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JW's Role in the NWO

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posted on Nov, 19 2008 @ 12:59 AM
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WoW this is how it starts with a few ideals that hit like a bolt of lighting.

A select few entangled with the ideas that total world control can be done is truly possible. This thought comes from readings of many different sources. Freemasons has a lot to do with it, in the pursuit for what is thought to be true enlightenment (knowing the Unknown). The mixed entanglement of religion and government set the stage for the Freemasons. I say 'Freemasons' because Freemasonry beliefs are in the true light of new civilization domination.

Background for my thoughts.

Charles Taze Russell, former President/Founder of the Jehovah's Witnesses was in more ways a Freemasons then thought to be believe and despite the JW's accounts of their religious leaders start. C.T. Russell's pursuit for the knowledge of the unknown enlightinment led him to this entanglement. Brought up in Presbyterian and Congregational Churches he denouncing them on the grounds of 'Hell'. Saturday Aug. 6 1910, Russell says that after rejecting orthodoxes, 'I Bowed my knee, and worshiped an unknown God, saying "Great Creator who made me, I reverence thee... My heart found rest..." This started me to look for a divine revelation'. He became intrigued with religious ideas that came for imagination and a belief in mysteries and hidden knowledge. Back to the Freemasons, a strong anti-Freemason campaign hit Pennsylvanian, prior and during Russell's life, just like the anti-liquor and anti-abortion campaigns of the late century. Churches had to take a stand for or against Freemasonry. Most of the denominations did take the stand against the secret Freemasons for a while. By 1889 the Masons had gained ground within the churches. The Alabama Grand Lodge reported in 1889 that out of 7,950 Freemasons in the state 483 where Christian ministers. The New York Grand Lodge report of 1890, 703 Christian clergymen there where N.Y. Masonic members. Just to name a few; you understand it spreads like wild fire! Russell showing no interest in the anti-masonic campaign, calling Pope Leo XIII his hierarchy as agents of the Antichrist or "Babylon the Great". Considering Russell rejected the orthodox doctrines, it seems rather Masonic-like that he dislikes the Catholics to such an extreme. A book written by Russell in 1891 'Thy Kingdom Come' defilements and persecutions of the Pope are mentioned. Due to this book JW's in lack of a better word HATE Catholics and Protestants equally. If Russell really believed in his message and that God was behind him, why did he feel heathens would come more readily than Catholics to his message? If Masons where supporting him, this might offer an explanation that would make this more understandable. Russell's own claims to have studied eastern religions listing several like Buddhism, Hinduism, an Islam. Most of the religions he studied where along the lines that Masonic Eastern Star would study of the Egyptians and Middle East paganism that is so important to Masonry.

Now to the theory.

Most if not all, in their Kingdom Halls, Jehovah's Witness will be called to rally in a few locations where they will be 'safe' before the infamous 12-21-2012 and/or shortly there after. This will be the start of WWIII (Nuclear). Once 12-21-2012 comes there will be little in the way of forward motion in the JW's religion. Believing that Jesus has come back to them and will fulfill the proficy that their religion will prosper and fill the earth for a 1000 years bring it back to a coherent livable state or God's true return to the earth. World leaders/ bankers/ Freemasons will provide this false hope to them in the way of mass land reclamation and killing off people down to 5% of the global population. Giving the land back to the JW's to work and feed the few locations of massively populated areas (LA, NY city, ext.) of NON-JW's. Where-as the JW's will believe hole heartily that Armageddon has come and never see the val pulled over their own eyes.



posted on Nov, 19 2008 @ 01:38 AM
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I am one of Jehovah's Witness, and I can only say to you the obvious, which is that you are entitled to your OPINION. Without getting into a debate, I also have to say that I disagree with your opinion and would like to encourage everyone to visit the Jehovah's Witnesses Official site to find out what our beliefs are, and to feel free to use the search option to look up any topic. Or simply ask any Witness that knocks on your door


www.watchtower.org...

just wanted to add one more thing.... that I also studied and practiced other religions, including astrology in my quest for God.

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posted on Nov, 19 2008 @ 01:57 AM
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The research is true, I do have the right to my own opinion and that is where I came up with the notion. Choice and Freedom are the only two true things we as humans are concerned with, just like Love and Hate are the only true emotions we fell and are the root of all others.

