Total Collapse but when?

I dont think I have seen a post on ats about this recently we all know that the world economy is on its way out and riots are real and possible theres a good chance of a total system failure but when is the question. So I thought if no one had posted anything on it why not get some guess's going.

What's it going to hurt if everything collapses including the internet there wont be any thing won or lost im betting sometime after obama takes office in march when things go strait down into a tail spin any other takers.

Pick a month day or year that you think that $h!t will hit the fan big time nothing to win or lose just to see who's closest no one will win anything but I figure now is as good a time as any to post something like this.

Falcon

well, it looks to me like an open window around Feb. 17th, 2009 seems to be an important date. I dont know whats going to happen only something will on this day of major importance. they dont tell me everything you know.

Pres Elect Obama takes office in January (not March)...what is so significant re 17 Feb 2009? (17 +2 +11 = 30 = 3)

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who doesn't tell you everything?

yup

This is what I say...

caveo Nos es non promptus! vicis est intensely near. Orbis terrarum must nunquam teneo quam nos mos preoccupo

[edit on 10-12-2008 by SLAYER69]

Mr. Internet of coarse, I knew 3 days before the NWO staged the terror attack in India. and the news put one citizen on after another willing to give up their rights for security.... well, you can tell it was a govt job.
which govt. is the question.

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Well, there will need to be a catalyst of some kind, but I don't think it will be the financial situation.

I think you need a sudden event or sense of injustice to create massive civil unrest. And the PTB seem to be creating and controlling the economic collapse to be in stages. If it's a gradual decline, like a frog in gradually heating water, the people will likely not notice a dramatic change which could cause massive unrest.
But if something happens during that time, it will likely be exacerbated by the financial crisis. Just like what is happening in Greece right now; it started with the shooting of a boy, but has now become an economic and anti-government issue.

I don't think it is bad enough just yet to assume that this is inevitable. But I think you are only a few months away from the beginning of a very precarious time when one bad action or choice of a Bank or Corporation could cause widespread anger.

I'm willing to state it'll be Feb-ish.
You'll have a high with Obama taking office, then the economic situation will hit the news again, and a Bank, one of the car companies or the government itself will do something so outlandish that it causes a protest.
During that protest the PTB will do something unjust, and many more will take to the streets.
The media will report on it because it's too good a story to pass up, and perhaps the controlling factors will be disaffected now that Bush is out of office. The propaganda machine will love the opportunity to cause problems for Obama where they would have limited exposure for Bush.

But if it's simply a likely scenario for Martial Law you're looking for, that could happen any time if the U.S. is attacked.

So, I'm guessing obvious problems could really start in February.

detachedindividual has a fair grasp of the situation.

I thought it would be this winter with very high prices of home heating oil that would have made people literally choose between heat or food. This oil crash was timed just about right.

I'm thinking more in the line of a slow motion train wreak. The engine is off the track, but the passenger cars are still moving and everything is fine.

In the mean time, you lose your job, doesn't affect me. Some of your friends lose their jobs, you know about it, I still don't care; I'm employed. But you and your friends have a different point of view of the economy and other events that I don't.

I'd look towards spring, April - May or so, for something to really happen that affects people on the national level.

February? This doom is stale, in the sense that it is too far away. I predict before Cheney leaves office...that guy makes Mussolini look like Barney the Purple Dinosaur.

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If you look at the actual financial trends, it has not cut into the real world economy. The rebound started in November. The fluxes we see now are very dynamic and people should not panic because of the nature of them. Ask any financial advisor and they can explain.

The world economy is not on the way out. There is no fear of a total system failure unless people believe everything they are told blindly without doing the correct research themselves. Anyone who thinks just any website holds the truth on blind faith, is just plain ignorant. Isn't that what this site is about, denying that ignorance?

Recession, yes. Started in 2007. We should be taking bets on when the recovery is here. Q4 2009 or early 2010 would be a safe bet based off current trends. It is important to note that some countries are flourishing now, and they had problems about 6 months ago. So as a whole, it isn't as bad as some are reporting.

Originally posted by pluckynoonez
February? This doom is stale, in the sense that it is too far away. I predict before Cheney leaves office...that guy makes Mussolini look like Barney the Purple Dinosaur.

I've wondered about this too.

But I think they'll simply allow the mess to unfold after Obama takes office. They've probably set a few traps to spring into life after he's in.

Why allow it all to happen on your watch if you can delay the inevitable until the next guy is in?
Even if you've caused it, you can arrange for distractions and preventative measures until you're out of the picture.

Personally, I think they know the car companies are going to collapse, they know there are going to be millions suddenly out of work, and they are giving just enough money to stave this off until Obama is in office and has to clean up the mess.
Chances are they know the banks are going to fail too, and have raided the tax coffers to prevent it from happening while they are there, and while giving them a healthy return on their personal investments.

Even on a global scale they could cause tension with another power just in time to be on the way out of the door.

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hahaha, the DTV transition. that is a big one on my calender because i get to dismantle some pretty powerful analog cabinets at my TV stations transmitter site. Ill keep my eyes out for the black ops guys at the site, but we have some pretty substantial security in place to keep out unauthorized personnel and our cams will catch anyone installing a blackbox. here is an excerpt from an email from someone at our sister station about this same thing:

"Homeland security I mean “Verizon” was here to install a “fiber” line to “Newton” in the transmitter room a few weeks ago. They placed a box in the rack that was labeled secret spying device. I think these people are ON to something...."

He was being sarcastic BTW. the DTV switch should be interesting, but im banking on uneventful.

now, may 5th, thats another story...........


......thats my birthday!

Having repeatedly read warnings about the summer 2009, I've come to the conclusion that those predictions were optimistic.

The words of Shakespeare seem appropriate here:

"Now is the winter of our discontent"

I'm guessing somewhere between 1/20/09 and then end of Jan.

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This has made the rounds....


www.abovetopsecret.com...

Thanks for the link.

It's amazing how many of the threads I read back in the spring and summer, that were laughed off as psychotic ramblings, have proven to be spot on.

I don't accept all of the ideas the "LAPD" guy put forth in March, but he was accurate about Sept as a catalyst month.

Makes sense to keep a close watch out for events leading into February.

In any case, preps continue, as it's the only thing I can do right now.

Total Collapse but when?

Christmas, Saturnalia, when no one is looking.