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A Look at the Fed

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posted on Nov, 18 2008 @ 01:31 PM
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Why have we allowed this country to be controlled by bankers and corporations? This is not what was intended when the United States was founded. Our currency (as commanded in the U.S. Constitution - Article 1 Section 8) was to be printed by the government with no interest charged and no debt accrued. Whether it is backed by gold, silver, or nothing is of little to no consequence as any way you look at it these are merely perceived values. The government sets the value, the government controls the value.

The way it works today is that a privately (due to private stock ownership) owned central bank, also known as the Federal Reserve, controls the value of money. Who owns this central bank?

The Government supposedly regulates the Fed however no audit has ever been done by Congress of this institution. The majority of Federal Reserve shareholders differs according to your source but you can expect it to look very similar to this:

1) The Rothschild Family - London
2) The Rothschild Family - Berlin
3) The Lazard Brothers - Paris
4) Israel Seiff - Italy
5) Kuhn-Loeb Company - Germany
6) The Warburgs - Amsterdam
7) The Warburgs - Hamburg
8) Lehman Brothers - New York
9) Goldman & Sachs - New York
10) The Rockefeller Family - New York
and many more….

With this revelation you can see who really controls the flow of currency and the fluctuation of markets. How did this happen? We let it happen through fear. The same fear that steals so many of our liberties today. The same fear that is pushed in our faces day in and day out by the Mainstream Media. Enter “The Panic of 1907” which was caused by F. Augustus Heinz (United Copper Company) as well as J.P. Morgan (for his attempt at acquiring the Knickerbocker Trust) which ultimately resulted in the creation of the Federal Reserve Act in 1913…

"This [Federal Reserve Act] establishes the most gigantic trust on Earth. When the President [Wilson] signs this bill, the invisible government of the monetary power will be legalized....the worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking and currency bill."
- Congressman Charles A. Lindbergh, Sr. , 1913

"I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."
- President Woodrow Wilson, after signing the Federal Reserve into existence

There have been two other known attempts in this country to establish a Central Banking system.

“The First Bank of the United States” (1791-1811) - The Bank was bitterly opposed by several founding fathers who saw it as an engine for financial manipulation, and corruption.

“The Second Bank of the United States” (1816-1836) – President Andrew Jackson had this to say after he abolished the Central Bank: "The bold effort the present bank had made to control the Government, the distress it had wantonly produced ... are but premonitions of the fate that awaits the American people should they be deluded into a perpetuation of this institution, or the establishment of another like it."

You can see from these attempts that the bankers have been trying to control this country for a long time. But some other interesting facts are hidden in our history that most people are unaware of….



posted on Nov, 18 2008 @ 01:31 PM
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During the Civil War President Lincoln, needing a way to finance the war, ordered congress to print a zero interest, government backed dollar called the “Greenback”. Seeing how dangerous this was for foreign bankers they remarked:

"If this mischievous financial policy, which has its origin in North America, shall become endurated down to a fixture, then that Government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off debts and be without debt. It will have all the money necessary to carry on its commerce. It will become prosperous without precedent in the history of the world. The brains, and wealth of all countries will go to North America. That country must be destroyed or it will destroy every monarchy on the globe."
- Hazard Circular - London Times 1865

After the Civil War Lincoln made an effort to make the Greenback a permanent legal tender, but unfortunately before this was finalized he was assassinated.

June 4, 1963, a little known attempt was made to strip the Federal Reserve Bank of its power to loan money to the government at interest. President Kennedy signed Executive Order No. 11110 that returned to the U.S. government the power to print money without using the Federal Reserve. With the signing of this executive order the Silver Certificate was created. After Kennedy’s assassination 5 months later, the issuing of the Silver Certificate was stopped. No executive order or appeal of any kind has since been used to abolish Executive Order No. 11110 which means that it is still valid, however not utilized by any current president.

People will dismiss this as conspiracy theory, they will say that the Fed is not privately owned, but the real question is…Why did the two predecessors to the Federal Reserve end with such opposition from our government? Why have Congressmen, President’s, and our Founding Fathers spoken so loathsomely of the Central Banks? The answer is simple, they knew what would happen to this country and its citizens if it was ever allowed to happen.

