Iran Said to Have Enough Nuclear Fuel for One Weapon

Originally posted by mind is the universe

Originally posted by jd140

Originally posted by mind is the universe

Originally posted by centurion1211

Still, IMO neither arabs or persians should have nuclear weapons.

WHY?

If I can have an apple, then an arab can have an apple.

If I'm not allowed to have that apple then, the arab can't have it.

If we fight over it, then no one can have the apple.

If I have an apple, then I have to respect the fact the arab want's an apple.


Today's simple wisdom for you

I hope you get the message rapidly.
Of how silly your point was.

Whats good for the goose isn't good for the gander.

Some simple wisdom for you courtesy of my grand pappy.

My wisdom to you,

Disern what's good for the goose isn't for the gander in this scenario

I'm all ears

Thats a question, not words of wisdom.

I could say that Iran is led by a madman who has already threatened to wipe out Isreal, hates America and your all around sociopath. But then you would say something along the lines of who put us in charge of telling other countries whether they can or cannot have a nuke.

It would go back and forth with neither one of us giving an inch on how we feel about it. So what would really be the point?

Isn't this exctly what happened in the preceding times leading up to the first gulf war. it seems to me that the war machine is in full swing again. demonise the potential enemy, make your own people believe they are threatened, build up the hatred etc etc, The next we'll hear is Osama is being given protection in Iran.

Originally posted by jd140


Thats a question, not words of wisdom.

I could say that Iran is led by a madman who has already threatened to wipe out Isreal, hates America and your all around sociopath. But then you would say something along the lines of who put us in charge of telling other countries whether they can or cannot have a nuke.

It would go back and forth with neither one of us giving an inch on how we feel about it. So what would really be the point?

Well the fact is he's not behaving like a madman. Unless you can prove to me and everyone that he is, be my guest. I have got this thrown at me a bagillon times, and all of them who repeated the same crap you just spewed ended up walking away saying nothing.

You don't know the reality. Why, cus you just fall for the propaganda the politicians and media tell you.

The Iranian leader has not threatened any country. It has been debunked on every single war mongering thread. The Iranian leader has no advantage in going to war with Israel or the USA. Iran is a peaceful soverign nation. It's a democratic country. The people are friendly. The Iranian leader has shown alot of Diplomacy if you care to actually open your eyes and see for yourself, instead of watching fox news all day.


This man, is a legend. Why because he has continuously shown his respect and control despite the taunts and bullying he has recieved since Jan 07 when USA and Israel officially declared war on Iran. He has ignored the lies and propaganda, and remained through to his stand. That is a true respectful leader. If he really wanted Israel wiped off the map he would have done so already. Bear in mind, Israel are giving him every opportunity to do so. But you see, He's a smart man, He isn't playing their games. Actions speak louder than words. His actions are showing loud and clear. No matter what the American media states about him. I hope you become wiser and more aware of the reality


Even G.W bush is eating his own words lately and is putting the tail behind his legs in the last few weeks on his departure to try patch up his idiotic presidency by calling for diplomatic talks with Iran. Wouldn't this suggest that Bush was the madman, or does Bush really think the Iranian leader is a mad man afterall Again actions are speaking louder than words pal. Wake up.


I'm sorry to say but you sound like you haven't a bulls notion about the reality.

Originally posted by whoswatchinwho
Isn't this exctly what happened in the preceding times leading up to the first gulf war. it seems to me that the war machine is in full swing again. demonise the potential enemy, make your own people believe they are threatened, build up the hatred etc etc, The next we'll hear is Osama is being given protection in Iran.

I see the pattern aswell. It's clearly obvious.


It's retarded to be quite blunt.


It's on the television for the last two years. The politicans have been spewing this Iran - Israel war over and over. It's getting really really silly.


I just laugh at them all.
It's hilarious, when you hear the Nazis brainwashing. George Bush get's his colourful bendable map.

Point's the people the "Axis of evil" we must go get this evil


Sure if they are so evil, why can't the politicans go get them? Why do the people have to go fight them.
Dooper says this and that country is bad, so why don't people like Dooper go fight them?


Are we clear people?

Originally posted by mind is the universe

Originally posted by jd140


Thats a question, not words of wisdom.

I could say that Iran is led by a madman who has already threatened to wipe out Isreal, hates America and your all around sociopath. But then you would say something along the lines of who put us in charge of telling other countries whether they can or cannot have a nuke.

It would go back and forth with neither one of us giving an inch on how we feel about it. So what would really be the point?

