Aids and Gays

Thank the good Lord that we have a place to voice our opinions without being ignored.
This post has to do with why, with all the evidence of govt/foundation complicity in the aids pandemic,there has been no real investigation by the gay community on this matter.

If this thread gets any attention I will add what IU have learned.

The question is why those most endangered seem to have no idea of what aids really is. No harm meant.



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Read the story of Audrey Serrano. She was misdiagnosed as HIV + and was placed on AIDS medications. Surprisingly she developed AIDS like symptoms.

False Positive Woman Wins 2.5 Million

The complaint by Audrey Serrano, 45, in court hearings this week in Worcester, Mass., focuses on the absence of a “confirmatory” Western Blot test in her records. However, Andrew Maniotis, Ph.D., research assistant professor in the Department of Pathology, University of Illinois-Chicago School of Medicine, contends that, though the reliability of all HIV testing is not on trial in court here, the case history opens questions about it.

And, because Serrano developed illnesses commonly defined as “AIDS-related conditions” only after taking HIV medications known as “highly active antiretroviral therapy” (HAART), the drugs themselves appear to have caused “AIDS.

One of the early drugs to treat AIDS was the drug AZT which had this warning label..

"WARNING: RETROVIR (ZIDOVUDINE) [=AZT] MAY BE ASSOCIATED WITH HEMATOLOGIC TOXICITY INCLUDING GRANULOCYTOPENIA AND SEVERE ANEMIA PARTICULARLY IN PATIENTS WITH ADVANCED HIV DISEASE (SEE WARNINGS).
PROLONGED USE OF RETROVIR [=AZT] HAS BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH SYMPTOMATIC MYOPATHY SIMILAR TO THAT PRODUCED BY HUMAN IMMUNODEFICIENCY VIRUS. RARE OCCURRENCES OF LACTIC ACIDOSIS IN THE ABSENCE OF HYPOXEMIA, AND SEVERE HEPATOMEGALY WITH STEATOSIS HAVE BEEN REPORTED WITH THE USE OF ANTIRETROVIRAL NUCLEOSIDE ANALOGUES, INCLUDING RETROVIR AND ZALCITABINE, AND ARE POTENTIALLY FATAL (SEE WARNINGS)."

In other words AZT causes AIDS like symptoms.
The other drugs in AIDS cocktails (HAART) are just about as nasty as AZT.

As always believe and do as you see fit for your own health.


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This issue has to do with the depopulation agenda in general.
My point originally was why the gay community has no interest in finding out what its all about.
Could be a suicidal tendency.
Don't know........ places to look are.. Henry Kissinger,Club of Rome, rockefeller foundation..agenda 21..bertrand russel ...aldous huxley...educate-yourself.org...

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In all things it is money! That is how many gay charities and such receive funding by spreading AIDS memorabilia. Such as the Gay and Lesbian center nearby receive Government funding for "Aids Education".

If a gay magazine releases such education they too get funding.

Most of the gay population doesn't know of this information and it isn't reported in the MSM because hospitals, doctors, and drug companies also make killer profits off treating someone for AIDS for a short lifetime.


Also from Women: The Face Of Aids In Africa

3/4 of AIDS cases in Africa are women
The majority in the US are gay men

Why does this "disease" have different agendas in other Countries and spread differently?

Nice Link.



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If this site had more people that cared about life itself everyone would know that aids was created to kill people.
There is lots of evidence.
There is lots of disinfo.
What is scary is that the gay community may have avoided the truth so as not to stir things up..... funding and all could be a part of it.

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Well I will agree to that much is funding, misinformation and denial that immunity suppressive drugs like amyl and butyl nitrites (aka poppers) also contribute to sickness. What is strange is that if you pick up a gay magazine these are sometimes even encouraged on the front cover.

I am gay, but I don't support everything the gay community does. Nobody even thinks to question what has been told for so many years. If one does they are labeled just as other topics on this website a certified nut.

