Zeitgeist and Urantia

Im a on the fence person when I read most things on ATS and I have read a little bit about Urantia teachings and k now theres a lot of people who use this as their bible....the story of Jesus is interesting and does go into quite a lot of detail.....on the other side, I know theres a lot of Zeitgeist followers out there and Zeitgeist claims that Jesus is nothing more than the Sun and this story has been written over and over again throughout history....I just want to get some opinions and thoughts from people who believe in Urantia and people who follow Zeitgeist......

I personally think that Urantia is a very well thought of book and because of the way it is written, people can easily believe it.....Zeitgeist does make sense when you look towards the stars and see what happens in the solstices....so I am more inclined to believe in the Zeitgeist theory..!!!

I am of the opinion that Jesus was rather a mixture of many of the views around him. I believe that things were attributed to him that were not deserving, and that much of his message was hidden or destroyed (as evidenced by the Gospel of Thomas that suggests that Jesus said that the "church" is INside, and that it is not necessary to attend a church...something the Priesthood surely wouldn't want their flock to realize, lest they lose their power and income).

So in some ways both are right. I suspect that Mary, mother of Jesus, was given attributes she did not really possess (virginity being the prime one) - and interestingly, "Mary" is derived from a title, not a name...

I do believe that Jesus lived, but that only "acceptable" teachings were allowed to be widely spread.

So, all in all, it is likely they both have aspects correct, and the Zeitgeist view is focusing on Solar Deity attributes that were tacked on, while the Urantia view tends more to take the teachings and presume more of Jesus than one discounting Solar Deity attributes.

My humble opinion.

This YouTube Video mentions Zeitgeist, and says that Jesus being part of Zodiac was normal to the prophecy, and it doesnt mean that Jesus didnt exist, thats the persons perspective who put up this YouTube Video.

"Christians!: St. Paul the Apostle was the AntiChrist! 3/5"




Also why does Zeitgeist totally do away with Religious knowledge, enstead of teaching us the truths that are in Religions, yes we all no they aint perfect, but what about the truths that are there within?.

No, so Zeitgeist, essentially is telling people to discard sacred and ancient knowledge, and not try to understand it?.

Where's Incarnated when we need him?

I am of the opinion that when it comes to religion, any book, no matter how hallowed, is at best a guideline, and the only thing that will bring you closer to "god" is the desire to do so and the dedication to see that through.

following a book rather than the god does not further one's spiritual growth. I've known a lot of people who leave behind Biblical faith only to be just as dogmatic about something else, be it Seitgeist, Urantia, even atheism.

Jesus the man existed and he was directly descended from David through his father Joseph. Jesus could claim the title King of the Jews (after Joseph died since that would of been his claim before Jesus.) The Romans in power, along with many Jews who were also in power, did not want to rock the status quo.

I also agree that many of the ancient pagan traditions were added on to Christianity to bolster its popularity. Mary his mother became a virgin to replace the Mother Goddess Isis, and Jesus death and resurrection was invented to coincide with other resurrection stories around the times (Osiris and Mithras). If people followed Jesus' teachings of peace instead of all the dogma created around him by the church and men, then this would be a better world.

I just find it all to confusing.....how can people believe in something and dedicate their lives to it for it to be wrong.....unless none of it is right or wrong and we just have to test our faith based on our beliefs....