Policeman Saw 600-Foot-Diameter Aerial Craft Over Stephenville Court House

reply to post by LordThumbs

happy holidays easy.

on a second note, its more my style of ufo research to base it on testemony. getting caught up in the CGI talk or the scientific data talk really does me no good. and respectively you will find that those who are so quick to get vulgar/erupt over the CGI or scientific stuff like..eh hemm (insert most vulgar annoying debunking/skeptic ATS member here________) will not really join in on the discussion thus leaving this thread rather bare or possibly 'unpopular' its the real cases that hold weight which inspire the skeptics/debunkers to think of new catch phrases or tricks.

well thanks Lord Thumbs and Happy Holidays to you also

i agree with you that the most important evidence usually comes from the witness testimony because as we both know any picture or trace evidence will be disputed for all of ATS eternity and it gets quite silly after a while.

i do take into consideration all evidence provided but because of the above statement i have been focusing my attention on what the witnesses say about the sighting. obviously a witness can or could lie about something like this but there are so many reports like this that i have to conclude that some or most are not making things like this up ...so were does that leave us ? it leaves me with the realization that UFO are real but we still don't know who is driving them.

also i am seeing some doubters posting already and the military card has already been played....too funny

(insert most vulgar annoying debunking/skeptic ATS member here________)

hmmm...wonder who that could be ?

use your mind to signal it!!!!!!!!!

Lord thumbs...another fantastic post as always...I enjoy very much your material. a couple of thoughts for the interested out there who follow issues of this nature....first, I believe it is wise to take a conservative approach than a guilable one when dealing with UFO sightings. I think we would all agree that most sightings would fall into the mistaken identity, military craft and yes, (gasp) outright lying.

that being said, for those who have read this thread and consumed and digested the material should not dismiss the testimony as outright lies simply because it is the testimony of individuals who wish not to make their name public. If you look at human nature from a socio/scientific perspective...you'll see that it is very rare that people "hallucinate" in groups.....now, they are more likely to lie in groups, BUT, they key here in the Stephensville incidents, is that these people who are giving almost identical stories, but the don't know each other. From a socio/scientific perpsective, that is almost unheard of.

So when people say this rather large group of citizens who don't know each other are lying....I find it very hard to buy into that argument.

Great thread, thanks for posting it.

I am a bit confused by the strobe lights though. These in our world are for anti collision purposes and typically are red on top, white on bottom, a solid red light on the port (left) side, and a solid green on starboard (right) so that other plots can identify the attitude and direction of the other craft. I cannot understand what purpose these would serve on an alien craft. I would suggest that perhaps these were landscape lighting like you see on radio towers and tall structures that blended in with the craft in the night sky. I am not trying to discredit the story in no way as it would be hard for any person especially a police officer to mistake something 600 feet in diameter in the air, but at the same time with something that big strobes in the landscape might easily be mistaken as part of the craft the same is true with the towers as I really don't see any meaningful purpose for those other than perhaps a communications array of some sort and it would not need to be that large no matter where it was sending communications to as there is little to no friction in space and the signal would not need to be amplified or a large receiver as would be necessary in our atmosphere. Most undoubtedly if they needed to communicate they would rise above our atmosphere as to avoid our interception of their communique.

I just like to remind people that although we should thank LordThumbs for giving this topic more exposure here at ATS, we shouldn't forget that, as he/she has already stated, the content of this post has been created by Linda Moulton Howe and is available on her site www.earthfiles.com...

Linda has spent years of research in the UFO community and has literally hundreds of interviews and testimonies on her site. I have been regularly visiting her site for years as I find her style of research well informed and mostly unbiased.

In terms of the anecdotal evidence presented here, although its a weak source of evidence as itself, it should not be dismissed. It is alleged that several other witnesses also reported the incidents to MUFON. If we can obtain statements from these witnesses along with proof of the officer's credentials, then the story gains a great deal more credibility. However if the evidence remains as it stands, it will soon be forgotten upon the pile of hundreds of other UFO reports based only upon the word of eye witnesses only.

reply to post by easynow


I admit I do not know. It is the fact it seems to be reoccurring and the accounts of harassment by those reporting. The proximity to bases is interesting also.

I could well be wrong. I tend to think when people label something Alien because it moves differently than known aircraft is not reasonable. Who knows how unknown secret military craft move?

I actually hope some are Alien in origin. I am skeptical by nature, not because I don't accept they could exist.

Possibly military ?

Olive colour - could be co-incidence. Strobe lights - could also. No military intervention - starts to stretch. No physical anomalies associated with close encounters and no actual visibly observed out of this world flight characteristics, evidence points that way.

What and why - who knows. The similarity to Stephenville and other sightings though is striking.

