Hate Crimes Surge in U.S. after Obama Election: Experts

Originally posted by ImaginaryReality1984
I said this would happen before the election finished. It didn't matter who won, there would have been racial tension.

Wow really? You're a genius! Nobody else said this

I think the only racists are the PTB- and they are only against class. EVERY last poor person can go to hell as far as they are concerned- and if they can get us to do the job ourselves...... less worry they have.

Or I should say 'them'- as in "Them the Sheeple". It's incredible- They stole from ALL of us. White, Black, Muslim, Jew, Gay, Lesbian, Christian, Asian- the list goes on.... and then stick a racial wild card puppet in so we'd all bash each other's heads in over that, easily forgetting about the bailout. And BTW- I dont care what crook they slid in there this week. Same as having a white puppet, or a female puppet.

I am almost ready to just say 'let the fools kill themselves. it'll clear the way for level headed clear thinking people who can actually try to *ahem* "You- know- what- to- who- and- how".

The French stomped their govt in the 19th(?) century because they were UNITED- and probably all French. Those of us who are left will need that same united front- screw the race, religion, and anything else. We're people, dangit!

The only one I've seen or heard of hanging is Palin. And there was no uproar about that.

If Palin was Black would a 'Hanging Palin' for Halloween be called free speech?

Source

Google it.

This must be the same Southern Poverty Law Center that helped organize the Oklahoma City bombings in conjunction with rogue agents within the FBI, CIA, ATF and Mossad? Of course.

I've since retired the 9/11, Oklahoma City, WTC93, USS Cole, USS Liberty and other false flag operations topics since the public never demanded a new investigation into these topics though I am hoping that with the new administration that there is hope that the evidence will be revealed.

International bankster controlled NWO needed these false flag operations to convince the people to give up their rights found in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Now they are free to do as they like without fear of repercussions in achieving their End of a Fascist one world govt. controlled by the money masters of the world. Broken record here.

What happened to the Freedom of Information Act? The voice and will of the people are still muzzled and justice has still been taken hostage.

Here is a link if interested:

Okahoma City bombing and the SPLC

[edit on 19-11-2008 by Perseus Apex]

Interesting little fact about hate crimes.

Hispanic victims are counted separately under race.

Hispanic offenders are counted as white.

Makes it easy huh? Makes sense to have an extra category under "victims" but when counting offenders they suddenly lose their hispanic identity completely.

www.fbi.gov...

Originally posted by mullet35
This does not surprise me at all after all America is one of the most racist countries in the world and thats not about to change anytime soon.

Well, it wasn't always like this...
I was born in 1963, and I remember a time when America was mainly all white. We pretty much all got along. I remember when there were no Mexicans east of the Mississippi River. The only Asians you ever saw were in a Chinese restaurant. Occasionally, you'd see the rare Indian with a turban shopping in a mall or something. The blacks lived always in a subsection of a major city. For the most part, when I grew up in America back then, the world was white. TV was white. Movies were white. Music was white. News was white. Entertainment was white. That's all changed. No longer does majority rule.

It's been my observation, that the more races and cultures that blossom in America, the more the tension increases. It stands to reason that if you throw a bunch of ethnicities, cultures, religions together, there will be sparks flying eventually. Too many cooks in the kitchen ruin the meal. The first wave of immigrants that arrived on Ellis Island all wanted very badly to become Americans and integrate. They did. Many of the cultures coming in now just want a bite of the apple, but don't want to be an American. More tension...

I miss the old days. If you grew up back then, you'd know what a much nicer America this country was. I'd take that time period back then over any today. Political correctness is ruining America.

Originally posted by Sonya610
Interesting little fact about hate crimes.

Hispanic victims are counted separately under race.

Hispanic offenders are counted as white.


www.fbi.gov...

A note to add -
In addition to that, they are encouraged to register as white in any form they fill out. The 2000 census had census workers going door to door in hispanic neighborhoods to help fill out the forms. I had friends tell me that the census workers told hispanics to file as caucasian.

The obvious facts are that the races are pitted against each other to further the agendas of the media/politicians/special interests.
I have friends of many races and religions and I know that most Americans can and do respect each other. This race issue is being rebuilt into a big monster issue for a reason and it isn't because the caricatures they are using as examples in the news don't like each other.
Citizens of all races should be more worried about the manipulations of the system not about this overblown BS they are feeding us in the news.
They want us to hate each other and there is a reason behind it.

