Officer shot in head at point-blank range

reply to post by Chance321


If someone breaks into your home or hurts your family you kill them, don't call the cops, kill them. The way laws are being screwed with these days, to get them arrested could get you sued for hurting their feelings cause they also got oo many f's....I mean h's in school.

reply to post by Finn1916


You forgot one thing. Put something in the piece of garbage's hand (knife, hammer, ect)an say you thought your life was in danger, then you'll be covered.
Sad thing is we had an auto parts store get robbed, the employee fought the guy an held him till the Police arrived. The robbers lawyer had the employees arrested for assult. The Police aren't the bad guys, it's the stinking lawyers. Anyways, the judge here threw the case out an dropped the charges against the employees.

Originally posted by wrangell76


Are you trying to justify his actions? Seriously?

No; there's a big difference between analysing the situation and justifiying the situation.

This cop was doing his job and his life was taken away by some low life who couldn't control his temper.

Neither "fact" was established. Only a video of the situation or an *impartial* exhaustive investigation could resolve what occured.

A non-profit website called "badcopnews.com" went off-the-air after 5+ years on the 'net. This website was detailing *MSM* accounts of police crimes -- including murder, rape, robbery, theft, assault, drug dealing, planting evidence and filing false reports, etc.. There were new reports on this website DAILY. The police thin-blue-line is effectively a gang and they routinely cover up the crimes of their members.

Seriously, you don't know this criminals' history, and yes he does have a criminal past-was on parole at the time.

You don't know this cop's history.





[edit on 12/10/2008 by anonymousATS]

Actually I would call the police under those circumstances that you mentioned. I do think that police are important in certain scenarios. My point is that because a criminal will be tossed in jail whether he fights and runs or gives up without a fight it only makes sense for him to fight and run.

Originally posted by Chance321
reply to post by Finn1916

 

You forgot one thing. Put something in the piece of garbage's hand (knife, hammer, ect)an say you thought your life was in danger, then you'll be covered.
Sad thing is we had an auto parts store get robbed, the employee fought the guy an held him till the Police arrived. The robbers lawyer had the employees arrested for assult. The Police aren't the bad guys, it's the stinking lawyers. Anyways, the judge here threw the case out an dropped the charges against the employees.

depends on the state you live in. I live in florida, you come in my house i have the right to shoot you dead. period. Gotta love castle law.

I don't see the justification that once a man is down and an escape route is there in going back to shoot him in the head except that of murder.

Those who accept that should now be able to accept crimes against them self or family members.

As a gun owner, I'm always upset when a firearm is used to commit a crime. Makes the whole lot of us look bad. Too bad this guy found a firearm that can kill, a story a few years back mentioned an officer who was shot 3 times point blank in the back of the head and received nothing more than a band-aid. Maybe criminals should only be allowed to steal .25s?

One question I have is this. A police officer got killed. Yes, I know that the job in question is to serve the public, thats debatable, but a different thread. Just because he puts on that uniform and badge each day doesnt make his life any more important than mine or yours. So why is it that when a cop gets killed everyone starts screaming death penalty and the department goes out of its way to track this person down?

Yes, its sad a man died, but his life was no more valuable than the guy driving a school bus.

This is the kind of sad state we're in.

When I went through my local Police Departments Citizens Police Academy one of the officers handed me links to several videos of officers being killed in the line of duty to think over the dangers of my career choice.
I've seen traffic stops end up with murder. Simple traffic stops, no corruption, no race issues. I've seen video of an officer pulling someone over for speeding, be nice to them, firm when they fought verbally but never cruel or evil. The man that was pulled over grabbed a gun and shot the officer dead. Including standing over him and firing point blank. Then he just casually drove off.

It's a damn shame when something like this happens.

I see some saying it is just a danger officers’ face on a daily, which is true no doubt about it they sign up knowing what can happen. But each of us should understand that each day we step out of our home we risk the same thing, because we cannot control the man next to us anything can happen.


I have seen some questioning why the stop took place in the first place, it is a traffic stop really it takes very little to initiate one. Simply not using your signal in a timely manner can get you pulled over so can following too closely. Guess what though we will not find out why the cop pulled this guy over he is now dead. Regardless we do know for fact that this guy that got pulled over was breaking a law. He was a convicted felon on parole in position of a firearm. I don’t think felons need firearms personally there is a reason they are not allowed to keep them this guy is a prime example.

What we also know is that this guy purposefully murdered this officer. He shot him and knocked him down then came over and shot him point blank in the head. Obviously this guy needs to be off the streets. Even if he shot the cop he could have ran, there was no need to kill the officer. For this man to do this it is apparent that he had no problems breaking any law and hurting who ever got in his way. How he managed parole is beyond me I do though hope his lawyer and the parole board are happy with their choice to let this man out.

