Ancient pyramids spotted by satellites

Originally posted by skekke
amazing that it looks like they are laid out all most the same way the pyramids in egypt are, to resemble the orions belt.... great find!!
starrd flaggd !

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I also note (correct me if i'm wrong) that this pyramid from the pic looks more like an egyptian type than the others inSA, in that it appears to have a complete apex unlike the flat topped types .

Any thoughts on this anyone?

reply to post by mybigunit


I won't use Edgar Casey as a cite but I agree 100% that this planet had advanced civilizations before the dark ages. One just needs to look at the pyramids in central America and Mexico to know that is true. They have pyramids with 20 ton blocks in them and you cant slide a credit card through the cracks, we can't do this today with all the advanced tech and machinery we have. So the only logical conclusion has to be that at some time in the past advanced civilizations existed that had technology we can't repeat today.

Ummm yes we could do that today LOL, its just that we dont have a need to. If we wanted to build freakin pyramids that you cant slide a credit card through the cracks we could do that.

Also the main reason you cant slide a cre3dit card through the cracks is because of years of settling and erosion. The cracks "fill in"

Originally posted by theindependentjournal
reply to post by mybigunit

 

I won't use Edgar Casey as a cite but I agree 100% that this planet had advanced civilizations before the dark ages. One just needs to look at the pyramids in central America and Mexico to know that is true. They have pyramids with 20 ton blocks in them and you cant slide a credit card through the cracks, we can't do this today with all the advanced tech and machinery we have. So the only logical conclusion has to be that at some time in the past advanced civilizations existed that had technology we can't repeat today.

www.yesuniverse.com...

Yet more proof that we don't know squat about the history of our planet, or ourselves. We have to remember that a lot of the history that we are taught is really just best guesses. Which makes "respectable" history a lot like conspiracy theory!

Originally posted by T0by
I just thought of a quick point to consider when debating previous civilizations on earth.

You'll ask why there are few remnants of their existence, which is fair enough. I myself find it very hard to believe that if there were advanced civilizations before us, that we're not constantly digging up lazer guns and spaceships.

But do remember that as technology improves, it also gets smaller and more efficient. Perhaps a power plant back then was the size of a pebble. Or transportation was instantaneous without need for cars.
Perhaps the machinery was so advanced that it was designed very small, almost nonexistant and degradable.

Perhaps their homes were built from pure energy, and simply ceased to exist, along with their society.

It's abit far fetched, but I feel it's a resonable point to bring up.


But if that were the case, then we have the contradiction of them feeling the need for them to build big clunky pyramids from stone. Even we don't do that.

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Thats because they're advanced technology was way more efficient and effective then ours is . Maybe they didn't need laser guns and ships and stuff maybe they had a much more effecient way to use the things around us in way that has been lost over time just like everything else from they're civilization. just a thought

Just because we had civilizations that could make pyramids people call them advanced civilizations...
Must be all those holographic televisions, neons, furniture and plasma weapons they found inside the pyramids. Oh, I forgot about the anti-gravity vehicles parked in the garages and the plastic stuff all around..
Must be wonderful to build all those giant things with the most advanced technology like rocks and sand and have to use a torch to walk inside it. lool

I've visited many of the Mayan and Aztec pyramids in Mexico an Guatemala, and I believe the pyramid described in the article was most likely the base for a temple which would have been built atop it. It's very common in Mezoamerica.

The satellite imaging is very intriguing and a great advance for archeologists though.

Originally posted by T0by
I just thought of a quick point to consider when debating previous civilizations on earth.

You'll ask why there are few remnants of their existence, which is fair enough. I myself find it very hard to believe that if there were advanced civilizations before us, that we're not constantly digging up lazer guns and spaceships.


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We are simply not digging deep enough. And when something is found, it's existence is not disclosed. The areas in the Grand Canyon where finds of ancient giants are supposed to have occurred is OFF LIMITS to everybody. NO explorers can go in and NO knowledge can come out.

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Thats because they're advanced technology was way more efficient and effective then ours is . Maybe they didn't need laser guns and ships and stuff maybe they had a much more effecient way to use the things around us in way that has been lost over time just like everything else from they're civilization. just a thought

Please... No matter how different some civilization could have been you would always find a zillion evidence of their existence. Besides, civilizations don't evolve from nothing to unreal technology in one day. There would be tons of evidence in that long path of evolution.

Originally posted by mybigunit
Let me tell you something. There was an advanced civilization before us. To me there is no doubt. I think it was Edgar Cayse who said that there was the Atlantian civilization was advanced and so advanced that they killed themselves. They had the power of the earth and cosmos and wiped themselves out. To me this is starting to seem more and more true as we see these same buildings all over the world.

According to Edgar Cayce, the human race is approximately 10.5 million years old. He also spoke of Atlantis as the last great technological society that destroyed itself with its own weapon made up of large intricately placed mirrors. Cayce also explained how a few surviving Atlanteans went on to establish a new kingdom in Ancient Egypt. Incidentally, I believe he also linked the Biblical flood to the sinking of Atlantis to the bottom of the ocean.


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My only question is why is it that when we find a pyramid looking object on Earth that is buried, and we found said object using a satellite, we immediately declare it to be a pyramid without having stepped foot on the site to take a look see, but when we encounter the same thing on Mars, again using satellite technology and not having been there, anyone who proclaims it to be a pyramid is branded as a kook?

Is it just me or does anyone else see anything wrong with this?

