Request for information! Ley lines, stealing energy and it's uses.

During the onset of Christianity within the British isles and I would guess the rest of Europe. The church erased the presence of the pagan religion by literally building churches on top of their sacred areas. The pagan religion is about mother earth and so most of these sited naturally followed ley lines.

If you follow the Michael and Mary (ley) lines across the south of England you will notice a worrying phenomenon some of Britain's cathedrals are situated directly on top. Saint Paul's Cathedral, Westminster Abbey, Salisbury Cathedral, Wells Cathedral and Canterbury Cathedral, to name a few. Not only that, they worked out how they could anchor the lines in place under the churches using the font i think.

They obviously know the importance of the lines. They are the earth's chi pathways. The same as we and all other living things have them.

acupuncture, obelisk, same thing?

The question I have always asked myself is why? Why would they go to all the bother?

If anyone has any other information on ley lines in other areas of the world, how our rulers are using them and for what purpose, I would be very interested to hear it.

During the times when Christianity was taking over the British Isles, the Isles were home to an earth-based, pagan religion. It included Goddess worship, moon and sun worship, magick, and druidry. These religious peoples would meet in the places of power because it enhanced their religious experience. They knew where the ley lines were, or at least the priests, priestesses, and druids did.

When Christianity moved in, two things may have happened. The church may have deliberately built their buildings in the old places of power in order to deter paganism - taking over the holy sites in a move to utterly destroy any hope the pagans may have had of maintaining their religion, and demonstrating Christ's superiority, authority, and dominance over their places of power.

OR

The church may have believed that they could substitute one religion for another, especially by substituting Marian worship and Son worship for worship of the goddess and the god, or the Moon and the Sun. This may actually have been facilitated by the priestesses and druids when they realized that their religion was doomed. The druids themselves may have recommended that the churches be built on the ley lines, hoping thereby to keep some of the power of the old religion alive in the church.

There are many other possibilities, such as the possibility that the church knew very well about the ley lines and secretly practiced occultism or at least superstition about the construction of their buildings; professing to believe in the One True god while at the same time trying to take advantage of the powers within the earth.

[edit on 25-11-2008 by OuttaHere]

The church know all about the power of ley lines, though i am not so sure what they use the energy for? The pattern of the church is the same across Europe where they build the churches not only on top of ley lines but in fact directed along them.

I've started a few threads here over the years hoping to discuss ley lines, and never got much response.

The Concept of Leys

Let's discuss Ley Lines

The first thread had some pretty good contributions, perhaps you can find some of what you are looking for there.

reply to post by OuttaHere


I will answer your second point. I see what you are saying, the church may wish to appear to understand and control the ley lines.

I think there is more to it than this though. The church actually control the path of the lines. They understand the stone required to do this and put it in to practice whereever they wish.

The story of st george and the dragon is a metaphorical one. The dragon being the ley line and the lance being the font pinning the line into place. St George I would guess is the church/government.

There is too much evidence to suggest they know what they are doing. There is a ley line running through Paris down the Champs Elysee, with most of the architecture in that area built around it. There is even an obelisk holding it in place/amplifying it?

reply to post by nyk537


Thanks very much for this. It will take me a while to read but I will do it as soon as possible.

There are a number of reasons why I would like to find out this information and the best place to find it, is on ATS. Thanks again, maybe what I need is in here somewhere.

Ok, I have started reading through your information.

I have a lot of experience in dousing and have researched a lot into people's ability to feel/douse ley lines. There are two gentleman who have doused their way across the entire Michael and Mary ley lines running across Britain. Considering your thoughts on Leys maybe you would find this interesting.

Ley lines are male and female in appearance,indeed they are described in this way. When they cross they create something called a node point. When doused, the node is actually a pentagram made from earth energy. This is potentially where this much maligned symbol originated.

When you start looking at the real symbolism of pentagrams,phi, pythagoras etc etc. you start to understand it's real history. away from devil worshipping and other such nonsenses (imho).

