Israeli tank column enters Gaza: witness

reply to post by gordonwest


LOL

MSNBC said they never broadcast what she claimed on there TV station.

MSNBC said she is a LIAR.

what is clearer than that?


one more time for the hard of unserstanding

MSNBC said thy NEVER broadcast what Gamergal claimed on there TV station

call them , they will tell you the same thing.

reply to post by Raustin


a small minor detail is that if you directly target civilians then in fact WP is illegal iunder protocol 3 of the CCWC.

Originally posted by Harlequin
reply to post by gordonwest

 

LOL

MSNBC said they never broadcast what she claimed on there TV station.

MSNBC said she is a LIAR.

what is clearer than that?


one more time for the hard of unserstanding

MSNBC said thy NEVER broadcast what Gamergal claimed on there TV station

call them , they will tell you the same thing.

No, MSNBC, and I, told you they never showed a video of it. Again, proof you called MSNBC? After you story changed from "MSNBC never showed a video of it!" and after many changes is now "No interview with anyone on the phone!" I'm thinking you never called MSNBC. And you still haven't quoted me saying there was video of it, because I never said there was.

reply to post by GamerGal


apparntly you can`t read

MSNBC called you a LIAR

they never broadcast what you claim , not now , not saturday or anytime.

so stop posting LIES.

There is no International TV press in Gaza, all the filming was done at the border.The rest is just feed from local people in gaza.Israel is censoring everything by not leting the international press go in.An hour ago CNN was stating that they do not know the current situation in Gaza city because they are not allowed in.

reply to post by Harlequin


True, directly targeting civilians is illegal. From what I've seen (concede I can't trust the news or what they are showing) they appear to be doing air bursts with the rounds. Very unfortunate if someone is struck by the remnants but if you want to kill civilians WP is not the way to go. Just drop bombs, they are more effective. I'm sure a few people will die from fires started by the stuff or direct contact but it really doesn't seem as bad for the civilians as the bombing/shooting.

Israel used White Phosphorus against HAMAS targets in Gaza during Operation Cast Lead in January 2009. This violated no international laws or conventions. White Phosphorus (WP), known as Willy Pete, is used for signaling, screening, and incendiary purposes. White Phosphorus can be used to destroy the enemy's equipment or to limit his vision. It is used against vehicles, petroleum, oils and lubricants (POL) and ammunition storage areas, and enemy observers. WP can be used as an aid in target location and navigation. It is usually dispersed by explosive munitions. It can be fired with fuze time to obtain an airburst. White phosphorus was used most often during World War II in military formulations for smoke screens, marker shells, incendiaries, hand grenades, smoke markers, colored flares, and tracer bullets.

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Originally posted by Harlequin
reply to post by GamerGal

 

apparntly you can`t read

MSNBC called you a LIAR

they never broadcast what you claim , not now , not saturday or anytime.

so stop posting LIES.

No, you said MSNBC never had video of it. I also said they didn't. You keep saying there is then asking me for links. I, and MSNBC, keep telling you there is no video. It was simply a man on a phone talking about what he saw as tanks rolled in too Gaza. He was a witness too the tanks. He was a witness too the Hamas reaction. Edit to add. Here is Hamas shooting people in the knees. www.youtube.com... they did it before, no surprise they did it again.

[edit on 6-1-2009 by GamerGal]

reply to post by Harlequin


How can you claim that GamerGal is posting LIES! When in fact that GamerGal has shown you the truth.

Could we please stop feeding the troll? It's pretty obvious that her opinion is pure fact and any factual evidence you try and provide is just hogwash.. I am seriously convinced at this point that this person is taking the term human shield too literally as if HAMAS is actually using babies as armor or something how ridiculous can you be? I'm sorry but Gaza is not that big of an area and anywhere they decide to hide would be considered civilian territory. I guess you expect HAMAS to run into the middle of the streets and say "here I am! come blow me up!"

reply to post by jheated7


A baby suit? While creative I doubt would work. But Hamas does the next best thing, hide in their homes. So when Hamas is attacked, the baby dies. Before Israel would usually not strike because of the human shields. This time they are going all out.

reply to post by GamerGal


the first thing i ever asked for was PROOF behind your claim

, just as in other threads you demand proof from other posters.

yet you have in 50 replies failed to provide any proof other than ` i saw it on tv therefore its true`

i phoned MSNBC who then said , they never broadcast , on there TV station , what you claimed.

i repeat what they said rather a few times


and yet you carry on AFTER MSNBC have said they never broadcast it.


you supply no proof, video , tape recording or ANY proof other than your word, and MSNBC say they never broadcast what you claim.


yet you carry on trying for the LIE

simple - MSNBC called you a LIAR. so quit trying to spread a LIE.

Originally posted by gordonwest
reply to post by Harlequin

 

How can you claim that GamerGal is posting LIES! When in fact that GamerGal has shown you the truth.

MSNBC never broadcast what gamergal claimed they did, phone them yourself - the number for the TODAY show is a few pages back.


so she is a LIAR.

reply to post by GamerGal


supply evidence that HAMAS are using babies as shields.

reply to post by Harlequin


First you said video, then said show, then you said MSNBC never aired the video, now you're changing your story again. I doubt you ever called them. Do you really think they never talked too some one on the phone? That right there should show the BS. I simply reported what I saw, an interview with a guy on the phone. You asked for video of what he reported. I told you there was none. You claim MSNBC told you the same thing but your story has changed so much I doubt you called them.

reply to post by Raustin


if israel use it for `screening` when airburst at 200 feet , they can then claim there not targetting civilians - and anyone injured is by accident...

reply to post by Harlequin


Every time one dies. If Hamas met them on the battlefield there would be no civillian deaths. When America fought the NAZIs in trenches how many babies died? None because there were two armies fighting each other on a battlefield. Hamas refuses too fight and instead hides behind civillians. I need to get going, real life comes.

[edit on 6-1-2009 by GamerGal]

Ok I have a question.... Is there anyway you can provide a link to this phone conversation on MSNBC because I'd really like to hear it as well, I'm sure a recorded call that claims throwing children under tanks would be headline news but I've never heard of it before today.

Originally posted by Harlequin
reply to post by Raustin

 

a small minor detail is that if you directly target civilians then in fact WP is illegal iunder protocol 3 of the CCWC.

So you freely admit the Hamas targeting of civilians is illegal..............

Why don't you ever directly post that the Hamas target civilians are the ones breaking international treaties.

Yeah, I know, Hamas terrorists need not follow any rules, only the people they attack.

reply to post by Harlequin

And you still haven't quoted me saying there was video of it, because I never said there was.

How can you say that GamerGal claim of it, even when GamerGal said there never was. Scroll Up and read. I am just posting what posters have posted.

reply to post by GamerGal


its a shame you are a troll and paid for for this - MSNBC called you a LIAR and you carry on tring to spread your LIE.

by attempting to use the play on words for VIDEO you are attempting to detract from the issue that you LIED.

gamergal you claimed that palestinians were shooting children in the knees and throwing them under a tank

your only `proof` is that you watched it on TV.

you cannot supply any recording of this from any source.

so the only evidence you can supply is your word.

i called MSNBC on the number supplied a few pages back and MSNBC have said they never broadcast what you claimed.

i even suggest anyone can call them and they will say the same thing

why do you lie?