A Question About Adam and Eve vs. Dinosaurs

Originally posted by theindependentjournal
It's a lame attempt at slamming God, Christians and the Bible...

I know, when really all you have to do is watch them argue over this great story that they all know and cherish so well. 2 Adams? People before Adam. "who cares about the details as long as we can use it to invade strangers bedrooms."

reply to post by angel of lightangelo


I don't know what the heck that means but I would say this...

I isn't polite to peek into others bedrooms, neither is it polite to bring your bedroom into the public!

NUFF SAID

reply to post by letthereaderunderstand


Great Post, Star for you!

The names are very important and the original names can tell so much more than the transliterated and translated ones can...

That is why I can't decide on the one creation of man or two...

Adam and Ha Adam... Who knows, I guess it isn't important to me in the Salvation issue or the times we are in issue so I pay it less attention...

Originally posted by theindependentjournal
reply to post by angel of lightangelo

 

I don't know what the heck that means but I would say this...

I isn't polite to peek into others bedrooms, neither is it polite to bring your bedroom into the public!

NUFF SAID

Riiiiiiight. That is why christians never worry about who I sleep with and catholics keep quiet about my desire to use a condom, right? Oh, wait, no. Those are the two groups obsessed with what I do in my bedroom. Get it now?

Originally posted by angel of lightangelo

Originally posted by theindependentjournal
reply to post by angel of lightangelo

 

I don't know what the heck that means but I would say this...

I isn't polite to peek into others bedrooms, neither is it polite to bring your bedroom into the public!

NUFF SAID

Riiiiiiight. That is why christians never worry about who I sleep with and catholics keep quiet about my desire to use a condom, right? Oh, wait, no. Those are the two groups obsessed with what I do in my bedroom. Get it now?

Hey careful with that "condom" statement.

Psttttt....ya you angel of lightangelo....come over here........

Look, don't be telling people they can use a condom....you're going to ruin our slave breading farms, not to mention the killer selection in alter boys. Who else is going to call me father?

Oh yeah and don't go getting any funny ideas telling my sheep, what a steeple really represents.

Are we clear?

Your free to go, but next time it's the paddle with the holes drilled though it.
Oh my, would you like to confess?

Originally posted by theindependentjournal
reply to post by Sparky63

 

This has gotta be called out... I am sorry to rebuke in public a fellow believer but this has GOT TO STOP. They Creation can NOT, repeat NOT be long periods of time or a 1000 years for each day and the Creation Story PROVES THIS...

Follow along and see if you don't agree:

Day one - Heaven and Earth and Light.
Day two - Created spaces on the Earth
Day three - Dry land and Seas, freshwater probably, and PLANTS AND HERBS...
Day four - The stars and Moons and SUN...

Here's the problem with this day-age theory that is UNBIBLICAL!!!!

Plants day 3, Sun Day 4, how did these plants that NEED SUN TO LIVE last 1000 years waiting for the Sun to come?

Do not add or take away form God's WORD we are told, do as He says or He is not your LORD.

I don't mean to be harsh but this crapola of Christians trying o make Darwin's theory fit into God's WORD has got to stop. There was NO evolution and God. Evolution requires DEATH for the adaptions that are better to evolve on, as the theory goes. The Bible clearly states that MAN brought DEATH into the world with SIN.. Remember the tree and the SIN and SURELY YOU SHALL DIE... Well Man brought death into the world under the Biblical version, and Death brought Man into the world under evolution this is 180 degrees so they CAN NOT BE COMBINED!!!

[edit on 12/18/2008 by theindependentjournal]

Anyone else find it od that all scientists agree that the universe and the stars were created millions of years ago during the "Big bang Theory", and also agree that GOD created the same thing 6000 years ago when he created the earth.
Any sentence in the bible should be taken as fiction.

To be dogmatic about the meaning of a word or an expression used in the Bible when there are numerous examples of it applied in different ways is not intellectually honest.

The Word, "Day", for example is used in many different ways in the Bible.
In some places it refers to a 24 hour period of time, In other places it means only the daylight portion of that same 24 hour period, In other places it refers to the entire lifespan of a man, as in the expression, "In the days of ....".

