be, you are wrong.

It is in my sincere hope, that with all the camera phone video taken on that day, people in higher places will see the light and convict this person for life. If not, then the riots the other day in Oakland will seem like a Sunday afternoon in Disney Land. (Not that I approve of this, but just stating the obvious).

reply to post by Alpha_Magnum


Since the courts continually ignore our petitions for the redress of grievences, and the States are well implanted up the feds arses we have no "militia, I'd say it isn't going to happen like it did 200+ years ago.
No one is going to rescue the U.S. we are all on our own, try to make some "real" friends that you can trust and maybe when the time comes you can make it.
Back to the subject of the thread I talked to a buddy of mine last night from San fran and he had just heard a little clip of it on the radio two days ago, it's a bigger deal on ATS than it is there! how's that for apathy?

Originally posted by Alpha_Magnum
Allow me to respond to that loaded question.

Thomas Jefferson explained it the best when he said:

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

1st is the 1st Amendment. We must address the government with our grievances. After that we get to the 2nd Amendment and self organize into militias. We then readdress the government and I imagine we shake the tree!!!

Too bad Thomas Jefferson is not around today to see how bad things have got in the US. The US government would most likely throw him in prison or kill him for any of his remarks.

Freedom of Speech is gone. Freedom to carry a fire arm is gone.

Freedom in general..... GONE.

Originally posted by racegunz

Back to the subject of the thread I talked to a buddy of mine last night from San fran and he had just heard a little clip of it on the radio two days ago, it's a bigger deal on ATS than it is there! how's that for apathy?

I don't think that it is being heavily carried throughout the MSM. And why should they really. It would just add more fuel to the fire. In my opinion anyway.

reply to post by TARBOX

I don't think that it is being heavily carried throughout the MSM. And why should they really. It would just add more fuel to the fire. In my opinion anyway.

Well of course "they" don't want the news to get out, I doubt it would really enflame anyone but I pretty much covered my opinion on that.
I was just surprised that even just across the BAY Area it was a non-issue.I remember the Rodney King riots and they didn't kill that creep they just whipped him up real good.