Well the fact is he's not behaving like a madman. Unless you can prove to me and everyone that he is, be my guest. I have got this thrown at me a bagillon times, and all of them who repeated the same crap you just spewed ended up walking away saying nothing.

You don't know the reality. Why, cus you just fall for the propaganda the politicians and media tell you.

The Iranian leader has not threatened any country. It has been debunked on every single war mongering thread. The Iranian leader has no advantage in going to war with Israel or the USA. Iran is a peaceful soverign nation. It's a democratic country. The people are friendly. The Iranian leader has shown alot of Diplomacy if you care to actually open your eyes and see for yourself, instead of watching fox news all day.


This man, is a legend. Why because he has continuously shown his respect and control despite the taunts and bullying he has recieved since Jan 07 when USA and Israel officially declared war on Iran. He has ignored the lies and propaganda, and remained through to his stand. That is a true respectful leader. If he really wanted Israel wiped off the map he would have done so already. Bear in mind, Israel are giving him every opportunity to do so. But you see, He's a smart man, He isn't playing their games. Actions speak louder than words. His actions are showing loud and clear. No matter what the American media states about him. I hope you become wiser and more aware of the reality

Even G.W bush is eating his own words lately and is putting the tail behind his legs in the last few weeks on his departure to try patch up his idiotic presidency by calling for diplomatic talks with Iran. Wouldn't this suggest that Bush was the madman, or does Bush really think the Iranian leader is a mad man afterall

Again actions are speaking louder than words pal. Wake up.


I'm sorry to say but you sound like you haven't a bulls notion about the reality.

Thanks for the insults. I'm glad to see that you are the type who resorts to insulting those who do not agree with you.

This is what I meant when I said "What would be the point". Apparently you missed it or decided to ignore it so you could try and continue this little debate with me. Next time don't throw around the word pal, assume where I get my news, tell me to wake up and tell me I am out of touch with reality. It makes you sound like an ass.




[edit on 20-11-2008 by jd140]

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The root of Iran - US hostility is the Students revoluiton of 1979 in Iran and the subsequent US Embassy hostage drama. The attitude of US towards Iran has ever since been acerbic. Partly we may admit though because it is a muslim country. Iran has not directly instigated US on anything. Not that I am a Iran sympathiser, but the geo political equations in the global arena have changed a lot in the last few years.

Russia is slowly coming back to be the powerhorse that it was. It has even signed a nuclear deal with Iran. In such a ploarized scenario the freinds of US are far and few and US needs to rethink its policy towards Iran.

I remember that both Obama and Hillary had promised that they are open to initiating a direct dialouge with Iran if they are elected President. its time now for Obama to act on iran and end the hostility.

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Stick to the topic, and play nice
If you dissagree with me, back up your points. You haven't done so. If you think I'm wrong on my judgment's, try correct me. You haven't done that either.

Instead you reduce youself to a temper tantrum.

Lay off the name calling, and get some rest.


I've shown you the reality, that is actually happening right now. The logic seems obvious. You do repeat the stories from the news, so it's in my judgment that you are influnenced by it. Unless you can beg to differ on this.

You have repeated incorrect stories about the Iranian leader, Stories and accusations made by the western media that have been debunked over and over.

He has not threatened the anilation of Israel. You spilled the words out of your mouth, with no proof, evidence or facts.

It's not my fault you lie in ignorance.

[edit on 21-11-2008 by mind is the universe]

I think the thing that troubles most folks about Iranians having a nuclear weapon is that they seem overly emotional. Like they don't have good sense sometimes.

I laughed my head off when during the funeral procession of the Ayatollah Khomeini, they were jumping around while carrying his casket, and dumped the bastard right out of his coffin, and on the ground! A real class act.

Emotional people shouldn't have nuclear weapons. They don't have the emotional stability to have their fingers on the trigger. The absolutely outrageous claims we've all seen reported in the newspapers and television of the Iranian President demonstrates his lack of awareness and a man of very poor judgment.

In a world of yahoos who are a danger to the world and themselves, this ability to have a weapon by these people who are determined to have nuclear weapons cannot be allowed. It's like giving a six-year old a case of grenades.

The only way stubborn people become convinced that others statements are serious, is to make their decisions very, very painful.

Nuke Iran, get it over with, and let's get on with our other problems. This one doesn't deserve one drop of our blood. Why swordfight with Zorro when you have a Barrett .50 in your hand?

One day, one way or another, we will go to war. Now, or after Iran makes it more complicated?