So basically one is tested for antibodies for HIV. They have antibodies and are put on highly destructive medications immediately. That is the new plan.

Antibodies...hrm lol.


More info on poppers....
Research shows that volatile nitrite inhalation damages the body's immune system by suppressing the activity of cells needed for protection against diseases. Specifically, nitrite inhalation has led to a depletion of the body's helper T-cells, agents necessary for a fully functioning immune system.

It is also wording even with these drugs. In AIDS literature the nitrates are listed, poppers (common name) however are not as they are believed to be just a "harmless party drug".




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You must have seen some of the depopulation info that is out there.
Aids is really much more of a problem in Africa where the aids virus was given to people in a smallpox virus.
That's where tens of billions of bill gates' money went..also warren buffet.

Its one of those things, like dead iraqis, that none wants to know about.

"Why worry about something that could kill you in 10 years when there are so many things that could kill you tomorrow". I hate to quote a movie(Lord of War), but it sums up human nature pretty well. Take one part desperation, add one part sexual drive, a pinch of ignorance and H.I.V, bake for a few decades and you get a perfect depopulation.

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What a pointless, ignorant question. Firstly what makes you think the gay community has no idea about aids? also what makes you think gays are most at risk? just look at Africa!
stupid thread - and no i am not gay.

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Well I haven't read about the smallpox vaccine thing. I'll have to look that up.

I did however read where several common illnesses were reclassified in Africa as AIDS. Pneumonia, Diarrhea (from poor sanitation). Nobody wants to send big $ for fighting diarrhea but, AIDS yes of course!

Here is a recent article from the "rethinking Aids website."
Top Scientists Demand Retraction On AIDS papers

It is clear that the seminal research published on HIV contained unjustified claims and alterations. In 1993, governmental investigators determined Gallo had so poorly recorded his key and much-cited experiment that it was impossible to repeat and verify it

Originally posted by toochaos4u
3/4 of AIDS cases in Africa are women
The majority in the US are gay men

Why does this "disease" have different agendas in other Countries and spread differently?

This can be explained by social structures.

Africa is generally more religiously driven, the people there have been told over and over by the Christian church that birth control is wrong.
This caused the main issues with the spreading of HIV/Aids in the late 80's and long into the 90's.

Also, in the USA, women hold a lot more power than in Africa. Culturally, African women are still not the ones making decisions about these things.
Education on sexual issues is more of a taboo in Africa, and homosexuality is less acceptable there due to prevalence of religion.

IMO all this adds up to the statistical differences.

As for why people don't consider the HIV/Aids thing in the way suggested...
The same reason that the majority still think this financial crisis isn't anything to really worry about. Denial, lack of interest, inability to comprehend...
Most people don't go looking for answers, they're not really curious about anything, they just accept what they see on the nightly news (if they even bother to watch that).

The general population really are just a herd, they are a mass of ignorance and stupidity. They are very easily distracted and lied to, as we all know.

When god made man out of dirt he blew in a special rock that waited until to much gayness flourished.

Then god said thou shall be infected with AIDS!

Then JESUS spared a crippled leper of a painful ear infection!

There will be no Heterosexual AIDS epedemic

WHO confesses to 25 years of misguided AIDS policies. But they still want you to believe them.

How is “AIDS” diagnosed in Africa? AIDS in Africa is and has always been a clinical diagnosis. It is here too, but we’re more attached to a process of testing, which is, in essence, illusory, because the tests are limited to use in certain groups, for whom the non-specific tests are said to have a “higher positive predictive value,” or to be “more accurate.” But in Africa, this is dispensed with entirely, and “AIDS” is diagnosed based on the symptoms of hunger, thirst, TB and malaria – in other words, poverty.

“But if the same test was performed on 1,000 white, affluent suburban housewives – a low-prevalence population – in all likelihood all positive results will be false, and positive predictive values plummet to zero. (Coming to Your Clinic – Candidates for Rapid Tests. AIDS Alert, 1998)