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Michelle Obama Is The "Specifically Named Individual" In The Affidavit Submitted by FBI

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posted on Dec, 15 2008 @ 12:53 AM
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The Real Story Behind the Rushed Blagojevich Bust: How the Feds Are Frustrated by Losing (Maybe) Half of Their Case

blogs.wsj.com... ase/



But the opposite is true: Members of Fitzgerald’s team are livid the scheme didn’t advance, at least for a little longer, according to some people close to Fitzgerald’s office. Why? Because had the plot unfolded, they might have had an opportunity most feds can only dream of: A chance to catch the sale of a Senate seat on tape, including the sellers and the buyers.


I was wondering this myself.


The precise timing of Tuesday’s dramatic, pre-dawn arrest was not dictated by Fitzgerald, nor was it dictated by the pace of Blagojevich’s alleged “crime spree.” It was dictated by the Chicago Tribune, according to people close to the investigation and a careful reading of the FBI’s affidavit in the case.

At Fitzgerald’s request, the paper had been holding back a story since October detailing how a confidante of Blagojevich was cooperating with his office.


How did the paper know?


The Tribune’s front page screamed: “Feds taped Blagojevich; TRIBUNE EXCLUSIVE: Adviser cooperated with corruption probe, sources say.Blagojevich read the same headline. “Undo” that “thing,” the governor allegedly told his brother, according to the FBI. And just like that, the meeting was off, only one day after it had been put back into play.

There appear to have been fears in Fitzgerald’s office that those caught on tape might now seek to “undo” other “things.” Hours were logged over the weekend. Paperwork was pounded out. And before sunrise Tuesday, Blagojevich and his chief of staff were arrested simultaneously. At that same moment, FBI agents also knocked on the doors of witnesses. These were just a few of the people agents wanted to interview before cellphones started ringing across the city and others who had been caught on tape had a chance to get their stories straight.

Had it not been for the Tribune’s Dec. 5 story, the meeting Blagojevich’s brother was arranging might have proceeded. Mr. Blagojevich is quoted as citing the story, in the affidavit, then calling off the meeting. At a minimum, the FBI’s recorders would have been rolling when he reported back. The feds also probably would have tried to bug the session live, or at least to tail the participants and secretly film or photograph them. That’s what feds do. Jurors love video.


Who knows how many dishonest people this could have taken down.

If not for !!!!!!!

Did the paper do it to warn the Obama camp?



posted on Dec, 15 2008 @ 01:18 AM
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Listen... I was forced to go to a WHITE church until I was 14... and you think WHITE churches in the Midwest never preached hate against people of other races, eye shapes, and skin colors??? They even preached against the Methodists, the Presbyterians, the Catholics, the Jews, the Quakers, The Episcopal sects... ANYONE who wasn't a member of MY church was going straight to Hell, and these people had never known discrimination, or been enslaved... They just thought (and probably STILL think) their way is the ONLY way to Heaven.

As much as I disagree with Rev. Wright, I can at least understand why a lot of black ministers and black people have felt persecuted, and until WE... the white people... stop looking at them as different from us... they will STILL have good reason to feel separate. Had we all been raised equally, together, none of this prejudice would rear it's ugly head the way it always has, and will continue to.

If white people didn't have black people, muslims, and other distinctions to separate and divide us, we'd be fighting over who's hair texture is better, who's eyes are bluer, who's skin is softer, who's boobs are better... you name it; we'd find a reason to discriminate over it.

And this is something we have to ALL make a collective conscious decision to overcome.

I think a lot of you people in this thread just can't stand it that a half-white man won the Presidency over a befuddled, crass, beauty-queen-struck old white man, who is still fighting the Viet Nam War, and will continue to do so until he goes to the great battlefield in the sky.

