Microsoft faces new Xbox 360 reliability accusations

I remeber when i first got the "red ring of death" on my XBOX within the first year.
I was shocked,P.O,and dissapointed.
So I called Microsoft and had it sent in and fixed for free.
And a "sorry".They told me they hadnt heard of this happening before.
Riiiiiiight moths later it was in the news that Microsoft knowingly shipped these consoles out deffective.

Prior to my XBOX 360 commiting suicide,it redecorated my F.E.A.R game,with a pretty ring around it.(Scratched to all hell)
I didnt know what to think about it when it occured,but now that this is out,I finally get it.

Microsoft didnt care what they sent out.Anything for a buck.
And they do it on the backs of us consumers.

They should be fined or something,or everyone who got one of these cheap things should recieve a year of free online service,or at least a free game.

Hell I still have my original Atari and Nintendo for the 80's,and they both still work!!

A multi billion dollar company has zero wiggle room to get away with knowingly screwing over the people who spend their hard earned money for this crap.
Microsoft is begging for a class action law suit.

Damn you Microsoft!

(End Rant)

(Yahoo.com)-Remember last week's story about Jason Johnson, the Illinois man who sued Microsoft over his Xbox 360's alleged habit of scratching his game DVDs?

Documents unsealed in his court case revealed Microsoft discovered its Xbox 360 could scratch discs before it went on sale in 2005, and even got as far as considering three possible solutions to the problem, the Seattle Tech Report revealed today.

The characteristic circular scratches can occur whenever the orientation of the console -- which is designed to be used in either a horizontal or vertical position -- is changed while the drive is spinning. Johnson filed his suit after his console scratched three store-bought game discs, and is seeking $50,000 in punitive damages.

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Once again, a PS3 Original Xbox combo is far better then the Crap 360. Microsoft has admitted multiple times that the Crap 360 is a busted POS.

reply to post by GamerGal


lol, at least you aren't biased.

reply to post by Karlhungis


Microsoft admitted that the RROD was a sure thing and extended all the warrenties. Now? They admit that the Crap 360 WILL 100% of the time scratch your discs. A PS3 and Original Xbox gets you the best of both worlds with out the Crap 360 bursting in to flames burning your house down after scratching every DVD you own, which are now burnt pieces of trash.

I've never had a problem with my xbox 360, no red ring of death nor have any discs been scratched. I'm happy with the console.

Firstly, there are warnings not to move it while it's spinning.
I had RROD and got it back within 2 weeks with free month online.
No disc scratches because I saw the warnings.
And no-one sells any X-box original games any more.

I've had my 360 for over 3 years now. I got my first RROD a few weeks ago. I was able to fix it by myself. I have never had a problem with scratched discs. If you like playing games, which is what a video game console should be all about, the 360 is a good machine.

Every day I grow more and more happy that I chose to go with the PS3.

I've never had any problems with scratched discs or the red ring of death either. Of course we've only had our 360 for a little over a year so maybe the RROD just hasn't happened yet, and we know better than to move the console while it's turned on. Learned my lesson for that when I had a game running on my desktop PC and the video went out. (I pulled it out to fix the cord which had somehow worked loose and scratched my game all to heck and back and couldn't play it anymore.:bnghd: ) After that experience I never move anything that has a disc in it if it's turned on and it hasn't happened again. So really the scratches are the result of a user moving the console around, and aren't really Microsoft's fault. The RROD on the other hand is their fault as far as I'm aware.

To the op and the pink haired lady...


Microsoft doesn't give a crap about your problems. I know they know the consoles was defective.

I am taking accounting courses in college and what they told us it that you have to setup a debugging station for your product either test the console before you ship it or do it the cheap way by shipping it and having customers complain about it and give free returns that way you don't spend much on technicians testings the consoles.

It's all about costs. Even if Microsoft knew about the defects before hand.

They shipped it cuz they need cash on hand quickly. If you notice Microsoft doesn't run off bill gates money. Microsoft is a public company so they have investors... invest into Microsoft which they use their company and then make these game consoles and OS.

If Microsoft needs more money they take out loans which they need to pay back quickly . So they are busy paying back loans and other liabilities.

So they decided that why test the consoles. Just ship it with the defects and we will fix it later since Microsoft has business insurance which pays for the process to fix defective products.

Hope this give you a insight. They are really tight on cash cuz on a daily basis money goes in then out and back in and out each day.

I never bought any new game consoles cuz I personally think each game console sucks.

The games and how they manipulate people to go out and buy a new game console and have game makers to make games only for the new console to force people to buy the new games.

I do personally hate Microsoft for losing a lawsuit long ago about monopolizing the market.:bnghd:

Interesting timing. My xbox 360 tells me whenever I insert a xbox360 game into it to "please insert this disc into a xbox360 console" WTF!!! an xbox 360 is telling me it's not an xbox360 and that I'd better find anxbox360 to play my games on!!! theres a programing error for you that I think they may have missed.

