is this NASA video Proof that E.T.'s are trying to contact us ?

reply to post by FlySolo

Mike, those lights are ufo orbs forming a circle of light, something that is perceived from Earth as a saucer. Lots of our stone circles here in the UK were in my opinion and from experience of contact reality built to bring these ufo orbs down in a circle above the pattern.

reply to post by easynow


Let me tell you something you seem to already have noticed. These "debunks" and the cult which pushes them, might at first glance seem very "convincing" but when you think about it, put them all together, add up all the pieces, they are little more than shreds of illusion.

You can see one contradicts the other, one has one behavior, one has another, and on and on into a huge chain of coincidence and social mush.

Notice also tha NaSA dont issue these "simple explanations" they dodge the issues and hide because they dont do their own disinfo, someone else hands out the cookies to the front line.

You would think a whole team of NaSA specialists who know the equipment inside out, apparently have to calculate every single detail would have known about lens flares right, or could instantly have identified them?

Nope, apparently not, they needed someone ese to explain it once people found it all too fascinating. Now thats truly interesting, they can blast a man to the moon but they cant spot a lens flare in their own cameras?

Pull the other one, it has bells on.

Bear something in mind here we are "apparently" talking about an organisation that can use images to identify the makeup and elements on distant planets here....I mean if they cant spot a lens flare or another image entitiy, you do wonder how they can watch distant worlds and know what they are seeing at all

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reply to post by secretnasaman

And our dreams will come true!..Martyn Stubbs, now at the Boarderlands channel, TBLN.com, is going to RELEASE all his FULL and ORIGINAL NASA footage for xmas..HRS. of it and I am amped because even the skeptical ATS members will want to see it, in context and with Stubbs on line-" live " to answer Q & As

So I think this massive download will end this year very well and all the new Xmas software
will allow tons of new copyright cleared videos to be generated by anyone..not just some fancy film maker with Hollywood editing software and exclusive rights!!, and uploaded EVERYWHERE all the tubes...and let the REAL

Debate begin.. Right now, NASA has over 100 videos from the STS-75 flight including the Tether Break and

other "events" that were NEVER sent "out" ..so why don't they EVER show these OTHER videos from their different cameras?????
..because they all show the same thing as Stubbs got..UFOs..even Jim Oberg could not access them- they are officially EMBARGOED !! WHY??
so, the significance of this "ARCHIVE" will be huge and I believe END this crazy debate about authenticity and ice. So before everyone digs in too deep..

wait for the full unedited masters.. this should be just about the biggest UFO "news"
announcement around, yet, I seem to be the only one to know about it....so it's OUT and you heard it here at ATS first!!

i did see your post just so you know and i am very intrigued with the idea that more footage will be released !


thanks for notice on that because i had not heard about it

hope it's true

Sounds interesting, im sure the debunkers will be out shouting "those are just F-19s at high altitude"

Would be great to see all those videos though so hopefully they all come out.

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Originally posted by Malevolent_Aliens
reply to post by easynow

 

Just wanted to add:

That is how ET craft would appear coming from higher dimensions, they would show up as light objects, translucent looking to our physical eyes then materialize.

If you could look up into the sky and see all around you in the next dimension you would be amazed at what's there.

People would faint or have a heart attack probably.

Yes that sounds logical to me that E.T. craft would appear translucent in a way, and it's possible that Living craft could also appear that way and it may help to traverse different dimensional levels ?

speculation yes but makes sense to me.

i bet if you could see into the next dimension right next to where you were standing...most people would faint

Originally posted by silver6ix
reply to post by FlySolo

 

Its not their role to be honest, theirs is to sow the seeds of confusion.

Dont listen to me, dont listen to them, DONT listen to NaSA, just look for yourseleves, think for yourselves and see the world.

Im pretty sure that simple philosophy is a very powerful thing.

That may be. However, something along their way has misguided them. It would be nice to see them break the chains which have binded them in such a way they can not see. They put so much energy into convincing themselves.

Originally posted by silver6ix
Well that was great, but I seem to have missed the point of it, somehow it just doesnt seem relevant to anything except telling people what they already know.