Other cases where the word “day” is used in a flexible or figurative sense are: “the day of God’s creating Adam” (Ge 5:1), “the day of Jehovah” (Zep 1:7), the “day of fury” (Zep 1:15), “the day of salvation” (2Co 6:2), “the day of judgment” (2Pe 3:7), “the great day of God the Almighty” (Re 16:14), and others.

The entire period of the six time units or creative “days” dedicated to the preparation of planet Earth is summed up in one all-embracing “day” at Genesis 2:4: “This is a history of the heavens and the earth in the time of their being created, in the day that Jehovah God made earth and heaven.”

So there is no conflict with the use of the word day in the creation account to mean a period of time that could encompass, thousands, or millions of years.

The fact is that the earth has been here for Billions of years and plant and animal life has been here for millions of years.




[edit on 24-12-2008 by Sparky63]

Originally posted by theindependentjournal
reply to post by ModernAcademia

 

Dinosaurs were created on the 6th day:
Genesis 1:24 ¶ And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good...
26 ¶ And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. [moveth: Heb. creepeth]
29 ¶ And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. [bearing…: Heb. seeding seed] [yielding…: Heb. seeding seed]
30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so. [life: Heb. a living soul]
31 ¶ And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Okay now another question, which actually deserves it's own thread
here's a thought

what if who the bible portrays as god is actually the devil?

here's why, based on what I have quoted you saying, god made man as image of himself, and said man will basically be gods on earth ruling over land and sea and all creatures on or in it.

look at the world today, look where we are?
animal torture, mass sadism, murder, killing, rape, war every devilish sin you can think of, or perhaps demonic would be a better term.

if this is the royalty he has given us, and this is what we are now, and we are in his image how is that a godlike image?

is that more like the devil?

Originally posted by theindependentjournal I do not believe in any part of evolutionary theory other than what they call Micro-evolution, which I call change or adaption within a species. Like breeding dogs for a special trait and getting a miniature dobie. Yes the dog is different in looks but it is still a dog that can interbreed with other dogs, it didn't turn into a horse...

So if man evolves as do animals
and we were created in god's image
does that mean that god evolves too?

Originally posted by angel of lightangelo
Well, let's look at this logically.

Adam and Eve had two sons.
Those two sons either built wives, managed to impregnate each other and spawn wives, impregnated Eve to spawn wives, or it was magic!

Dinosaurs. would have already had more than two by the time they evolved from single celled creatures.

Unless someone can correct me on the first one, I have to lean toward the second.

You are showing your ignorance... Adam and Eve had many sons and daughters, With the best known being Kane and Able. And yes, incest was OK back then....

As for Dinosours ( lizards ), they were created a day before Humans...

no religion is fact
also
evolution is not fact

Originally posted by ModernAcademia

Originally posted by theindependentjournal
reply to post by ModernAcademia

 

Dinosaurs were created on the 6th day:
Genesis 1:24 ¶ And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good...
26 ¶ And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. [moveth: Heb. creepeth]
29 ¶ And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. [bearing…: Heb. seeding seed] [yielding…: Heb. seeding seed]
30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so. [life: Heb. a living soul]
31 ¶ And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Okay now another question, which actually deserves it's own thread
here's a thought

what if who the bible portrays as god is actually the devil?

here's why, based on what I have quoted you saying, god made man as image of himself, and said man will basically be gods on earth ruling over land and sea and all creatures on or in it.

look at the world today, look where we are?
animal torture, mass sadism, murder, killing, rape, war every devilish sin you can think of, or perhaps demonic would be a better term.

if this is the royalty he has given us, and this is what we are now, and we are in his image how is that a godlike image?

is that more like the devil?

You also are showing your ignorance.... When God said humans were created in his image, ect... that was before sin entered the world.

Please read the book before you criticize it...

reply to post by theindependentjournal


Do you believe that Jesus was crucified?

Anyone else find it odd that all scientists agree that the universe and the stars were created millions of years ago during the "Big bang Theory", and also agree that GOD created the same thing 6000 years ago when he created the earth.
Any sentence in the bible should be taken as fiction.

These are the same scientists that tested a lava rock created by Mt St Helens in 1986 and said it was millions of years old. The bottom line is that the dating system is WRONG. Can you look at a pebble in a highway and make assumtions about the highway thousands of miles away? NO

[edit on 24-12-2008 by Twilly]

[edit on 24-12-2008 by Twilly]