So I will leave you with this… Your Federal Reserve Notes are counterfeit due to the simple fact that they were not produced by a U.S. Government entity in accordance with the United States Constitution. They were printed out of thin air, and bought by our government for face value plus interest, forever keeping us in a debt controlled state. Your politicians are in bed with these banking cartels and would not be elected if it was not for the enormous amount of cash that is donated to their campaigns. The question is how to put an end to this large scale theft of America’s wealth?

This is meant to inform people about the history behind the Fed. If I have misquoted or am blatantly posting false information please let me know with references to correct information so that I can change my post.

“If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.”

-Thomas Jefferson



[edit on 18-11-2008 by ExistenceUnknown]



posted on Nov, 18 2008 @ 01:36 PM
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fantastic post and research



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posted on Nov, 18 2008 @ 02:36 PM
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Thanks, alot of this stuff is pretty common knowledge around here. But I thought this would be a good thing to read for people who are clueless on the subject.




posted on Nov, 18 2008 @ 02:55 PM
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Not only did we get the Federal Reserve act passed during the Christmas holiday but wait there's more...we got the two fer deal...we also got our favourite of US govt bureaucracies, the IRS or Internal Ripoff Service !

So our tax proceeds go directly to the owners of the Fed who then charge us on interest on the Billions they print out of thin air and lend to the US Government !

Another first for America...
The first revolving credit card ~~~!
Don't delay the purchase of that B2 Bomber...just Charge it !





posted on Nov, 19 2008 @ 07:57 AM
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Interesting stuff. Wouldn't it be nice to see the new president do something similar to Kennedy or Lincoln and send shockwaves through the banking system?



posted on Nov, 19 2008 @ 09:26 AM
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Originally posted by wdkirk
Interesting stuff. Wouldn't it be nice to see the new president do something similar to Kennedy or Lincoln and send shockwaves through the banking system?



It would be really nice, however very unlikely. If you have looked at Obama's campaign contributions you will notice a very grim trend. Some of his top donators are from Financial institutions. When you tally up the lobbying and the contributions to our politicians, it tells us whos interests they really care about.



posted on Nov, 19 2008 @ 11:04 AM
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What i've realised recently is that america is a face for this whole thing, a scapegoat because when your founding fathers fled to a new world they escaped this in europe but as was mentioned in the newspaper source europeans feared it.
Theres been ideas that europeans tried to split america with your civil war but they suceeded with the creation of the federal reserve where the bankers behind it are rothschild the german jews and the rest.
And now the european ministers keep using the term 'new order' or 'new global order', i think america is being controlled by europe and is the fall guy.



posted on Nov, 19 2008 @ 11:55 AM
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I knew some about this. Great post though, I learned more, thank you. I do have a question though...is the Federal reserve the same as the world bank?

[edit on 19-11-2008 by AKARonco]



posted on Nov, 19 2008 @ 01:52 PM
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No they are seperate entity's. The world bank is headed by Robert Zoellick and provides financial help to foreign countries. Whereas the Fed's sole responsibility is toward the U.S.



posted on Nov, 20 2008 @ 04:31 PM
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I posted this on another thread but it does seem very relevant to this one






www.pbs.org...

People & Events
J.P. Morgan


John Pierpont Morgan (1837-1913) began his career in 1857 as an accountant, and worked for several New York banking firms until he became a partner in Drexel, Morgan and Company in 1871, which was reorganized as J.P. Morgan and Company in 1895. Described as a coldly rational man, Morgan began reorganizing railroads in 1885, becoming a board member and gaining control of large amounts of stock of many of the rail companies he helped restructure. In 1896, Morgan embarked on consolidations in the electric, steel (creating U.S. Steel, the world's first billion-dollar corporation, in 1901), and agricultural equipment manufacturing industries. By the early 1900s, Morgan was the main force behind the Trusts, controlling virtually all the basic American industries. He then looked to the financial and insurance industries, in which his banking firm also achieved a concentration of control. Morgan was also among the foremost collectors of art and books of his day; his book collection and the building that housed it in New York City are now The Pierpont Morgan Library.