I only posted that fact because there were a few posts at the start of this thread mentioning it, and no one seemed to know what it was.

Deny ignorance n all that...

As for your attacks on me, I'm actually on your side believe it or not, but I can't help you as long as you continue embrace ignorance...

reply to post by silver6ix


yes i agree it will be extremely interesting to see more video from Martyn Stubbs

just think if he never released anything we wouldn't have some of this footage to show us the truth about all this.

i am also aware of NASA tactics and usually they will not comment on UFO"s and send out people like Jim O'Berg to deflect and divide opinion.


www.jamesoberg.com...

also here is another vid that clearly shows an object/UFO that in my opinion cannot be ice.

reply to post by easynow


thanks for sharing,
I find this footage really really interesting and amazing!!!
I have no doubts about it,I mean Im sure that we are not alone in the
universe,but I think this is a good footage for those who still refuse to believe in Aliens
dont forget"WE ARE NOT ALONE"

Originally posted by easynow
reply to post by C.H.U.D.

 

ok thanks for the info you posted and according to what that info say's and what your implying is that the appearance of the tether critters is not the actual shape of them due to the possibility of lens flare of the camera ?

You're welcome easynow,

No - the lens flare itself won't have any affect on the objects, or how they appear (appart from the overall reduction in contrast).

It is however an important part of the footage, since it gives clues as to where the sun is relative to the camera/objects. Since the debunkers argument is that these objects are ice-crystals that are lit by the sun, the position of that light source (the sun) could play some part in the arguments, since the direction of light would have a bearing on how they might appear.

Anyway, as I said before, I only posted that info to clarify what was actually causing the effect, since a few people seemed to be confused by it...

reply to post by valefc

I think this is a good footage for those who still refuse to believe in Aliens

thanks

i will say that i am a believer mostly from my own UFO encounter but i agree that this footage will have to make any skeptic question themselves as being a skeptic.

this is proof that something is flying around in our atmosphere or inner space and even though there is no Alien waving at us in this footage i think the craft or whatever it is is waving at us

reply to post by C.H.U.D.


ok thanks for clearing that up for me

in the ufo hunters video(posted by Darthorious) the guy recreating the tether effects was implying that the lens flare would make it hard to determine if the critter/craft actually passed behind the tether.


i think the other debate over the tether video is that the camera is a 2-d camera focused to infinity and that has caused the objects to appear the way they do ?

i am no expert on camera's and such but i do understand some of it.

The title is a little misleading.. I wouldn't say that these Nasa videos prove that ET's are trying to make contact with us.

I would say that this is proof that ET's exist.

Ice Particles = no way

Space debris = no way in hell

ET's = highly probable.

You know, I don't understand why ET existence and presence is considered to be such a big deal. In a universe as massive as this one, is it so far fetched that such a thing could be a reality?

Personally, I don't think so.

Originally posted by chapter29
Easy E...easy does it - again.

Great thread...

You know, one sure tell sign that you have something of worth here - none of the "heavy weights" have chimed in...

Only the rookie debunkers...and for obvious reasons - as these videos clearly (opinion here) show craft of intelligent origin...unlike most of the debunking posts on this thread...

Thanks chapter29

well i am also surprised that there hasn't been more debunkers as i expected so maybe your right ?


time will tell i am sure....although i have this weird feeling that something is brewing and forthcoming and it aint coffee..:

sorry for not responding to your post quickly as i did see it when you posted but i have been swamped with trying to keep up and respond to everyone and i might have missed a few so i do apologise to anyone that feels i overlooked them.

HOLY SH#T! Everyone!!!! That is the exact orb i seen flying that i made a thread about a few months back! I seen it with my very own 2 eyes and ever since that day i became a believer that there is something out there other then us. Also that orb took of hella fast just like the video is showing. This is REAL people!

BTW, where is Mr. Penny and Phage? It's funny how I don't see these guys when they have to do some serious stretching. I'm curious as to what they will come up with. Especially Mikesingh's photo.

We also should not assume theres just one kind of "ET" with a single kind of motive, ive raised this point before but ill just mention it again, there are likely to be many with all sorts of agendas because life in the universe would be very diverse.

