Who took our freedoms? Did a terrorist take yours??

this probably could have been posted about 7 years ago, but i just thought about it today on the drive home from work...

i saw this bumper sticker:


the question that came to mind, was how exactly does he "fight for freedom"? if he's fighting for freedom, then how come there're so many restrictions right now in our country that limit our freedoms? with laws such as the "USA PATRIOT Act" ("Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism Act"), and "FISA" (Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act), how can one possibly think that we're truly free?!

when they say we're "fighting for freedom", are we fighting to defend our country from "terrorists", or are we really fighting our own government to get our freedoms that they limited back after the war? last i checked, our (mis)leaders took our freedoms, not the "terrorists" - the "terrorists" just gave them a reason to...

i've never agreed that we're a free country - we've just been freer than all the rest...

i think a more accurate message that the Marines could display is one that reads:

MY SON FIGHTS FOR OUR GOVERNMENT'S AMBITIONS

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will our freedoms be forever limited?? what sense does it make to fight for our freedoms over here, if they're fighting over there?? how does establishing democracy over there make us freer? do they seriously think they're going to wipe out terrorism? ...of course not! it appears that they're in it for selfish greed, not for us... war is the biggest money-making machine of all time!

what are everyone else's thoughts on this? anyone else feel this way?



[edit on 12-11-2008 by adrenochrome]

Great post again Adreno

I agree ..but ...no one took our freedoms ..we begged them to take it ..
They did alot of talking and manipulating with the boogey men under the bed ..anyone could be a terrorist ...we can offer you security but you must do as we say by allowing us to put cameras everywhere and listen on phones and of course we cannot do it unless you give us your permission to have more powers speeches ...and we said SAVE US SAVE US PLEASE >...please do what ever you have to do we dont care ......but save us from them ...
Oh yeah ..remember everyone saying .."If you dont have nothing to hide then why are you worried about the cameras and the phones etc etc "
(I know we didnt but the majority sure did )


Remember how everyone was so brainwashed (by the media and their propaganda was LOUD and CLEAR )and everyone was scared after 911 ...
And wanting blood for 911 ...which was why so many were for the war ..
No one really careing to actually see what was really going on .....
Or careing when WE WOULD TELL them from the housetops YELLING it ..
I remember well ..





[edit on 12-11-2008 by Simplynoone]

I retired from the Air Force some years ago. I took my oath to the constitution, not any politician.

I would like to offer this. George Bush once said "They" hate our freedoms. I know many of you could not even fathom the idea that George could tell the truth, but he did when said those words. In my opinion, George just pointed the finger in the wrong direction as to who our true enemies are.

Our troops are true heroes, there is no doubt in my retired military mind. Heroes that are only misdirected. This government is not of, by, and, for, the people. Its of, by, and for, the special elite, who are the representatives of our true enemies. One day I pray, that our heroes come home and fight the real enemy, that is within.

President Kennedy tried to warn the world in his secret society speech about these evil forces and was assassinated for his trouble.



President Kennedy's Spirit is alive and well, inside me! So to our loyal Heroic Military, come home, and take our Country back!

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yeah you're right! no one wants to feel that everything they've ever learned their entire life was a lie. no one wants to feel that they're wrong. it takes so much for someone to admit that they're wrong anymore, but people need to be more responsible for their actions, and take a step back with an open mind, if we are ever to advance on the same page!



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that quote is the best i've ever heard by any president, ever! i heard it for the first time in Zeitgeist, and right away i thought that the more people hear this, they'll realize that there really is more to the whole conspiratorial concept of secret societies after all!



also, check out this article/editorial, about a Liberian who considered all the extra security measures at the airport to be a nuisance:

This whole episode made me to think of the reality of “The New World Order” in which terrorism has altered our freedom of movement. It made me to begin to ask myself several questions. For example, why is there terrorism? Why has it disrupted our freedom of movement? Is it something new? Or what really is the cause for individuals or a group to engage in such acts? These are questions that led me to probe for some answers.

Based on several sources that I consulted, Terrorism is defined as a systematic, premeditated, and calculated use of violence as a means to coercion in order to change the behavior of individuals and institutions or to alter public policies. But in recent times, views on what constitute terrorism vary widely. For example, in the Middle East, where fighting has been going on between the Arabs and the Jewish State of Israel since 1948, the acts of violence by one group against another is seen as legitimate acts of war, depending on the side you are on or support. The same was true during the Colonial era in Africa and other places that experienced colonialism or suppression. During that period, assassination or guerrilla tactics were used.

However today, due to advanced technology, the choice of weapon and the battlefield have changed tremendously. We have graduated from lynching, cross burning, burning of churches, assassination, guerrilla tactics to “Cyberterrorism, Bioterrorism, Ecoterrorism, Economic Terrorism, Nuclear Terrorism”, which Porter Goss, chairman of the U.S. House Intelligence Committee referred to as “Cause-sponsored Terrorism.”

Both State-sponsored and Cause-sponsored terrorist activities are likely to be financed by such networks as drug trafficking, money laundering, private businesses, arms sales, and “blood” diamonds sales like in the case of Charles Taylor of Liberia and the Revolutionary United Front (RUF) rebels of Sierra Leone. These acts of violence are caused by Hatred, Greed, Poverty, Oppression, and Injustice.

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Terrorism Vs. Our Freedom