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J. P. Morgan

Joe Kennedy, William Randolph Hearst, JP Morgan and others were part of a powerful underground group. They created their own revenue and their own justice Thanks for the Memories: The Memoirs of Bob Hope's and Henry Kissinger's mind control slave by Brice Taylor p54

JoeIn 1913, the Morgans were the dominant American banking influence. Before I say anything more, you should know that J. P. Morgan was really - most biographers say and have said of him - that he was probably an agent of the Rothschilds...... So, in any event, in 1913, it was pretty clear that J. P. Morgan - The House of Morgan - was the dominant banking influence. But today, that seems to have shifted to the Rockefellers. There's no doubt in my mind today that the Rockefellers are the dominant banking force in the United States Interview with G. Edward Griffin, Author of 'The Creature from Jekyll Island'

At the turn of the century, people like Rockefeller and Morgan and Carnegie had decided that since they were at the top of the heap, they didn't want any more competition. They wanted to put an end to competition. ......when you look at these men sitting around the table at a clubhouse on Jekyll Island, all of a sudden you realize, "Oh my gosh, the Federal Reserve System is a CARTEL." And that is exactly what it is. It is not a government agency. It is a cartel no different than the banana cartel, the oil cartel, or any other. It just happens to be a banking cartel. That is the second thing that emerges from the study of what happened on Jekyll Island. Interview with G. Edward Griffin, Author of 'The Creature from Jekyll Island'

the first thing they were trying to hide at that meeting was the fact that the Federal Reserve System was written BY the money trust. The people who attended that meeting were the epitome of the money trust. These were literally the wealthiest men in the world. When you added up the wealth which was controlled by the seven men who went to that meeting .....they represented, approximately one-fourth of the wealth of the entire world. We're talking about the J. P. Morgan dynasty, the Rockefeller dynasty, Kuhn Loeb & Company, the Rothschilds from Europe, and the Warburgs from Germany and the Netherlands. These were the people who were represented at that meeting, and they are the ones who created the Federal Reserve System - supposedly - to break the grip of the money trust. Interview with G. Edward Griffin, Author of 'The Cremature from Jekyll Island'