People speak often of the "grey", we could call them Genetic Reproductions id suppose shadows of a real. Id imagine every species has rogue elements, which doesnt neccessarily equate to a rogue species.

Id be guessing some people, humans and aliens alike very much like to "play god" rather than just live and learn and grow.

But that doesnt mean either that everyone on this world or the next is that way inclined nor that what might seem powerful and untouchable from the bottom up, isnt really anything new or novel, more a been there seen it done it, kind of experience.

Karma really is a powerful thing, what exactly karma is, well that I suppose would best be described id guess as nature itself, which im sure has many names.

Anyway, even big bad powerful schemes have to come to an end sometime, and big bad powerful people have to look up and learn humility and respect.

As with everything, keep an open mind and consider the possibilities for yourself, thats really whats important.

Originally posted by FlySolo
BTW, where is Mr. Penny and Phage? It's funny how I don't see these guys when they have to do some serious stretching. I'm curious as to what they will come up with. Especially Mikesingh's photo.

Probably in a skeptic psyops agenda meeting, im sure they will show up sooner or later.

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I thought this was on ATS already, but good for bringing it to everyone's attention OP.

I loved this video when saw it and also the first version of this series of such, showing the Masonic Flag on the moon and the masonic influence and links with the astronauts.

To be honest for me I TOTALLY IGNORE DEBUNKERS of aliens since watching "The Secret Nasa Transmissions The Smoking Gun"

Scientifically proven in that video, from his hundreds of hours of direct NASA footage that has been analysed by many many scientists all travelling at speeds so fast you don't even see them till the CCD is slowed down.

He presented direct line feeds from Nasa directly to a proper satellite TV stations equipment.

The footage has been analysed to death by so many experts and those who work within TV and have direct technical experience of how the equipment works.

Also that the UFO's are not immediately apparent.

You can observe them actually affecting the space shuttle doors.

NO one of any standing equivalent to his staff or other world renowned scientists who have viewed has ever been able to explain it.

Its on all the shuttle tapes too.

So since being interested but totally sceptical, esp in relation to maybe black op's being the cause for years, reading literally a hundred books on it, I sat down a couple of years ago watched the VID below and have KNOWN since that day that Sceptics have not looked at the evidence and would need to be Probed themselves in broad daylight on CNN and they would still say

WHERE IS THE PROOF.

WEll its here:

Google Video Link

And in the OPS especially video 2.

To say from my posted vid above there is no PROOF I say well where is the proof that electromagnetic waves are powering my wireless now?

I don't believe it Prove it too me, could be little men who are invisible running back and forth carrying little buckets of 0's and 1's.

Or can you really prove I am outside of your consciousness, out here?

The proof is here and has been for a number of years.

Kind regards,

Elf.

Originally posted by philjwolf
reply to post by easynow

 

the aliens are trying to make contact... by drawing a circle in space for our astronauts to see... and for nasa to film... they are so stupid that they cant think of a better way to say hello... so they attemp to make a circle... not really a circle.. but there was an arc there... the others didnt quite fall into place... they must be so stupid they dont quite have that circle part down yet... my 4 yr old grandaughter has a problem making them too.. (anyhow)... the whole circle thing that didnt quite work.. lasted just a few seconds.. Pathetic.

So you are saying your granddaughter is so stupid also??

I like to think that common sense is universal, regardless of intelligent life form.
I also ponder what we would do if we were in the position of having visited and watched another inhabited planet for a while.

I personally conclude that we would do the same thing, try to make a subtle show here and there, try to understand the language and explain that we are intelligent, friendly and curious in a way that is unmistakable but simplistic.

Remember a little while ago when a new tribe was discovered in the Amazon? Imagine their fear and confusion at seeing a big metal bird flying over growling at them! The only way we could begin to make contact would be to make a display of symbols that they would be familiar with, show that we are at least as intelligent as them, that we are trying to communicate in a friendly and quiet way.

I think that this may be their way of writing "hello down there!" in the sky.

And if my ideas and hopes are correct, I think we'll start seeing and hearing simplistic communication much more often as they become more confident. Especially if we were to start answering back (how would we do that?)
And I don't believe they'll understand the difference between the seat of government and a seat on the public world stage.