Are we observing the military's cryptic messaging to someone - Bush even ?

I have no theories, just putting it out there !

Edited to add - in fact with no sound and with some witnesses believing they could see through it is this some kind of lighter than air lifting platform with transluscent sections and some form of electromagnetic propulsion. Pure speculation obviously, however just add some big lights that can be turned on and off and it's a close fit to the witness testimony.
Why is also open to pure speculation !

[edit on 18-12-2008 by chunder]

This Stephenville cop has been on Coast to Coast AM and the Kevin Smith show talking about what he saw. I find him to be most credible.

My question is: If this huge craft was "ours" then why the hell would they fly something like that over the Stephenville court house in the middle of town?

reply to post by ufo reality


Maybe they didn't mean to ?

Or maybe they did so they can read about it in this forum ?

A lot of the officers think it’s some kind of military craft.

Bingo!

Finally a quote that proves not all cops are dimwitted. Even the images of the craft look like some kind of human designed craft.



There are what look like antenna’s, lights just like what any aircraft would have and windows…not very alien like



[edit on 18-12-2008 by andre18]

Why do these HAVE to be from another world? Why couldn't they be all around us? I think they are cloaked craft flying around earth. Occasionally their cloaking power if off for whatever reason... low power, malfunction, someone forgot to turn it on.
Just wondering why this could not be the reason.
Anything is possible.

eh. never mind.

[edit on 12/19/2008 by greeneyedleo]

You people know that FAA radar data was found to support the Stephenville sightings, right? So it's more than just two people saying they saw something.

reply to post by GrayFox

Are radar returns recorded? If so, for how long? Are they archived? Can they be accessed by the general public?

I think they got it from FOIA requests. Not completely sure though.

It's available on Mufon's website.
www.mufon.com...

reply to post by greeneyedleo


*Officer walks up to pulled over alien craft*

"Boy, do you have any idea how fast you were going?"

*Alien blinks*

"Say, you boys ain't from around here are ya?"

Sorry, I just saw your post about him getting it with the radar gun and couldn't help myself! Interesting thread and a good read.

As a single case it doesn't really prove anything, but my idea has always been that once you start piecing all the stories, pictures, radar evidence, etc, together, it paints a picture that is much more indicative of what is really going on.

I think those of us who tend to be more skeptical like going with the 'military craft' hypothesis because it allows them to admit that these objects are capable of advanced feats of aviation, while still keeping their perceived dignity in tact; not expressly admitting that 'all' of these craft are piloted by ET.

While I agree with them to an extent, that is, I'm fairly certain our own government has engineered these craft (in all likelihood, reversely), There are also cases that make me think that some of these craft are piloted by species other than our own, namely, the battle of Los Angeles. I think we can all agree that was not one of OUR (The US) advanced craft, and highly unlikely to be from another country either. So where does that leave us?

So to tie it all together, how about a little mood music-

"You boys take it easy meow, ya hear?"

See what I did there?

God bless us, everyone.

reply to post by DarrylGalasso


maybe the lights were for the benefit of the driver. after all,there were supposed to be windows on the 2nd ship.
to me that would indicate that it was manned.
the first one was not agressive and had no windows visible. the 2nd one was agressive,seemed from the description,that it was flying "tight",with being close to the pole and following the pickup.

this craft has been sighted up and down the front range here in CO from Denver to northern NM.

Originally posted by andre18

A lot of the officers think it’s some kind of military craft.

There are what look like antenna’s, lights just like what any aircraft would have and windows…not very alien like

[edit on 18-12-2008 by andre18]

Military, perhaps.

Although not necessarily any Terrestrial military.



If physical laws are "universal", who's to say that the underlying mathematics which explain those physical laws do not Also apply to the Logic which governs decisions regarding design and tactical operation?



I say, IF these renderings truly represent what was observed, and if those observations are to be taken at face value...


What can we infer about these "visitors", by inference, from their design easthetic?



Has anyone even considered the significance of the fact that this craft, by eschewing the iconic "saucer"-shape, might indicate that it is but one segment of a far larger "modular assembly"?


Its regular, rectangular shape would easily allow it to be configured, with other craft of its kind, into a multitude of shapes; perhaps forming an interstellar "colony" of crafts.



Stop arguing about whether its real or not.

If it isn't, then it is of no consequence.


If it Is "real", then try to learn as much as you can from every detail availible. It's just possible that the internal logic implied by the details of the observation might go farther toward proving or disproving the reality than the witnesses could have imagined.

reply to post by Blaine91555


thanks for the reply because i was wondering if i was missing something in the story that was making you lean in the direction of a Military explanation.

so we are on the same page then...cool