Israeli tank column enters Gaza: witness

reply to post by GamerGal


What you are doing is in vane.Nothing that you will do will change anything.The West, leaders, people are condemning Israel.
Blocking the rights to journalists and reporters to go in to Gaza will just put gas on fire and make it worst.The only ones blocking the resolution so it will not pass are the warmongers that started war after war covered by lies.It's Bush and his minions.Baby eaters.
How does it feel to not be able to change anything? No one believe you,
there are a lot of people here on ATS that are open minded, and balanced
but you seem to convince none of them.
If you support baby eaters then you are no different, who gathers together is alike and the same.Pray this will be over soon, the damage to the image of Israel will be far worst in the end, the sooner the better.
I'm sorry to tell you this, but you are a troll.It's apparently legal to lie on ATS and not against the rules, if it were a rule you would have been long gone.Here on this forum I have respect for other people that happen to have other views, other than mine, I have none for you.

[edit on 6-1-2009 by pepsi78]

reply to post by Mdv2


Turn the Television on to any news channel and watch. I can't be there to turn your television on and change the channel too a news channel. Right now? Shells slammed in to Gaza, with footage of buildings blown up, people running away, and now a Israeli helicopter firing missiles! Now tanks, and hummer armored vehicles. Watch the news.

reply to post by pepsi78


In vain? Maybe. But I won't sit here and let people outright lie about this. Especially since some have admitted they hate ALL Jews. "Give me a reason to like them?" Page 2, very bottom, www.abovetopsecret.com...

It's perfectly possible for Israel try and censor the media and it's possible for them to fail, that's what's happening in this situation.

Yes Israel has attempted to stifle the media, this was reported by the BBC. Supposedly there is footage coming out of Gaza, I haven't seen any myself yet.

reply to post by GamerGal


you have been caught attempting to subvert this wesbite by attempting to perpetuate a lie - a lie which has been found out. MSNBC did not show anything related to children being shot and thrown under tanks on there TV station.

you said , on at least 25 occasions they did.

you are a LIAR.

reply to post by Harlequin


You still can't quote me saying there was video of that. You keep saying I did, but I didn't, and you can't quote me as saying it because I never did. I said, on MSNBC, there was a guy reporting what he saw. Never said there was video. So you keep sitting there screaming for a video I never said existed.

Originally posted by GamerGal
reply to post by Mdv2

 

Turn the Television on to any news channel and watch. I can't be there to turn your television on and change the channel too a news channel. Right now? Shells slammed in to Gaza, with footage of buildings blown up, people running away, and now a Israeli helicopter firing missiles! Now tanks, and hummer armored vehicles. Watch the news.

I want to see Israeli soldiers fighting hamas, not shells slamming into Gaza. Please show it to me. If this is so openly reported as you say there surely must be some footage on Youtube for you to show me. I hope you will find some, because A Dutch Israeli reporter yesterday spoke on TV with Israeli journalists who went embedded in 2006 and are now angered that their government doesn't allow them to go in and report. If you think that's all nonsense, show me what I requested.

reply to post by Harlequin


Oh man please don't start that back up again. Quit taking the bait guys, it's not going to get resolved, you will never agree. Just ignore each other or something.

Wanted to add: GamerGal, they are not letting new journalists into the region, that is what is being said. You need to stop arguing that point, no one agrees with you because they actually pay attention.

[edit on 6-1-2009 by Raustin]

reply to post by GamerGal


did i say viedo? NO

i CALLED MSNBC , as anyone can and asked them

i asked them:

did you report children being shot in the knees and thrown under tanks on saturdday between 4pm and 5pm

they said

NO


MSNBC have not heard the LIE you are trying to push

nothing to do with any video - the TV station you claim to have watched it on haven`t heard anything about it.

you are a LIAR.

Originally posted by Raustin
reply to post by Harlequin

 

Oh man please don't start that back up again. Quit taking the bait guys, it's not going to get resolved, you will never agree. Just ignore each other or something.

im sorry its just very bloody annoying - when MSNBC says she`s lying and yet she still tries to peddle the same damn thing, the tv station say they never broadcast any interview (phone or otherwise) about children being shot and thrown under tanks.

[edit on 6/1/09 by Harlequin]

Originally posted by Harlequin
MSNBC did not show anything related to children being shot and thrown under tanks on there TV station.

you said , on at least 25 occasions they did.

you are a LIAR.

Show? How do you show something without video? A video I, and MSNBC, say doesn't exist. You're the one calling for a video that I, and MSNBC, say don't exist. Too Raustin, why do you need more there? They have plenty as it is. I can turn too any channel and watch it live. I can watch a helicopter fire missiles as tanks roll in. Mdv2, I want pictures of American troops battling terrorists in the middle of the desert. What? There isn't any? But they don't have a media blackout in Iraq do they? Edit too add, come on Harl, show where I say there is the video you keep demanding.

[edit on 6-1-2009 by GamerGal]

reply to post by GamerGal


you claimed

www.abovetopsecret.com...