Originally posted by Question
If anything, I have actually seen more articles (here on ATS in any case) pointing out the opposite. Where blacks are taunting, mocking and threatening whites after their "messiah" won the election. Oh but you'll never hear the MSM say that. If they do, they'll end up making some ridiculous excuse like "They're simply expressing their pride in finally having one of their own as president"

Yes there is a lot of smugness coming from the Obama supporters, which is unfortunate. But people should be more tolerant of immature stuff like that, if people want to act like trash because someone the same colour as them won the election, then really that's too stupid to even get annoyed about.

Originally posted by rapinbatsisaltherage
reply to post by TKainZero

 

If you are a white, christian, person in california, stay inside...

You have to love the internet, another white Christian on ATS claiming they are being persecuted? Would you have the nerve to say that in public, possibly to a gay, African American atheist?

I think people are racist towards whites and sometimes discriminate against religious people, but in America no one is safer from persecution than you, and no one has persecuted more than you.

Thank you so much for being here on this forum.

We need you so much.

reply to post by DimensionalDetective


hate crimes started before the election, in my state of Oklahoma this white lady went to go vote, she had a McCain sticker on her car, the blacks at the voting place harassed her to where she didnt feel safe to go vote, they chased her off.
In florida a 12 or 14 year old girl wore a palin t shirt to school the kids harassed her calling her a raciest when she wasnt. I find it sad that this is what the nation has become (full of hate).

I love how people turn it around.

"OMG, well it happens to whites too!"

Maybe it does. How does that justify anything? Hate crimes, regardless of who the victim is, are terrible.

Instead of trying to justify things in your head to make Obama the bad guy, why not say, "Damn that sucks that America is still so full of dumb bigots"?

I guess that's too much to ask from people who use blogs as sources.

I myself think Obama is no different tham Mc Cain or Bush. He voted for the bailout, will not end the wars, will not get rid of the FED. You do not get to be president in USA without the approval of the real rulers. See Ron Paul.

Those white people that hate black people because Obama is black, or the black people thinking they have an ally or something, they are totally lost.

I've said it before, there are at least two generations of white kids reacting to false accusations of racism. MLK understood what keeps the ball of hate rolling, ... how soon we forget.

Originally posted by Irish M1ck
I love how people turn it around.

"OMG, well it happens to whites too!"

Maybe it does. How does that justify anything? Hate crimes, regardless of who the victim is, are terrible.

Instead of trying to justify things in your head to make Obama the bad guy, why not say, "Damn that sucks that America is still so full of dumb bigots"?

I guess that's too much to ask from people who use blogs as sources.

Its called diversion and spin, a form of propaganda. I wish people would stay on topic. If they want to complain about incidents involving blacks on white, they can start a new thread.

Personlly I despise any form of racism and discrimination. Specially nowadays we live in a globalized economy and we are all on the same ship and depend on people across the globe. We are all brothers and sisters, stop the hate, our fate is shared.

if this was posted by a non-expert, all you'd ever hear is the term 'anecdotal evidence'. that said, any single event can be 'engineered' wit relative ease:


www.abovetopsecret.com...

and without any chance of meaningful investigation. false flag actions are real, both in PR and violence and it is, i dare say, a common occurence.

[edit on 2008.11.20 by Long Lance]

Im white and I think its white people that are the most racist tell you the truth. Im not racist but growing up in NYC and living here my whole life for 28 years Ive seen alot, from living in A mostly Black and Spanish neighborhood (Bronx) for ten years to working in A rich white area Manhatten for 9 years you learn,see,and hear alot. Most of these racist people were raised by their parents to think like this in my opinion or grew up with only people with the same race all they life. I heard so many times whites use the N word its crazy,just listen on the internet (example)XBOX LIVE these young kids saying this racist word so much I think to myself where to they learn to talk like this. Its A shame because it just makes other people the same way (any race) On the topic yes I think hate crimes are gonna surge because these racists cant stand it.
So many crimes so far and he aint even in the white house yet

Another thread filled with racists comments from racists white folks. Why am i not surprised and why isn't this thread being moderated properly? Did the various police services of various states suddenly fire the overwhelming majority of white police officers so as to allow African-Americans to suddenly start attacking the 'endangered' white 'species'? Sure you can expect a backlash given the racial slurs and generally racists republican campaign and i would be very surprised if things don't get a good deal worse before they get better as these white supremacist figure out that Obama's staff is filled with Clinton and Bush era people. So much for a 'black' agenda.

These types of threads are a serious indictment of ATS standards and is making a mockery of the presumptive standard to 'deny ignorance'.

I suggest someone with good sense and the power to do so does something before this gains attention from all the closet racists around here.

Stellar

reply to post by rocknroll

Exactly, the United States is going down a path to being the next Yugoslavia. Multicultural/multiethnic nations cannot and do not survive.

reply to post by StellarX


I did not see anything that I would consider racist in this thread. People just commented that they were seeing more black people acting racist than white people in their daily lives. The ATSer that called racist!

