dinosaurs & evolution

Hey all.Admittedly i lost a lot of schooling years due to severe illness so go easy if some of you regard this as a no brainer please. As far as evolution goes with this evolving from that & that evolved from something else ,what i wanna know is...what did dinosaurs evolve from?I mean whomever decided that this sandpit needed some sort of action figurines on it to make it more enjoyable to watch/play with just went zap & created these weird & yet also wonderful dinosaurs to let roam around.For what purpose?
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Well as i see it we have 2 ways to look at this

Soup "we came from a big bang" total rubbish btw..

Or we was created

or under the right circumstances life can come about through natrual processes...

to concider that requires much more to understand how... if you just assume that a divine entitny made everything then theres less thinking.... and then you can call stuff rubbish without proof and be satisfied with that anwser.

The Earth is made of star stuff and so are we. All life on earth came from one cell creatures found in the ocean. I would recommend that you find and watch a PBS series from years ago called Cosmos by a man named Carl Sagan. It has even been updated to a point prior to Carl's death in 1996.

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Dinosuars first showed up in the Triassic. General agrement is they evolved from Diapsid reptiles which themselves evolved from amphibians. The mass extinction at the end of the Permian period eventually led to more diverse types of reptiles, and dinosaurs are one type of reptile that emerged. They then evolved in different ways over almost 200 million years.

God created them and they walked with man and probably do to this day, just look at all the animals they keep finding that was supposedly extinct for 100's of millions of years.

I think many of the nessie, Champ, Ogo Pogo and etc. sightings are probably plesiasaurs and there is a swamp in Africa that supposedly is the home of a land dinosaur named something like MBalla (pronounced EM BALA) I believe...

I think that the reason they were so big and that was because they didn't have any natural predators and lived longer, according to the Bible. Reptiles never stop growing all their lives, now imagine a reptile living over 900 years, how big would that little thing get in that long?

I don't know if you are serious about this question or not but there is my answer, hope it helps...

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Uhmm, since there is no mention of dinosaurs in the bible, how can you be sure how long they lived?

yeah all i saw in the bible was a reference to a huge bird with a thousand eyes.... i just hope they all had eyelids because that could be very uncomfortable.

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...by a being who is invisible, has infinite knowledge without a brain (which is rubbish), has a consciousness (again, impossible without a brain), and can make anything they choose out of nothing. What's rubbish now?

EDIT: And to not be off-topic, there was no purpose for dinosaurs evolving from and into different forms of life.

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So dinosaurs were here first then??does that not mean we somehow were a spin off from dinosaurs then.I mean is it like once upon a time there was not a living thing on this earth-not a thing & then all of a sudden one day *poooofff* the early amphibians just started? Then a bit further in time *pooofff*the very first flora just happened to startup?Further along still *pooofff* a male & female neanderthal(or whatever humans originated from) just happened to start up?See what im getting at?Unless every single entity can be traced back to the one original start time then what or who just decides to *pooofff* start up with another chain of evolutionary thing or species?

Actually, the oldest known form of life as we know it, is still alvie today...off coast of Australia,,, thier Stromatalites...big coral mushroom looking things...they are estimated to be amongst the first living organisms... next to bacteria of course.

Originally posted by nadsonurchin
So dinosaurs were here first then??does that not mean we somehow were a spin off from dinosaurs then.I mean is it like once upon a time there was not a living thing on this earth-not a thing & then all of a sudden one day *poooofff* the early amphibians just started? Then a bit further in time *pooofff*the very first flora just happened to startup?Further along still *pooofff* a male & female neanderthal(or whatever humans originated from) just happened to start up?See what im getting at?Unless every single entity can be traced back to the one original start time then what or who just decides to *pooofff* start up with another chain of evolutionary thing or species?

Hey nadsonurchin

On the origin of life, here are a few videos that I think could help you understand better




No things didn't just "Poof" out of thin air. First there were simple bacteria, then over time they grew and adapted. And over the last 1.5 billion years, we have our modern ecosystems. No, we aren't a spin off of dinosaurs. Our last common ancestor we had with them was several hundred million years ago. However, birds are a decedent of dinosaurs.

As for your original question of the dinosaurs, they originated from a group called archosaurs. Literally, King Reptiles. The best modern representatives of this group are alligators and crocodiles.

Also, to theindependentjournal, I'm still waiting on you to formally accept or deny my offer to debate on evolution.

First, thier was bacteria, bacteria formed cells, in hte ocean, cells merged wtih eachother, forming simple creatures, like ocean floor creatures.. evolution went mad fast n crazy, and allowed them to have fins...eventually, nture allowed the fined fish and reptiles, to breathe out of water, enabling them to grow legs in a mutation...form thier, its belived they mutated... small dinosaurs were born, and since they needed flesh to live, nature designed them shap claws and running hind legs..they grew into monsterous house tall creatures...for some 80 million years...aka T rex, brontosaurus..
Around the world, back in 1978/1979 2 scientist found a layer of clay, that should NOT be in the geologic and fossil layerd record..i Iridium... it was concentrated moreso around the equator..and back around 1990, is then they discovered a HUGE crater, just off the coast of costa rica...and its estimated to be right aorund the dinosaurs dissperance...an asteroid impact.. it left a layer of clay aroud the world..but i belive, that impact was like the 3rd exctinction known on record actaully, i saw something about it on history channel few years ago...no one really knows, as wede have to go back in time n see it for ourselves, what happened...
so , its assumed, after the impact, rats n small mamls survived...and then eveloved into apes, into humans... but i find it ratehr difficult, that we evolved from apes sometimes..becuase nature seems to have a habbitt, of erasisng what it made, and brings ina new replacement..today their are plenty of ape and humans...their 98% the same as us, and so are cows... some think an asteroid carried our cells here,..others think alines..