I don't mean to dog, the JW's in any way my father is one. I'm just stating what I see. I too have studied

The statement about the JW's and there HATE for Catholic and Congregational Churches was back from the start. I know you don't hate them now, nor have you in your life time.

A few References to Charles uses of Masonic Lodges

They were meeting in the Masonic Halls back during Russell's leadership, and have continued after they split with Rutherford. For instance the Souvenir Notes of Watchtower Convention at Cincinnati,O. Feb. 23-Mar.1, 1908 p.154 states " ...and as many friends visit Chicago and desire to know where we meet, we therefore state that after May 1st we will meet as follows: Sunday, 3p.m. -- In MASONIC TEMPLE (Corinthian Hall), State and Randolph Street."

Such was the case in South Africa, where in 1910 onwards Johnston held regular meetings of the International Bible Students in the Masonic Hall on Smith St. (1)

It was also the case in Melbourn, Australia, where from the earliest times the Masonic Hall on Collins St. was used (2)

(1)1976 Yearbook. Brooklyn, NY:WTB&TS, 1975, p.76&78
(2)1983 Yearbook. Brooklyn, NY:WTB&TS, 1982, p40

It's certainly worth pointing out, how in a day and age when a number of mainline churches would have considered useing a Masonic Lodge for service repugnant, Russell had no qualms about rubbing shoulders with the Masons. But then Russell held meetings in various churches, such as a Wesleyan Methodist and the Baptist church. He also used the Y.M.C.A. on a number of occasions for public meetings, besides of course such public edifices as music halls. *(I.B.S.A Convention Report)

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posted on Nov, 19 2008 @ 02:23 AM
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I too am one of Jehovah's Witness. Very creative theory you have OP,Keep them coming, its always amusing hearing what other people "think" i believe.


I guess thats part of the reason why there continues to be a need to go from door to door relaying bible truths and dispel rumors


Maybe one day i wont need to.



posted on Nov, 19 2008 @ 09:13 AM
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Yes, we've come a long way... JW's in the early days use to also celebrate Christmas, which everyone knows we don't since it was understood that it is a pagan celebration. They also use to smoke tobacco (these are just a few examples) So as an organization, we make changes when we need to, when Biblical teachings or principles are better understood we as a group make the necessary changes. It's one of the things to attracted me to the JW's, that they are humble enough to admit their flaws, and humble enough to admit where change needs to be made, which is what is to be expected by an organization led by Jehovah God's Spirit.



posted on Nov, 19 2008 @ 10:20 AM
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Originally posted by Solan
The statement about the JW's and there HATE for Catholic and Congregational Churches was back from the start. I know you don't hate them now, nor have you in your life time.


this was the red flag for me.

denouncing an organization doesnt mean that its members are hated.

you make it sound like JW´s hiss everytime they pass a catholic.

when you get a chance, read rev.Hislop´s ¨the 2 babylons¨ and you will see where russell could see that the church was not doing what it was suppose to do.

i believe the JW book ¨revelations, a grand climax at hand¨ goes into the church´s fumblings and why they as an organization stand condemned.



posted on Nov, 19 2008 @ 10:49 AM
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Intresting opinion. I can't really comment since I think the whole NWO thing is probably far from the truth. But a good haze to keep us form knowing the truth, whatever that may be.


I'm an atheist myself with a strong dislike of organized religion. However, I think that JWs are one of the only denominations that could truely call themselves Christian - as in being "christ-like". They work hard, they practice what they preach, the follow the law, they raise good kids, and they are generally nice upstanding people.



posted on Nov, 19 2008 @ 01:29 PM
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Originally posted by Merigold
... I think that JWs are one of the only denominations that could truely call themselves Christian - as in being "christ-like". They work hard, they practice what they preach, the follow the law, they raise good kids, and they are generally nice upstanding people.


I can't agree more on this truth, but minuplation is everywhere, and those with an open mind can see this.

Parents have more of a outstanding influence on children. My father is currently in divorce proceedings and was told by my little 11 year old brother that he hates his father , and doesn't want to ever see him again. All because of words my step-mom has filled his mind with. The boy has no real reason to Hate his father, always treated fair , always loved , tough right from wrong, always reading the WT&TS yet a single parent can do more harm than good if they want.

The ubiquities qualms of truth and untruth all based on choice.


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