Pirates Capture Saudi Oil Tanker

Originally posted by Karlhungis
reply to post by t0ken

 

I thought the tanks ended up getting recovered after everyone started dying of radiation poisoning. Am I mistaken?

That was 2 separate incidents. One was the Russian tanks, etc and the other was a ship with mysterious content. Both happened around the same time but not sure if they were resolved. I'll try and find out and post any links I find.

Edit to add info on Ukranian ship with Russian tanks, etc.

"The best known was the September seizure of the Ukrainian container ship Faina, loaded with Russian tanks, weapons and ammunition. It remains hijacked." Source

I'm still trying to find out what happened to the other one.

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2nd edit re info on the other ship.

"But of even more interest than the Russian arms freighter is another hijacking that occurred in roughly the same time period. This incident involved an Iranian freighter: the MV Iran Deyant. The mystery is why this hijacking has been almost completely unreported, especially in the U.S. media. Somali pirates captured this state-owned Iranian merchant ship in August. It sailed from Nanjing, China, on July 28.........."

"So, what was the ship really carrying? Nobody is talking. Where was it really headed? Nobody knows for sure. The pirates released the ship back to Iran on Oct. 10, before the U.S. or NATO could get a good look inside."

Source



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Why can they not take back the ransom money once the pirates have released the ship and crew?
Obviously it is done through electronic wires, not cash in unmarked bills.
The government are all so good at monitoring and confiscating our money, why can they not track and confiscate these pirates ransom money?
And eventually the pirates will see that it is not profitable.
Swiss banks and offshore banks will happily send the IRS information on us and freeze accounts etc why would they not do it for something as criminal as this?

Lets go in and kick some ass. Lets carpet bomb the Somalians. Lets show them, good for nothing, rat-pack, thieving, black beard scum bags a lesson they'll never forgot

This wont stop till we stop negotiating and agreeing to payments and instead kill them all

Send in the SBS, slot the lot of them. Same with the next boat that gets taken. I can guarantee you will see a drop in piracy if they know the RMC or the SBS are going to come after them. You havent seen an embassy in London being taken recently have you!

My bloodthirsty 2 cents

Why not arm the target ships so they can protect themselves from the pirates?

I still don't see how you capture a freakin' oil tanker with a couple of little bitty boats and a dozen guys. Something as simple as a couple 100-pound blocks of concrete dropped from the deck of a tanker or container ship would, I think, send the pirates down to Davey Jones' locker quite efficiently.

A couple of M-60s mounted on the rails would also be most effective.

If the shippers are worried about pirates, they should take steps to protect their property.

I know I would.

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We all know the contraband and arms dealing in the area I doubt that money will be the sole ranson asked for.

Remember that big money is made keeping regions unstable and in the war path and for the littler guys fighting their righteous wars money is not what they have in mind, but it is for the big fat rats with the dirty hands.



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What are the odds of a haul this valuable being this easy to take?

Smells like a plant, to me.

Okay, I'm sorry to be asking such a ditzy and unsophisticated question but just exactly how does one go about hi-jacking such a big-ass ship? This isn't the 1700's. These boats are huge.

How do the pirates actually gain control of the boat? Do they threaten to blow it up with shoulder-fired missiles or something? If so, why aren't these boats equipped with defense weapons and/or a security team, especially boats traveling in this region?

Originally posted by kosmicjack
Okay, I'm sorry to be asking such a ditzy and unsophisticated question but just exactly how does one go about hi-jacking such a big-ass ship? This isn't the 1700's. These boats are huge.

AKA 47's and other weaponry is provided by Islamic Jihadists in Somalia.
A small group of men, with high powered weaponry, can easily accumulate upon a large scale ship and take control. Plus, with the presence of a larger pirate ship nearby, sailors have no choice but to capitulate.

How do the pirates actually gain control of the boat? Do they threaten to blow it up with shoulder-fired missiles or something? If so, why aren't these boats equipped with defense weapons and/or a security team, especially boats traveling in this region?

Ships across the Pacific, especially near Indonesia, are armed and well protected.

Breaking news....Hong Kong cargo ship has just been hijacked.

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I'd say all you need is half a dozen men with AK-47's, come up behind the tanker at night while the majority of the crew are asleep, throw a grapple hook up with a rope ladder attached, then storm the bridge and living quarters and bingo! you got yourself a ship.

Now to get it back I think they should send in the SAS Call of Duty 4 Style!

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New Zealand SAS deal with piracy around Indonesia in cooperation with Australian special forces too.

The SBS are currently undergoing training activities in South Africa and it is likely will be deployed off the coast of East Africa; British Indian Ocean territory - in the Indian Ocean - could be used as a potential operation base to combat the rise of piracy in the region.

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Well the Australian SAS are based in Perth WA.

So I guess it makes sense.

Sorry been posted.
Mods please remove.

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Originally posted by kosmicjack
Okay, I'm sorry to be asking such a ditzy and unsophisticated question but just exactly how does one go about hi-jacking such a big-ass ship? This isn't the 1700's. These boats are huge.

Hmmm i don't think i would wana mess with dozen skinnys aiming RPGs at my oil tanker from their little dingys.I would be better off surrendering than being deep fry kentuky chicken in all that oil in my tanker.

How do the pirates actually gain control of the boat? Do they threaten to blow it up with shoulder-fired missiles or something? If so, why aren't these boats equipped with defense weapons and/or a security team, especially boats traveling in this region?

I don't think arming the boats will help much if the pirates have armor piercing rockets.Just one of those buggers hitting the deck will make the ship crew end up in a titianic scenario eeekkk.

Alternatively I rather not take that dangerous ruote or take a longer route to get to my destination.The oil tankers and the rest of the ships should have known better than taking the risk.

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Maybe it's a group of out of work futures traders being they were shut down,maybe they think if they keep ship afloat long enough that oil will go up in price

Miliband: Britain will lead a force to tackle piracy in the Gulf of Aden

14:11 | 19/11/2008

David Miliband, Foreign secretary
BBC News

Mr Miliband announced that from next month Britain will be leading the European Union's foreign defense policy group, “that will tackle the scourge of piracy in the Gulf of Aden.

"That (group) will be commanded by a Royal Navy ship which will provide the headquarters for the European operation."

PoliticsHome

Does anyone know what happened with this story. There was a deadline but it's long past.

I tried Google, but I couldn't find any recent news.

Sigh...

"oh no, evil NAZIS, lets get 'em!"

"damn commies lets get 'em!"

"dem der darn terrorists, we need to kill 'em all!"

"arrr shiver me timbers, pirates! we must get 'em!"

It never gets old, if anything I'm starting to find the state of World affairs completely hilarious.
Doesn't affect me day-to-day, I don't care.

They're all the CIA in disguise anyway.

Originally posted by LazyGuy
Does anyone know what happened with this story. There was a deadline but it's long past.

I tried Google, but I couldn't find any recent news.

I finally managed to find a recent news article that mentions the Sirius Star.
The stories dated December 11th.

Source

The vessels include the Sirius Star, a Saudi supertanker with two British crew on board, which was hijacked on November 15. Negotiations are continuing for its release.

If you take a look at the ICC's map the number of piracy events is pretty astounding..

ICC Piracy Map

For what its worth - there are "Blackwater-like" companies that are in the armed escort biz just for this reason. Here is one of them..

BARS

Loolks like they'll do armed escorts - for a nominal fee of course.