Hitler’s main source of economic power was from the I.G. Farben chemical cartel, and I.G. Farben in turn was controlled by the Illuminati. The I.G. Farben cartel was created by loans from Wall Street in what has been called the Dawes plan. Carroll Quigley calls the Dawes Plan "largely a J.P. Morgan production." The J.P. Morgan Group set up the loan to I.G. Farben, which created Hitler. 'Without the capital supplied by Wall Street, there would have been no I.G. Farben in the first place, and almost certainly no Adolf Hitler and World War II." Henry Ford merged his German assets with I.G. Farben in 1928. The cartel created the lethal Zyklon B gas that was used to exterminate the Jews. It was also involved in the torture experimentations that led to mind control methods, such as Monarch Programming. Do you see what happened? A Rothschild agent set up a cartel that was directly involved in the horrible persecution of the Jews. Still the family maintains the illusion of being totally supportive of their race. At first Germany had a significant disadvantage if they were to embark on a second world war. The nation had a fuel shortage, but the Illuminati fixed this problem. The Germans were able to fight WWII through the use of synthetic fuels that were created by the hydrogenation process (turning coal into gasoline).
This process was discovered by I.G. Farben. Hydrogenation technology would not have been fully developed by WWII, but I.G. Farben made a deal with Rockefeller’s Standard Oil, who was able to complete the research, facilitating the war. Interestingly, I.G. Farben plants were not targeted by the bombing raids on Germany. By the end of the war the refineries had experienced only 15% damage. William Dodd, American ambassador to Germany before WWII, wrote President Roosevelt: "At the present moment, more than a hundred American corporations have subsidiaries here or cooperative understandings. 'The DuPonts have their allies in Germany that are aiding in the armament business. Their chief ally is the I.G. Farben Company... 'Standard Oil Company ... sent $2,000,000 here in December, 1933 and has made $500,000 a year helping Germans improve hydrogenation technology] ... ,,The International Harvester Company president told me their business here rose 33% year, but they could take nothing [earnings] out [except in goods]. ‘Even our airplanes people have secret arrangements with Krupps. ‘General Motors Company [which was controlled by the J.P. Morgan Group] and Ford do enormous business here through their subsidiaries and take no profits out." Germany needed the capital of these, and many more American companies in order to wage a war. I.G. Farben had a holding company in the United States called American I.G. Farben. Paul Warburg, his brother Max (head of Germanys secret police during WWI), and Warburg agent Herman Metz were some of the members of the board of directors of the American I.G. Farben. Other directors included Rockefeller/International banking men (Edsel Ford, Charies Mitchell, Walter Teagle, etc) . Three Germans on the Board of Governors were convicted as war criminals after the war, but the elite Americans fore-mentioned were not, even though they participated in the same criminal decisions as those who were punished. According to author Eustice Mullins, Hitier met with Allen and John Foster Dulles in 1933.
The Dulles brothers were acting as legal representatives of Schiff and Warburg’s Kuhn, Loeb & Co, which was an Integral part of the Rothschild network. Mullins claims Kuhn & Loeb had extended large short-term credits to Germany, and needed to ensure the repayment of these loans. The Dulles supposedly assured Hitler he would receive the funds necessary to be installed as Chancellor of Germany, if he promised to repay the debts. One of the largest tank manufacturers for Germany was Opel, which was controlled by the J.p. Morgan Group. Another company connected to the J.p. Morgan Group was Bendix Aviation, ‘which supplied data [to Germany] on automatic pilots, aircraft Instruments and aircraft and diesel engine starters.’ The examples go on and on. There is much more that could be written on this subject. The manufactured Pearl Harbour attack allowed Roosevelt to enter America into the war. A second world war had been created by the Illuminati, with the help of the Rothschild/Morgan/Warburg/Schiff syndicate. After the end of the war, the Tribunals that investigated Nazi war criminals censored "any materials recording Western assistance to Hitler," said historian Antony C. Sutton. Bloodlines of the Illuminati 11. Rothschild

Max Warburg funded Lenin and his revolutionaries. Jacob Schiff gave a known $20 million to Lenin. J.P. Morgan & Co. helped finance the Bolshevik revolution. Alfred de Rothschild also helped finance the Bolsheviks. Bloodlines of the Illuminati 11. Rothschild



[The Rothschilds] "preferred to operate anonymously in the United States behind the facade of J. P. Morgan and Company."
- Eustace Mullins


"By hundreds of thousands, hard handed Americans believed that Cleveland and Carlisle [Cleveland's Secretary of Treasury] had sold the credit of the Republic to the Morgans and the Rothschilds, and had pocketed a share of the price."
- The 'Morgan Bonds'


"Thereafter, Morgan appears to have served as a Rothschild financial
agent and went to great length to appear totally American."
- G. Edward Griffin

According to the highest law of the land, the U.S. Constitution, only silver and gold may be used as legal tender:

Art 1, Sec 10: No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility


How is it that the Federal Reserve Bank is owned by foreigners who have taken ownership of most of the U.S. with money they make out of nothing. Follow the money & you find the real criminals



posted on Nov, 20 2008 @ 04:45 PM
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Originally posted by ExistenceUnknown
No they are seperate entity's. The world bank is headed by Robert Zoellick and provides financial help to foreign countries. Whereas the Fed's sole responsibility is toward the U.S.



President Bush named Robert Zoellick as the next president of the World Bank.
This does not sit to well with me.

My opinion: the FED is not responsible to anyone but the FED.



posted on Nov, 20 2008 @ 06:00 PM
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Thats alot of very good information Azureskys. Hopefully people will take more interest in this subject. It's really very alarming when you dig deep enough. You are also correct that the president appointed Zoellick to head the World Bank. Both of these institutions don't, as you say, sit well with me either.



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