On televison now! The Palestinians tried to slow the tanks down by grabbing their own children, shooting them in the knees, and throwing them in front of the tanks!

and

MSNBC was talking to a corespondant on the ground. he was describing what he was seeing.

i phoned MSNBC and asked them - they said they never shown anything like that on there TV station. ever.

MSNBC never broadcast what you made up.

edit:

i haven`t been asking about any video - i phoned msnbc and they said they never broadcast on there tv station what you claimed to have seen.

phone them yourself , or in fact anyone can since i put the number in the threa allready.

did i ask for a video? no i am saying MSNBC are calling you out.


[edit on 6/1/09 by Harlequin]

reply to post by Harlequin


"MSNBC was talking to a corespondant on the ground. he was describing what he was seeing." Me

Again, no video of it. Just a guy on the phone describing what he saw. Sorry there is no video of what he saw. I, and MSNBC, have told you now multiple times there is no video of it. Just a guy on a phone reporting what he sees.

reply to post by GamerGal


apparantly you can`t understand


no video , never broadcast , msnbc don`t know what your talking about , as it never happened


you are a liar.

you made it up - msnbc have said it didn`t happen.

please read carefully -

MSNBC did not have any interview on the phone with anyone who claimed to be watching children being shot in the knees and thrown under a tank.

they didn`t broadcast anything and have never heard of it till now.

anyone can phone MSNBC and they`ll say the same thing


i have not been asking for a video - just any proof that its true

but msnbc say its not true as they didn`t have the interview you edscribe.

[edit on 6/1/09 by Harlequin]

reply to post by GamerGal


There are a number of reasons I want more journalists in the area.

1.) May deter Israel from committing atrocities.

2.) May deter biased sources from claiming Israel is committing atrocities (remember the bombing video?) which actually may benefit your argument.

3.) I want to be able to get as much news as possible.

Why would you NOT want more journalists in the area? I realize we are getting info and video from those who are already there but I would like more sources. There is no real reason Israel should bar more journalists from entering the area.

Originally posted by Harlequin
reply to post by GamerGal

 

apparantly you can`t understand


no video , never broadcast , msnbc don`t know what your talking about , as it never happened

[edit on 6/1/09 by Harlequin]

Uh, you just said what I, and MSNBC, have been trying to tell you. There is no video of it but you keep going on about how I said they "showed" it and ask for the video of it. I, and MSNBC, are trying too explain to you that there is no video of it. Just a guy on the phone reporting what he saw.

reply to post by GamerGal


no guy on the phone - MSNBC have never heard of it , they never had the interview , they have never heard of any child being shot and thrown under a tank

your the only one going on and on about a video

why are you making it up?

msnbc have called you out - they never had any interview or broadcast anything you describe.

edit:

`showed` as in the showed it on TV , you know like all the other things that are being reported and being shown on tv

now your playing with words which , being honest is just sad.

[edit on 6/1/09 by Harlequin]

Originally posted by Raustin
reply to post by GamerGal

 

There are a number of reasons I want more journalists in the area.

1.) May deter Israel from committing atrocities.

2.) May deter biased sources from claiming Israel is committing atrocities (remember the bombing video?) which actually may benefit your argument.

3.) I want to be able to get as much news as possible.

Why would you NOT want more journalists in the area? I realize we are getting info and video from those who are already there but I would like more sources. There is no real reason Israel should bar more journalists from entering the area.

May? Depends on your definition of atrocity. Killing Hamas, no matter where they hide or attack from? I wouldn't call that an atrocity. Yes it sucks they kill civillians, but the civillians should be fighting along side the IDF to throw Hamas out! And it may deter biased sources, like the bombing video, but do you think any one who hates Israel cares? And why not more news people? More civillians that may be killed, by either side. Those brave news people to sit there and point out the troops marching behind them as a helicopter flies overhead and fires missiles are crazy and could be killed by a misfire, or by Hamas targeting them.

reply to post by Harlequin


Wait, first you say "MSNBC never heard of the video!" then "MSNBC said they never showed the video!" then "MSNBC never heard of this video being aired." then "MSNBC never showed anything like that!" Now its "MSNBC says they never interviewed anyone on a phone." So... who's lying? or did you make a dozen calls changing the question every time? Edit Thinking about it, you keep changing your story. Have any proof you called MSNBC?

[edit on 6-1-2009 by GamerGal]

Harlequin, enough already. Stop spewing poo all the time. GamerGal has kept on explaining to you about the facts. Please, stop with the nonesence and start understanding.

Originally posted by Harlequin
reply to post by GamerGal

 

apparantly you can`t understand


no video , never broadcast , msnbc don`t know what your talking about , as it never happened


you are a liar.

you made it up - msnbc have said it didn`t happen.

please read carefully -

MSNBC did not have any interview on the phone with anyone who claimed to be watching children being shot in the knees and thrown under a tank.

they didn`t broadcast anything and have never heard of it till now.

anyone can phone MSNBC and they`ll say the same thing


i have not been asking for a video - just any proof that its true

but msnbc say its not true as they didn`t have the interview you edscribe.

[edit on 6/1/09 by Harlequin]