GET OVER IT! Obama may be the best President in a century, if we get off his back and let him try to clean up the mess "W" is making worse every day he remains in Office.



posted on Dec, 15 2008 @ 06:53 AM
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Well I was raised in church too, whatever that has to do with anything, and I never heard them preach hatred of any kind,

It was called Free Methodist, look it up.
en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Dec, 15 2008 @ 07:21 AM
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Here is a good one,




"When Illinois politicians think you're too corrupt, you're too corrupt," Seth Meyers said. "That's like Amy Winehouse telling you to go to rehab."


I was thinking this Sunday morning whlie looking at the News Paper, all these crooked lawmakers telling another crook to step down.

creeps, get rid of all the bums.

Businessman Tied to Fund-Raising Offer to Blagojevich
www.nytimes.com...

Complaint Suggests Obama Might Have Caught Wind of Blagojevich Dealings
Barack Obama says he had no contact with Gov. Rod Blagojevich over his vacant Senate seat, but the sequence of events in the FBI complaint suggests he might have caught wind of the governor's alleged dealings.

www.foxnews.com...

And by the way CynCritter, trust is something that is earned.



[edit on 073131p://bMonday2008 by Stormdancer777]



posted on Dec, 15 2008 @ 08:11 AM
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Originally posted by CynCritter
Listen... I was forced to go to a WHITE church until I was 14... and you think WHITE churches in the Midwest never preached hate against people of other races, eye shapes, and skin colors??? They even preached against the Methodists, the Presbyterians, the Catholics, the Jews, the Quakers, The Episcopal sects... ANYONE who wasn't a member of MY church was going straight to Hell, and these people had never known discrimination, or been enslaved... They just thought (and probably STILL think) their way is the ONLY way to Heaven.


which "white" church in the mid west preached hatred against blacks?





As much as I disagree with Rev. Wright, I can at least understand why a lot of black ministers and black people have felt persecuted, and until WE... the white people... stop looking at them as different from us... they will STILL have good reason to feel separate. Had we all been raised equally, together, none of this prejudice would rear it's ugly head the way it always has, and will continue to.



Hard to know where to start with such mental acrobating

I AM A WHITE INDIVIDUAL
I HAVE NEVER "OPPRESSED" THE RACIST REVEREND WRIGHT
REV WRIGHT IS AN INDIVIDUAL
HE HAS VOLUNTARILY CHOSEN TO BE RACIST


and you pander to these black racists, how embarrassing



posted on Dec, 15 2008 @ 09:41 AM
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Originally posted by Stormdancer777
The Real Story Behind the Rushed Blagojevich Bust: How the Feds Are Frustrated by Losing (Maybe) Half of Their Case

blogs.wsj.com... ase/



But the opposite is true: Members of Fitzgerald’s team are livid the scheme didn’t advance, at least for a little longer, according to some people close to Fitzgerald’s office. Why? Because had the plot unfolded, they might have had an opportunity most feds can only dream of: A chance to catch the sale of a Senate seat on tape, including the sellers and the buyers.


I was wondering this myself.


The precise timing of Tuesday’s dramatic, pre-dawn arrest was not dictated by Fitzgerald, nor was it dictated by the pace of Blagojevich’s alleged “crime spree.” It was dictated by the Chicago Tribune, according to people close to the investigation and a careful reading of the FBI’s affidavit in the case.

At Fitzgerald’s request, the paper had been holding back a story since October detailing how a confidante of Blagojevich was cooperating with his office.


How did the paper know?


The Tribune’s front page screamed: “Feds taped Blagojevich; TRIBUNE EXCLUSIVE: Adviser cooperated with corruption probe, sources say.Blagojevich read the same headline. “Undo” that “thing,” the governor allegedly told his brother, according to the FBI. And just like that, the meeting was off, only one day after it had been put back into play.

There appear to have been fears in Fitzgerald’s office that those caught on tape might now seek to “undo” other “things.” Hours were logged over the weekend. Paperwork was pounded out. And before sunrise Tuesday, Blagojevich and his chief of staff were arrested simultaneously. At that same moment, FBI agents also knocked on the doors of witnesses. These were just a few of the people agents wanted to interview before cellphones started ringing across the city and others who had been caught on tape had a chance to get their stories straight.

