Cop Shoots Apparently Helpless Man In The Back (Update: Officer quits to avoid IA questions)

The so called helpless man in question was another thuglife street punk that started a fight with a fellow comuter on the train when the fellow commuter defended his girlfriend who was being harrassed over her New Years Attire!

I was there saw the whole thing go down and I applaud B.A.R.T. police for a job well done!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by SKINWALKER2K9
The so called helpless man in question was another thuglife street punk that started a fight with a fellow comuter on the train when the fellow commuter defended his girlfriend who was being harrassed over her New Years Attire!

I was there saw the whole thing go down and I applaud B.A.R.T. police for a job well done!!!!!!!!!!!

So everyone look at this posters comments and I defy anyone to tell me this isn't the words of sheeple brain washing that will see in the NWO police state unhindered, nay welcomed!

Look poster I like you wish we didn't have these 'Thugs' your right but simply killing them isn't the correct response in any society. He's a product of your/our society, lack of parents (or parents just as ignorant as he clearly was if he was acting thuggishly - don't know wasn't there?) or prenatal love. But, isn't this just the sort of behaviour required from society to justify the defence budgets, the controls and removal of your human right to unhindered liberty? No, that ‘Thug’ wasn’t born a thug he was created.

i think they shot that guy cuz he told them "F you pigs!"

is it a coincidence hes black also? hope so

cuz this has the potential to cause some riots

Just remember Rodney King actually didnt die, but this kid here, died.

reply to post by ALLis0NE


I am not going to debate this with you. You have already succeeded in derailing this thread for 6+ pages.

It's like you have some sort of multiple personality disorder, right now we are seeing the personality which is trying to justify the previous personality's posts

Originally posted by defcon5
Here, for the ignorant...

A Thirty-Five Year Prison Sentence for Spitting at a Police Officer: The Danger of Basing Justice on Mistaken Assumptions
Last month, Willie Campbell was sentenced to 35 years’ imprisonment for spitting at Dallas police officer Dan Waller. The sentence was based in part on a jury finding that that because Campbell was HIV-positive, his spit qualified as a deadly weapon. As a result of the finding, Campbell will have to serve at least half his sentence before he is eligible for parole. The sentence is troubling, because it rests on fact-finding at odds with scientific evidence regarding the transmission of HIV.

Spitting at a police officer is a Felony in many states for this very reason.



[edit on 1/6/2009 by defcon5]

You cant get AIDS by kissing someone! (or spitting on them!)

Thats Pure LIES and BS!!!

These people are psychopathic!

Originally posted by ALLis0NE
It is "typical" for a Negro to be in "involved" in a crime involving aggression.

If this victim in the video was not "involved", then he would still be alive today. So the reason he got shot? Because he was "involved", which is typical for a Negro statistically, and physiologically.

Still digging that hole I see

You should be halfway to China by now, keep up the good work mate

Originally posted by SKINWALKER2K9
The so called helpless man in question was another thuglife street punk that started a fight with a fellow comuter on the train when the fellow commuter defended his girlfriend who was being harrassed over her New Years Attire!

I was there saw the whole thing go down and I applaud B.A.R.T. police for a job well done!!!!!!!!!!!

That, by LAW does not justify shooting a subdued, unarmed man in the back. That, my unconscionable friend, is called cowardice, and murder in may states.

Originally posted by SKINWALKER2K9
The so called helpless man in question was another thuglife street punk that started a fight with a fellow comuter on the train when the fellow commuter defended his girlfriend who was being harrassed over her New Years Attire!

I was there saw the whole thing go down and I applaud B.A.R.T. police for a job well done!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh, sorry people looked at the posters information. Nothing to see here its a deliberate baiting post from a virtually anonymous poster just trying to make us react the way I obviously did. Best Ignore this one

reply to post by SKINWALKER2K9


I'm afraid human decency, federal, and California law disagrees with you. And there is a reason for it. Good thing you're not in a position of power. Otherwise we'd have to worry about what kind of murder you would justify to the public. I'm trying to be nice here, but a rowdy New years trouble maker does not deserve to be shot in the back. No one does. You make me sick.

I'm willing to bet you don't know much about anything. And I'm also willing to bet you weren't there.

reply to post by SKINWALKER2K9


NO IT ISN'T JUSTIFIED!

It was an accident.

[edit on 6-1-2009 by ALLis0NE]

Originally posted by MoonMine

Originally posted by defcon5
Spitting at a police officer is a Felony in many states for this very reason.

Preposterous, HIV cannot be transmitted by spitting at someone.

Ever hear of gingivitis?

And blood surely can transmit HIV.