Originally posted by Vehemens
Please... No matter how different some civilization could have been you would always find a zillion evidence of their existence. Besides, civilizations don't evolve from nothing to unreal technology in one day. There would be tons of evidence in that long path of evolution.

Actually, I really have to disagree with this statement. Our species lived for most of our existence without technology. Only in the past 120 years have we actually begun using machines to do the work for us. If one were to look at the long time line between the advent of the wheel and the cotton ginny,(also hailed as the beginning of the industrial revolution), one would think we were a race of primitives. When you take into consideration that 99% of our advancements have been in the last century in the life span of a species that is indeed overnight.

With respect to the absence of "wires" and such, Tesla had very successful experiments with wireless transmission of energy. So in defense of the advanced civilizations that came before us, just because our picture of "advanced" leaves behind litter, doesn't mean a truly advanced civilization would be required to as well.

We also do not have the technology to cut solid stone into 20 ton blocks and move them into position with the precision that has been illustrated with many of the existing pyramids. Even our biggest bulldozers have hollow blades so the machines can lift them. Water or plasma lasers could cut the stone, but we have zero chance of moving it.

We as a people, do create our own pyramids, Mt Rushmore, The Washington Monument are two good examples, not of shape, but of significance.

Thanks for reading.

..Ex

Ps. 20 Ton was an example, some of the stones have been estimated at 2000 tons. (lift that with a forklift)

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If the satelite can do that. Can it also look under one of the paws of the sphinx to see if anything is there? Also didnt Edgar Cayce state that we will find ancient ruins with artifacts that will explain to us about the advanced civilizations. Maybe soon someone will discover the pyramid in South AMerica where all the records are kept.

I dont know why people seem to think that we cany cut 20 ton blocks of stone today.

ARE YOU DAFT?


I see 20 ton blocks of granite leaving the local quarries and going down the road to end users all the time.
Dont fool yourself into believing all of the hype about how tightly fit monolithic stone work is, the stones that went into the pyramids are far from what we would call flat in todays standards.
Not being able to slide a credit card between the blocks tells you nothing because the blocks are making contact with each other in thousands of places where the high spots hit each other.
It might be only 3% actual contact and only flat to .06" over a 6" length, compared to the modern ability to produce a block flat to within .00000004" over a 6' length.
A surface so flat and smooth that when you put two together, they will atomicly bond. The atoms are able to get so close to each other that they will share electrons, thus locking the two blocks together.

The local granite quarries will move a years worth of ancient egyptian granite in a couple of days, with only a few dozen men.
20 ton blocks can be moved by fork lift.
And if you think things that large cant be placed acurately I suggest you watch one of the very good construction reality documentaries.
Or get out into the real world a see just how much effort ordinary people put into building the the things that make your modern life possible.
Ive watched a 45 ton milling machine get moved into a factory, they were able to set it within a 1/64 of an inch with just tape measures, nothing fancy.


And whom ever it was that uttered the phrase" We couldnt build it today"
didnt mean we couldnt build it today, they meant there is no one today who could build it using acient methodology.
All of the littl tricks and shortcuts that made the job easy are lost to the past.
We could totaly build anything the ancients did, faster and better, we just have no need to build a stone pyramid, we build things like Hoover Dam and the Petronas Towers, or floating island airports or tunnels from england to france. Those would be creations of the gods to the ancient people of the earth.

reply to post by metaldemon2000


We, well not me personally, have touched pyramids on earth. We, me personally, know there are some intelligent beings on earth.

We have not touched or even seen, up close, pyramids on Mars. We do not know that there are or were and intelligent beings on Mars.

I recall seeing something about this on Nova or the like a while back. From what I can remember, the limestone from which the pyramids in the Amazon were built changed the colour of the surrounding foliage in a very small way, detectable using one of Nasa's more advanced imaging sattelites. Interesting stuff.

Originally posted by metaldemon2000
My only question is why is it that when we find a pyramid looking object on Earth that is buried, and we found said object using a satellite, we immediately declare it to be a pyramid without having stepped foot on the site to take a look see, but when we encounter the same thing on Mars, again using satellite technology and not having been there, anyone who proclaims it to be a pyramid is branded as a kook?

Is it just me or does anyone else see anything wrong with this?

Well, you see, the diference is that on Earth is the mankind, who could build it; there is not *supossed* to be anything alive on Mars ever.

It seems like alot of this stems back into the old argument of ooparts and cover-up's. I don't know if I beleive wholeheartedly in a "hidden" history of the planet, but it does seem to me that archeologists and most science-types get very irate when someone challenges and "accepted" theory or even worse, they take it as a personal insult. Alot of these so called open-minded people tend to defend the accepted histories with the same zeal that religious people defend their holy doctrine. Human nature being what it is, basically selfish and self-serving, no on wants to admit they were wrong. So, I could see someone (or even entire organizations) "deleting" certain finds. My whole point is, the one poster said something along the lines of "Why is there no evidence?" Meaning machinery and wires and whatnot. My question being, what if there were, and the public at large just hasn't seen it?

Chrono

reply to post by SUMDUMONKEY


interesting article not sure about the pyramid thing though the angles look wrong if it was free standing/buried complete then yes but if its a ruin or or just the foundations then the angles look wrong

reply to post by Vehemens


Vehemens,

I just wanted to post a link of a discovery which could change your mind about existance of advanced civilizations on this planet in the past.

I could not find any mention of this discovery hear on ATS so I am posting the link in hope MOD's will post my message to you on this thread.

english.pravda.ru...


Thank you

Darijo