It's not about race it's just about honesty

Here are some more shocking statistics: More than 1,600 Whites are murdered by Blacks each year. Blacks murder Whites at 18 times the rate Whites murder Blacks.

About 1 million Whites were murdered, robbed, assaulted, or raped by Blacks in 1992. In the last 30 years, 170 million violent and nonviolent crimes were committed by Blacks against Whites in the U.S. Blacks under 18 are more than 12 times more likely to be arrested for murder than Whites the same age.

Some 90% of the victims of race crimes are Whites. Blacks commit 7.5 times more violent interracial crimes than Whites, although they comprise only one-seventh of the White population.

On a per-capita basis, blacks commit 50 times more violent crimes than Whites. Some 27 million nonviolent crimes were committed in the U.S. in 1992 alone. 31% of the robberies involved Black offenders and White victims; only 2% involved White offenders and Black victims.

1.3 million of the 6.6 million violent crimes committed in the U.S. each year are interracial. Between 1964 and 1994, more than 45,000 people were killed in interracial murders in the U.S., compared to 58,000 Americans killed in Vietnam and 38,000 killed in Korea.

DOJ stats okay

It's real and can't be washed away by denying it or saying all race crime is Bad

Distribution of single-offender victimizations, based on race of victims, by type of crime and perceived race of offender - Year 2002
Offender victim Estimated number of victimizations (1)

Crimes of violence- (3)
White Black
100 111

Black White
466 205

Black Black
460 388

Completed violence - (3)
White Black
16 017

Black White
162 718

Black Black
157 559

attempted/threatened violence - (3)
White Black
84 187

Black White
303 535

Black Black
302 643

Rape/Sexual Assault - (3)
White Black
8 448

Black White
17 572

Black Black
51 042

Robbery - (3)
White Black
7 125

Black White
61 397

Black Black
60 021

>> Completed/property taken- (3)

White Black
7 111

Black White
49 714

Black Black
43 679

>> With Injury- (3)

White Black

/ (2)
Black White
13 530

Black Black
20 700

>> Without Injury - (3)

White Black
7 101

Black White
36 131

Black Black
22 989

>> Attempted to take property(4) - (3)

White Black

/ (2)
Black White
17 762

Black Black
16 364

>> With Injury - (3)

White Black

/ (2)
Black White
6 036

Black Black
5 230

>> Without injury- (3)

White Black

/ (2)
Black White
5 669

Black Black
11 144

Assault- (3)
White Black
84 903

Black White
387 366

Black Black
349 372

>> Aggravated - (3)

White Black
22 128

Black White
70 082

Black Black
101 259

>> Simple - (3)

White Black
62 478

Black White
316 720

Black Black
247 864
(1) Estimate based on the NCVUS - table 42 - total number of victimizations per race and % perceived offenders by race
(2) The absence of number means the Department of Justice could not find enough victims in its population sample for this type of crime to establish a statistic.
(3) - Means Whites have victimized less Blacks than Blacks have victimized Whites + Means the opposite


There will always be some racism

But with 1/5 the population

Black on white crime is EPIDEMIC

The numbers are appalling it's not just racism it's overt infighting. prelude to a tragedy if white people start to defend themselves

I am treated like pure garbage by the Black community at large, I have never been assaulted or attempted to be robbed or harassed in the street in my life except by Black Males

Period

It's outrageous the issue is ignored

In the United States in 2005, 37,460 white females were sexually assaulted or raped by a black man, while between zero and ten black females were sexually assaulted or raped by a white man.

The argument that most People are decent is essentially Valid

I agree with that, I like most people period

But that there is a serious problem here within the Black community in regards to Violent Racism is not being addressed

and It WILL one day blow up in all our faces

so the real question is, should we address this as Racism?

Or address the issue within specific communities of people that harbors this kind of hatred and do something to correct it before it is too late and all the decent people Black and white get brought into the situation?

There is simply a serious problem here that needs to be addressed and it comes down to CULTURE and BELIEFS not race, there is an Angry Violent cross section of African American males

and the community has never addressed it out of fear... hoping it will go away, but it gets worse all the time...

Thug Culture dominates Black Youth, if an Aryan movement was that prevalent in white society, mostly our own parents would step in and correct it... it exists but by culture it remains frowned upon, education into the topic persists and it remains contained successfully


While in the Black community there is a perception that it is warrented because of the past...

But I have no part in the past nor do most white people alive today and the ones that are, they are OLD

It deserves to be looked at honestly... like any disease it can be cured before it becomes a Cancer