Meltdown: Stephen Haseler

Meltdown: How the 'Masters of the Universe' Destroyed the West's Power and Prosperity, is certain to create controversy. It tells the full story, as dramatic as it is frightening, of how over two decades the West’s leaders - the financiers on Wall Street and the politicians in Washington (with elements in the City of London in tow) - destroyed their people’s prosperity and stability. It shows how greed and irresponsibility took hold during the 1990s, but argues that it was the era’s political leaders - from Bill Clinton to George Bush to Tony Blair - who are ultimately responsible. He shows how they allowed and encouraged the mortgage debt disaster now afflicting the middle class; how they nurtured a super-rich global elite, shorn of any sense of accountability, to go in search of low costs in Asia, thus destroying wealth and jobs in the West.

Meltdown tells a classic tale of hubris - of how the West’s elites, having won the Cold War against communism in the late 1980s, allowed the victory to go to their heads. They sought to remake the world through both soft and hard power - starting in the 1990s through economic ‘globalisation’, ‘free trade’ and ‘free markets’, and, under George Bush after 9/11, through the barrel of a gun in Iraq

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Not really a surprise to those of us who have been watching, Whats new gets my blood going is the reference to a socialist west.

It seem that as the former and present communist countries move towards free market economies the west is more and more headed for socialism. Interesting when you consider todays auto bailout in the states.

I will getting my copy at the local bookstore that and a few others I've learned about here at ATS.

And for another perspective.

[edit on 19-12-2008 by SLAYER69]

Another good video I like his reference to a " New World Coming "

I'm almost afraid to ask what does he mean " To handle whats coming"

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Now that is a conspiracy!

Originally posted by SLAYER69
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Now that is a conspiracy!

What is there to say really? The videos are informative but this is really nothing more than we already know here at ATS.

What scares the bejesus out of me is that the contry just handed over complete and total control of the government to the bastards that are mostly responsible for the goddamn mess we are in. Remember the CRA? We are up S*#t creek without a paddle and we are about to go over the falls!

Originally posted by LiquidMirage
just handed over complete and total control of the government to the bastards that are mostly responsible for the goddamn mess we are in. Remember the CRA?

yeah I do but what is even scarrier is now that the US and the west are in decline because of this, there will develop a multi-polar world with India and China making some major shots for the world it was bad enough to have two nuclear powers at odds, now you'll have 4 or possibly 5 at odds.

Now what that will lead to is an unstable world and it will be more likely not less likely of some sort of nuclear exchange!

Originally posted by SLAYER69
yeah I do but what is even scarrier is now that the US and the west are in decline because of this, there will develop a multi-polar world with India and China making some major shots for the world it was bad enough to have two nuclear powers at odds, now you'll have 4 or possibly 5 at odds.

Now what that will lead to is an unstable world and it will be more likely not less likely of some sort of nuclear exchange!

Yeah I know a lot of people think China will take the U.S.'s place as the preeminent world power but I just don't see it happening for the following reasons:

1.) Population - With China's population being the worlds largest and their economy expected to be on par with the U.S. economy within the next 20 to 30 years they are still a dirt poor country. Right now the U.S. economy is around 14 trillion dollars with some estimates putting China's economy as large as half of ours, or 7 trillion dollars. Even if their economy was equal to ours today they still have 4 times our population to distribute it over. Imagine when their agent of "change" rises to power promising to "spread the wealth". That will be like trying to use a stick of butter to butter a piece of bread the size of a football field! India is in a far worse situation than China...enough said.

2.) Population - With China's population being the worlds largest and spending the past several decades living in squalor, the communist regime that controls China fears economic slowdown the most. Over the past 20 years or so, China's economy and standard of living has been steadily increasing which has appeased the people that have been living in deplorable conditions for many years. If the Chinese economy begins to falter the people will become discontent and likely throw the country into a meltdown.

3.) Population - With China's population being the worlds largest and its horrible recorded of human rights abuses, people will eventually figure out that they are sick and tired of living under the rule of iron fisted leadership and will revolt in some fashion. The liberties that we in the western world take for granted are only a distant dream in China with the communists still in power. It's only a matter of time before "change" comes to China and with 1.3 billion people, it won't be pretty.

4.) Population - With China's population being the worlds largest they can produce all of the worlds products and still have labor left over. They work for peanuts and keep pumping out widgets day and night, nonstop. But what good is cheap labor and mass production if nobody can afford to buy their cheap plastic crap? Without the U.S. consumer, among the rest of the world, China's economy will quickly tank and you already know what that means (see point # 2).

People tend to view China as an unstoppable force because of its massive population. But while a declining population, such as in Japan and parts of Western Europe, can be detrimental to a countries survival as a world power; so too can over population. China will, without a doubt, become very powerful but will never reach the level of power the U.S. has enjoyed. Eventually its ace card will prove to be its # 1 weakness and it will collapse under the weight of its own people. History is on my side of the argument.

Sorry if I got of topic but I still think its relevent.

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What's been happening the last 25 years is a rightward tilt not a leftist movement. Creeping Fascism is a better tag than 'socialism'. Government run by and for elites and corporations = fascism. You can see it now with the bailouts of the scum on Wall Street that caused this mess.

But what some see as a possible threat from China is a swap in which power other smaller countries may want to follow they may turn their back on western style democracy in favor of a modified Chinese sociolist style Government since they are not up to their necks in national debt and bankruptcy

They may model themselves on them and we loose influence and economic power

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Originally posted by SLAYER69
They may model themselves on them and we loose enfluence and economic power

The questions that interesting me are:
Influence about what? What you want to do with that influence?
Economic power to do what?

The problem I see is the what USA have done with such power is not that good.