Same console-whenever I insert a DVD into it it says please open cd tray. so I open it. it then says please close cd tray so I close it. it then says please open cd tray so I open it again.


so I'm currently house sitting for a friend of mine as I type this. so I see he has a newer xbox 360. sweet I think I'll go grab all my games I want to play and bring em over. get my xbox time in. GUess not cause after 15 minutes of gaming the console freezes. wont boot up now and I got to explain to my friend that the xbox don't work it wasn't me etc...

reply to post by BASSPLYR


A friend oif mine has that problem exactly.
I find it funny how the console has that message in it's system, the guy who wrote that message must be laughing his face off.
My mate who gets it just has to turn on and off and on and off until it works, but that really can take a long time sometimes.

It only happens when rather than saying play (whatever game) in the dash board, it says play DVD, so it doesn't recognise the disc as a game.


Not to start a fanboy war, but I find 360 is more a gaming system and PS3 is an Entertainment system, I don't like how Sony tried to compete with the Wii with the Six Axis, what a failure that is.

Chukkles the PS3 is a little of what you say "an entertainment system" but in truth that is just a bolt on for a next gen games console, and that is what the PS3 is.

As for the controller, whether sixaxis or the dualshock3 I have no problems with the controller, and to be fair you cannot compare the Wii to the PS3, the Wii takes us back to the good old days of pong and family entertainment albeit on a much grander scale.

The PS3 and Xbox do what serious gamers want them to do.

Wolfie

Yeah Chukkles,

I used to turn it on and off for about 5 minutes and eventually it would load the game. Then it stopped doing even this, and it's just crapped out all together. all I get now is a dashboard and it won't even take a disc of any type.

Wii is fun. they need to work on the graphics, but it's mario cart is one sweet game. really fun. But I'm afraid that that is as good as the wii's graphics will go. it's a novel idea and it's is great fun when guests are over but really the tech seems very late 90's to me graqphic wise.

THe xbox360 and even more so the PS3 are real gaming consoles where graphics mean everything.

I saved what I could from my tips for over a year just to purchase the 360. A week after I was able to finally purchase one, it got the Ring of Death. I called Microsoft and had it sent away. Microsoft then sent me a brand new 360 which I received 2-3 weeks later, plus one month free of Xbox Live Gold.

Nine months after I received the new 360 Microsoft sent me, it too got the Ring of Death. I did what I did before and received a new 360 from Microsoft and the month of Xbox Live Gold, same as before.

A couple months ago, that Xbox 360 began to have hardware failure. It's not the Ring of Death. Now, the white screen pops up saying to insert an Xbox compatible CD...yada yada yada.

I am officially done with Microsoft and the Xbox 360. I have owned an Atari, original Nintendo, Sega Genesis, Sega Dreamcast, original Xbox, Nintendo 64, Playstation, Playstation 2, and 3 Xbox 360s. I can say, without a shadow of a doubt, that the Xbox 360 is the worst video game platform ever created. If I thought I could actually get it, I would demand a full refund.

If it was an isolated incident, I'd just chalk it up to bad luck. But I know I'm not the only one who has had repeated problems with their 360. It portrays an obvious lack of concern and quality by Microsoft and I feel that Microsoft should suffer some sort of legal consequences for putting a product on the market which they knew to be defective.

I've never had a problem with scratched discs, though.

reply to post by DarthChrisious


Why I kept my Original Xbox. I love Fable, and Halo, and Fuzion Frenzy! And my PS3 has the best games, and any good games on the 360 are then redone, made better, and moved to the PS3 ala Bioshock. Sorry you wasted your very hard earned money on a Crap 360. If they worked I would want one for Fable 2 alone but they don't. Believe me, I would love to play Halo 3 but not wasting the money too have it burst in to flames on me.

reply to post by Black_Fox


my Xbox died twice

funny enough it died exactly one year after i bought it
they repaired it

3 months later (when Halo 3 was released) Died again, this time it took my Halo 3 with it

Got it repaired again, had to wait just undre 2 months for them to send new Halo 3
they were kind enough to give a free Bluetooth headset aswell

hasnt Died so far,

and i will admit i like my xbox more then i like my PS3

feel free to add me if you have cod4,Halo3 or need for speed

live.xbox.com...



[edit on 6-1-2009 by bodrul]

I've had my360 for over a year now and everything's fine. Hopefully it manages to hold out so I can wear a smug grin on my face.

...Although that'll be wiped off as soon as I realise I have to buy another freaking console.

Personally, I've been very happy with my XBox 360. Games are beautiful, and if you liked Fable on the XBox, just wait until you've played Oblivion or Fable 2 on the 360...

I also have Wii...really no comparison, completely different gameplay experience...(and it plays GameCube, which is cool...)

I'm still looking to get a PS3 also. Just to have all options (and a Blue Ray player)...

BTW, you can easily find original XBox games at GameStop (and used, so cheap)... Most are playable on the 360 also, though may or may not need a Live download...

reply to post by Angry Potato


i was so smug about that
when my 360 went fine for a year

thankfully newer versions are less likely to get RROD