Originally posted by ALLis0NE
reply to post by SKINWALKER2K9

 

NO IT ISN'T JUSTIFIED!

It was an accident.

So it's an accident that statistically happens more to African Americans?

I'm getting more and more confused by your posts, first you go this way, then you go that way. I'm starting to agree with the previous poster who believes you have some sort of multiple personality disorder. Either that or you are doing a poor job of backpeddling.....

[edit on 6/1/2009 by Kryties]

A lot has been made about him kneeling up.But if you look at the video in this link it was the police who told him to do it so they could handcuff him,just like they were doing with the kid next to him.

www.ktvu.com...

And even though he may have been giving out some verbal abuse,the video clearly shows he was complying with the police.


Edited to add.Sorry folks,the link above takes you to the original video.
The one I'm talking about can be found just below the video in the link,next to the title;BART SHOOTING:New Passenger Video Of Fatal Fruitvale.



[edit on 6-1-2009 by DantesLost]

reply to post by defcon5

HIV is not the only thing that can be transmitted through saliva, How about Hepatitis B or C, and many other very nasty diseases that you don't want simply for doing your job.

Er,what?

Every scientific test will tell you that it is impossible for HIV to be passed by saliva alone.Kissing,tears,sweat,mutual masturbation,and getting another person's semen/cum or vaginal fluids on your skin does not spread HIV either.

The only time saliva would pose a risk would be if it had blood present in it. There are no documented cases of HIV transmission through saliva. There is a protein in the mouth that attaches itself to the surface of blood cells and blocks infection by HIV that appears to be present in the mucous membrane in the mouth at a level sufficient enough to reduce the concentration of HIV in saliva to non-infectious levels.


And only people with Chronic Mutant Hepatitis B/C are infectious to others.

Originally posted by defcon5
I already covered this above somewhere, but to charge an officer with manslaughter you have to show that they did something intentionally negligent. Like if the guy modified his weapon, or was in the habit of handling it unsafely. Police are given a large amount of leeway in making mistakes, even when it costs someone their life. As I have already stated above though, it will most likely end his career as a police officer.

Well it's simple really.

Either he drew his weapon intending to use it given the situation unfolding, which then is criminally negligent homicide as there was no reason for him to pull the trigger - Or he drew his weapon bu accident and it discharged accidentally, which is then involuntary manslaughter - and yes, if his was only in fear of his safety based on the commotion around him, he was negligent in his care of duty in that situation as the kid was not a threat yet he still drew his weapon.

Also if you read my other posts, you will see that one of the other reasons I truly feel that he did not intend to use his firearm is because of the proximity to other officers who were struggling with the victim.

He still drew his weapon when it was not required. That is neglect. And it would be murder had the roles be reversed.

An officer is not going to discharge his weapon when the person could easily pull one of his fellow officers into the line of fire at the last second, or where the shot could ricochet off the floor and strike another officer.

Therefore, involuntary manslaughter. Neglect not only in that he drew it, but he was in close proximity of his fellow officers and put them at real risk of death or serious injury also.

Basically, I see absolutely no case in which he CAN NOT be charged with a crime, BUT I know what sort of world we live in, and I know that it will be swept as much under the carpet as possible. Cops are above the law, don't you know.

As to your remark about the other case, I guess I just don't get it.

Get what? I was referring to the same case, I only mentioned the perth trains because the atmos here can be exactly as rowdy as it appeared on that video, and would lead to no good outcome if you mix with it an inexperienced cop who has no ability to step back from the situation and consider his next actions very carefully.

reply to post by DimensionalDetective


All those white guys, and they shoot the only black guy there??

And then they're setting up the stage lie and say that he thought he was shooting his taser and shot his gun instead! Is that their new thing? First its excited delirium, and now it's that they thought their gun was their taser.

Are you guys buying this? Do you really think cops are capable of this much havoc? Or might it be the aliens?

Something is amiss with these folks.

reply to post by DantesLost


I don't understand why he would be told to get up, and then be told to sit back down. If you watch that video, as he gets up, two officers put their hands out and tell him to get down. I think he got up on his own will, holding his hand up to get the attention of the officers perhaps.

It appears the victim is reaching out to the officers. This is a huge mistake. It could possibly trick the officer into thinking you are reaching for their weapon.

While the victims hands were free, and reaching, the officers probably realized he should be handcuffed. Typically, when a person is being restrained and they don't feel they should be, they will panic, and resist. Most of the time they end up manifesting their own nightmares.

The whole HIV convo is a destraction. It doesn't matter.

There are multiple diseases, infections, and viruses, that could be spread through saliva, or spit. No matter what, spitting on someone is equivalent to defecating on someone.

It's assault in today's world