The next part has to be the crossing of ley lines that creates the node point and this has a lot to do with sacred geometry. At this point a pentagram appears. Pentagrams, described as a number is 1.6180339887 or otherwise known as Phi. Now, I am not a maths bod but I know this to be true, I do not know why.

Phi can be seen in many areas of life. This is phi expressed as a rectamgle or otherwise known as a golden rectangle

It is worth noting that when phi is a spiral it is called logarythmic

If you would like any of this explaining, I would be happy to do so.

[edit on 27-11-2008 by Cedik]

reply to post by nyk537


I have read the articles and am very impressed. It is only a shame that your group appears to have never got up and running.

If anyone needs to know anything about ley lines, I suggest they read the threads you have posted.

We are talking about harnessing the earth's life force here. Something which the ancient civilisations have done succesfully and we appear to be doing the same.

One person posted a map of Washington and the ley lines which connect it's key landmarks. They are harnessing the power for some reason, I just wish I knew what it was. The main purpose of this thread was to find out this information. Maybe this is the not the right place to find it out. I only hope that someone with insider information or even a crazy theory read these threads and lets us know their thoughts.

This subject has the power to transcend nearly all others imo. The government send out disinfo in all areas and we swarm all over it but when it comes to subjects like this it seems to be left to 'new age' followers who look at it in a way outside of the main thrust of this thread.

I for one will keep searching and thinking. I know it may take years but I will work it out.

signing off stardate 7235y8357

reply to post by Cedik


Said as gently and compassionately as possible, you haven't research much! There are literally hundred of sites on ley lines, geomancy, and sacred geometry. Most of the work you think you need to do has already been done. www.google.com is your friend.

interesting information makes sense didnt know that about george and the dragon

reply to anonymous ATS:

This may be true in your eyes that I have done little to no research but in that case why post at all? This must logically mean that either:

a) you know the answer to the question but are too smug to share the information with us.

b) you actually have no idea what the rulers use the energy for

If you know something please let us know, or if you have some suggestions of directions in which I could research. Otherwise I really fail to see the relevance of your post.

It almost seems like you are saying this

'I know the truth but I do not think you are worthy of it/I have spent too long trying to find it out to tell you/you are simply not intelligent enough for me to tell you.'

Whichever it is I sincerely hope you change your mind.

reply to post by serin sister


This really brings home the importance of the ley lines to our governments, that we actually have a symbol of their manipulation on the English flag.

www.michaelhyatt.com...

students.umf.maine.edu...

Obviously dragons are prevalent in the folklore of many regions and for the most part they signify ley lines. The Welsh flag is also a dragon but one that is not being manipulated.

balagan.org.uk...

reply to post by Cedik


makes sense this is something that i am looking at or has drawn me in to find my own truths gosh your very interesting refreshing me thinks

reply to post by serin sister


Serin, I thought you may wish to see this. It is a list of the major, minor vortices across the world.

I have visited Avebury and it is certainly a powerful place. I have also visited Nepal and am, as we speak, on my way to the Philippines. All seems a bit odd.

www.ofspiritandsoul.com...

Is there a map of ley lines that anyone would suggest? I've always found the topic interesting but never seem to be able to find enough information about them and where exactly they are.

reply to post by atzmaz


It is difficult to find a map of all ley lines as they actually follow the pattern depicted by our veins, arteries and capillaries. Therefore wherever you are, you are bound to have some form of ley line fairly close to you, even if it is a small one.

If you let me know your approximate location I will try and find information for you. One of the main problems in identifying an overbearing map is that no-one has ever doused the entire planet, may of the more significant lines are under the sea.

This a map I found of ley lines in Europe

www.vortexmaps.com...

To be honest, i do not know how useful this map is as it will certainly not have been doused totally.

This one of England

www.despatch.cth.com.au...

And this which will further add to the evidence that the powers that be actually know what they are doing.

www.ahsoc.fsnet.co.uk...

Hi Cedik. I am based North France. Any Map? As I am interested to look for evidence.