To answer the question of why we hear about cops getting killed v. the public I believe it is pretty much the same reason we hear about military being killed. They are there for the purpose of protecting the public (though some would argue not all are or none are but that is another thread). It might be that they are seen even a small amount as heroes of sorts for putting their life on the line to save others. Yeah they sign up for it but that does not make it any less special. I know there are good cops out there as well as bad cops. We do not know about these cops past or what he was like but it is safe to say that they are not bad 24/7. It is impossible to think that they could always be criminals. Even the criminals themselves such as the guy who did the murder here will have a good time from time to time. Regardless at this point in time considering the circumstances we know it is safe to say this cop was doing the job he signed on for at this time.

Some of the posts on this thread show an apparent disregard and despise for the police. Say what you will have whatever thoughts you will about them, not all are bad cops though. Also you must understand there is an increased risk with the change in times that there will be a time when you or your immediate family will need the police some time.

Raist

fact: we are intruding into African Americans lives way too much and they have had enough

doesn't make shooting an officer right

its just the POLICIES are leading to disastrous meltdown of the black people. its so saaaad.

treat drug users as VICTIMS not CRIMINALS. its a harmless crime, with the exception of violent gangs/mafias

I really am having trouble understanding why some are so quick to condemn a slain officer. Some jerk off murders a cop in cold blood, and suddenly it's his fault for being a cop, or his fault for racial profiling. I've dealt with hundreds of cops in my past career, there were some dirt bags (ahem Seattle PD) but the majority were good men and women with a real desire to help society. Automatically assuming a cop is dirty and a racist is as dumb as saying all black people are criminals.

Originally posted by Raustin
I really am having trouble understanding why some are so quick to condemn a slain officer. Some jerk off murders a cop in cold blood, and suddenly it's his fault for being a cop, or his fault for racial profiling. I've dealt with hundreds of cops in my past career, there were some dirt bags (ahem Seattle PD) but the majority were good men and women with a real desire to help society. Automatically assuming a cop is dirty and a racist is as dumb as saying all black people are criminals.

why are u so worried about what other people think

you feel the way you feel thats your right to feel sad for the police men

I feel awful for him but you have to treat the disease not the symptoms...

Here is an update to the story.

It includes harassing an ex that morning and what is described as an ambush.

The link

I think in this case they should let his fellow officers beat that worthless piece of garbage to death,I'm sick of hearing of poor black youth had a hard life,a policeman risks his life daily trying to keep order and save lives,and I'm appalded by one OP saying he is just another dead human,I hope if one of his family members are murdered the same is said about him,with people like that no wonder the world is what it is today,it's the me me generation

Originally posted by roadgravel
I don't see the justification that once a man is down and an escape route is there in going back to shoot him in the head except that of murder.

Those who accept that should now be able to accept crimes against them self or family members.

Well ya know, it's like others said on the "Man badly beaten for Obama shirt".


Ya just don't know what the cop did to provoke this guy.

Of course I don't follow that logic, but it seems to be the prevailing belief on that thread, that ya just shouldnt wear Political shirts because you might get beat down.

In this case, you really shouldn't be a cop chasing criminals if you don't expect to get shot in the head at point blank range.

Sounds to me like the cops fault according to the logic on the other thread.

Originally posted by Oldtimer2
I think in this case they should let his fellow officers beat that worthless piece of garbage to death,I'm sick of hearing of poor black youth had a hard life,a policeman risks his life daily trying to keep order and save lives,and I'm appalded by one OP saying he is just another dead human,I hope if one of his family members are murdered the same is said about him,with people like that no wonder the world is what it is today,it's the me me generation

So when a man gets beat down for wearing a Obama shirt.. it's ironic. That's what you said on the other thread.

But now, you call for revenge in this case. I don't get it... where do your loyalties lie?

You think its just fine for a person to get beat down for political beliefs but shoot a cop... oh no.

Whatever.. either it's ok to use violence when you feel justified or its not.

[edit on 11-12-2008 by HunkaHunka]

Pretty one sided story if you ask me. Who knows what the police officer did to provoke the violence. Often officers of the law are cocky, self-righteous, vigilantes with a legal protective blanket to abuse power and beat down subjective individuals.

reply to post by blowfishdl


I knew it was only a matter of time...


I can't wait for the thread titled "8 yo disembowled by 12 yo" And then here someone say "Yeah.. but how did that 8 yo provoke it?"

It is so interesting and such a social commentary that so many posters on this thread have chosen to NOT immediately condemn the criminal and praise the officer. It says so much about the times we're living in. Americans today really do feel as though the police are out of control. Even in a case like this one where a cop is executed some people cannot resist the urge to point out that some cops are no better than criminals.

People on this thread who defend the cops are using the old monarchy/dictator defense, i.e. "You don't realize how much they're doing for you. Without them we'd be in real trouble. You should be grateful."

Well, we're not grateful, we think they're doing a crap job. You can tell the citizenry how lucky they are to have the cops but eventually they're going to make up their own minds. And the will of the people is always correct. If the cops don't start acting the way that the population wants them to their wings will be clipped.

omg

this is such above top secret material.



screw this crap.
this is all I find on ATS nowadays.

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same old crap I'd find on a freaking LOCAL NEWS STATION

we have to talk about it? we have to manifest it's recourse???

I'd rather fathom the Bell Craft or D.U.M.B.'s thank you.

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