Look,

I know most of you don't know where Iran is on the globe.

I know most of you would say it's in The Middle East somewhere.

Most of you wouldn't know that it boarders (is sandwiched between Iraq and Afghanistan)

Most of you wouldn't know Iran is the 18th largest country in the World. Over 70 million people. They have a Constitution established in 1979 and a President. The Iranian Nuclear Program was launched back in the 1950s!

Look, I think you guys are really crazy right now. Your in a weird mood. Your riled up and angry. Don't be mad at Iran. They are not our enemy!

I am afraid of where this Country is headed and especially with the posts recently about President elect Obama and the outrage with his race...

The last thing America needs is another War. We are broke. We can't afford a war. We can't even afford our houses, how do you propose we pay for a third war? You have a couple million tons of gold?




[edit on 21-11-2008 by ConservativeJack]

reply to post by dooper


Why all the Iran hate? What have they done to you? Did you know they've not invaded anyone in hundreds of years? They are not causing problems for anyone, which is quite gracious considering the amount of problems other countries (*cough* US & UK *cough*) have caused them in the past.

To paraphrase a very wise man: "we must forgive you for the past, and you must forgive us for the present. Or, we will have no future".

reply to post by ConservativeJack


I can find Iran on the map. I know exactly where it is.

And I'm not pissed off.

The most miserable of human conditions is one of uncertainty.

To eliminate this uncertainty, one doesn't have to open up another war. Our nukes are already paid for, and sitting on standby. I assure you, we'll never miss a dozen or so.

No mess, no fuss, no redeployments, no budget constraints, no more problem.

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Still war mongering eh LMFAO..


Seriously it's getting really silly now. You have tried and tried to hope for this war until no end.

As I've told you already Go out and fight it then.


Otherwise stop this unacceptable ignorant behaviour. It is not acceptable to playing war games like you do on ATS. I'm making this loud and clear.

I will keep saying so Iran war is not going to happen. People know the reality. People see through the bull#. Capitalism is falling thankfully.

Bet you didn't like the last sentence did you

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Capitolism needs war, It's what controls the sheeple of the western world. Fight the "bad guys" in the east.

You get this Bull#, from fox news, government back news stations, the Whitehouse generally, pentagon and all other money war programmes etc

Oh and yes I almost forgot, the lies of the world, is mostly said in the pentagon


War is what makes a country follow our coruppted leader's. This is power and money making for the power's of be. It's not just about recources and oil in the ME. The government don't give a damn about the sheeple losing their homes, isn't that not evident already? now?

reply to post by mind is the universe

Oh, you just like to overreact. I'm not too concerned about Iran. We just elected a new President whose Chief of Staff is not only Jewish, but also a former member of the Israeli Defense Force.

Add that to the fact that he stated clearly that Iran would not be allowed nuclear weapons, and . . . well, you can see where this is going.

Things are definately looking up.

Unless you're Iran.

Originally posted by dooper
reply to post by mind is the universe

 

Oh, you just like to overreact. I'm not too concerned about Iran. We just elected a new President whose Chief of Staff is not only Jewish, but also a former member of the Israeli Defense Force.

Add that to the fact that he stated clearly that Iran would not be allowed nuclear weapons, and . . . well, you can see where this is going.

Things are definately looking up.

Unless you're Iran.

So the Jewish factor is another excuse to go against the people of America by gong into another war.

How is that acceptable after the excuses the Bush administrations made in their idiotic wars of the last 8 years.

You can bet this time around, things are changing. People are not going to fall for thie lies.

I feel more and more of humanity are awaking and realising that war, is becoming obselete.


But hey you keep digging

Originally posted by dooper

Nuke Iran, get it over with, and let's get on with our other problems.

That behaviour is not acceptable !!!


And your making a fool out of yourself, in thinking creating more problems will solve the problem!

What other problem's may I add?

reply to post by mind is the universe


Keep dreaming. The day war is obsolete, is the day the last man dies.

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Then you go out and fight that war, you "talk" about.

Talk the talk and walk the walk.


But I still see you digging

Originally posted by dooper
reply to post by mind is the universe

 

Keep dreaming. The day war is obsolete, is the day the last man dies.

You cannot know
That's what I'll say right now.

reply to post by mind is the universe

I've fought. I took my turn and then I took another's turn. Then for additional money, instead of rest and recuperation, I went out with the Nung's where I got paid $50 a head. Cash.

Bought a house when I got back.

How about you?

Or are you just theory?