Had it not been for the Tribune’s Dec. 5 story, the meeting Blagojevich’s brother was arranging might have proceeded. Mr. Blagojevich is quoted as citing the story, in the affidavit, then calling off the meeting. At a minimum, the FBI’s recorders would have been rolling when he reported back. The feds also probably would have tried to bug the session live, or at least to tail the participants and secretly film or photograph them. That’s what feds do. Jurors love video.


Who knows how many dishonest people this could have taken down.

If not for !!!!!!!

Did the paper do it to warn the Obama camp?


"the paper had been holding back a story since October "

Maybe this was supposed to be the 'October surprise'!!



posted on Dec, 15 2008 @ 10:51 AM
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No doubt, they must have changed their minds,



posted on Dec, 15 2008 @ 12:17 PM
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Originally posted by paxnatus
"Obama was well known in Chi town for avoiding the machinery"

How is that possible if he was planning Blago's campaign? And we now know how well oiled Blago was. Are you telling me, Obama is squeaky clean and had no idea how corrupt Blago was? Your not that naive are you?


I am neither naïve nor simple minded.
Obama campaigned with Blago as did many democratic politicians. All of which likely regret it. It was done because they opposed his opponent.

Obama does not like Blago…this was clear long before this scandal hit. It has been written about in the local papers here for a few years.

As far as the dumb idea that you propose that EITHER Obama knew of the corruption and THUS was corrupt OR he was squeaky clean and NOT corrupt…
That is a naïve way of thinking. It is a binary (Either/Or) argument.

Both of the following are true: Obama was aware of the corruption in Chicago politics AND avoided it like the plague. Whether it was due to him having future political ambitions and not wanting scandal to follow him or because he was ethically opposed to the Chicago “Machinery”…either way it has been written about for a long time prior to this scandal. He was resented by many politicians in Chicago for not operating within the machinery.

Geez, EVERYONE in Chicago is aware of the corruption,...It doesn't make everyone corrupt.


Originally posted by Aermacchi

as for Maybreal, yes those ARE her words and she said that during the Democratic Convention


It’s kind of exhausting debating folks who have no interest in the truth and embrace BS as long as it serves their agenda.

…Here are three links to transcripts of Michelle Obama’s speech at the DNC.

Please direct me to where she says she was admitted to Princeton due to Affirmative Action?

For now I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are just ignorant of the facts rather than consciously lying to serve some emotionally driven prejudice.

elections.nytimes.com...#

blogs.suntimes.com...

www.cnn.com...



posted on Dec, 16 2008 @ 08:55 AM
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The only "dumb idea" I see, is yours in thinking Obama is not involved in the corrupt politics of Chicago. How else does a man who has done NOTHING rise to hold one of the most powerful positions in the world?

Let's see how all this shakes out, after Rahm, whose conversations have been taped by feds, takes the heat for Obama. How come so much scandal surrounds this guy? Yeah, he doesn't know anything...sure!!

He avoided the "dirty dealings" because he is one of outstanding character,
He has stellar judgement in his choice of "friends" i.e. Wright, Ayers, Rezko, Blago, cousin Odinga, Rahm I'm sure I have left someone out.

The truth is, my 12 yr. old uses better judgement when selecting people
to associate with. Why can't he? At least she can admit when she's made a mistake. What a man of honor!!
And what a fine choice he made in a lifetime partner!



posted on Dec, 16 2008 @ 03:40 PM
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Originally posted by greeneyedleo
This whole entire situation and Obama's alledged innocence of everything is NOT sitting well with me, nor many others.

I wonder how long Blagojevich will remain alive. I wonder if he will feel the need to off himself soon. Hmmm.


Good questions.....I would venture to say he will not be going to the inaugaral ball.....



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