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Truth of life

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posted on Jan, 15 2003 @ 08:28 PM
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I don�t understand how so few people say that they can�t see the answers to divine questions like why am I here, What is the point to life, Why is there so much pain and death in the world. Or even why they look for such answers. I see that the world is perfect and totally understandable.

Are world is full of pain lust love death birth. Do none of you see the Beauty of it. Death birth hate love lust peace. Pain is as good as pleasure and pleasure is as bad a pain. Destruction is a ugly as creation and creation is as beautiful as destruction. Do none of you see the greatness in the fact that humanity can at will destroy nature on this planet hell we can vaporize the earth do you not see the beauty and horror of this. Human are at a constant war with nature trying to survive every day and because of this war we are becoming something better then we were. The universe is expanding as we speak till it will stop till all in the universe is still. The universe is moving into a time of perfect balance we will join in that balance. But since we fought since we destroyed since we can bring to the universe an all consuming fire. We are partly responsible for this peace. Evil as we call it is not so bad since evils existence greats good. We can be beautiful chaos beautiful Destructions so that we make room for birth. So the true answer to the questions are to exist because we can exist and because pain is better then numbness. Are existence destroyed those that came before us and those that exist after us will have destroyed us but because of us they are better so we are part of there greatness. The only true good thing we can do is create change and the only way we can do that is through conflict.



posted on Jan, 15 2003 @ 09:20 PM
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I must disagree with your "destruction" comment, destruction must not be confused with what could be called "death". The death of a star is still a beautiful thing but it is not destroyed. Because from it new life will spring forth.

I don't think nature has "destruction" only man destroys, it is because only man is chaotic, capable of making their own decisions, and because of that, they are capable of destroying.

The purpose of life is to experience this universe, without life experiencing it, nothing would exist.

And I think the idea of "conflict with nature" and such, is also foolish....nature is balanced, it is perfect the way it is, man disturbes that balance, and hides from nature, and if he's not careful, he will be punished.

Sincerely,
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[Edited on 16-1-2003 by FreeMason]



posted on Jan, 15 2003 @ 09:54 PM
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First I must say that destruction (first I must say that by destruction I mean change since nothing can be totally destroyed) Is every were some forces act on others the like the sun burning. One type of force act on the other and the star collapses or explodes and is destroyed since it goes through a violent change.

Second nature is not in balance one side is strong one min the next another is. (And humans are part of nature so they are nature so there no distinction). The only time that nature will be at balance is when life does not need to use or gain energy just can exist at perfect zero (the temp were there is no atomic movement) perfect cold

And are conflict with nature. Imagine a race you are one run nature is the other this is a race you know you cant win but you still run and try to win and race it self is nature and you are part of nature so you are the race as well. Fighting to be better then all life is part of nature Evolution in its many form is every thing it is nature.

I must remind you that when I say nature I mean are universe perhaps even are Multiverse. Plastic even elements we made in superconductors are part of nature every thing is nature so human cant hide from nature they hide from other life so they can make them selves better (fighting it) which makes them part of nature.

By destroying we put down others so they can back stronger and they beat us down and make us come back stronger.



posted on Jan, 15 2003 @ 10:20 PM
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Humans are by no means apart of nature, not anymore....they've "out grown" it, they mentally have detached themselves from reality, to build their own reality...it'll haunt them.

Existance can't happen at "absolute zero" there is no motion no anything....

I don't see how you can think that existance is "fighting nature"...human's fight with nature is retarded, and has only seemed to been a by product of the Abramic religions.

There is no SOUL in buildings, and other man made objects.

We build our buildings to sway in the wind as great trees do but man can never connect with a building like he could with a Tree.

Nature is what is inside us...the spirit of the world you could say...not matter, and energy, and all of existance, that is all of creation...nature is the connection.

Sincerely,
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posted on Jan, 15 2003 @ 10:38 PM
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By nature I do not mean flower and trees. I mean the universe I mean realty. And humans are a part of this realty and fight fact as the fact that eventually humanity will die or change in such a way that there is no way to compare us to what we will become. We fight to keep are race alive and in many ways unchanged. So by fighting it we are acting in accordance to it. When a storm comes animals don�t just sit there and die they fight. When wolves are hungry they just don�t die they eat other animals that fighting. Bye fighting other part of nature (other forces in are Universe like the wind or solar radiation) we are becoming one with them.



posted on Jan, 15 2003 @ 10:43 PM
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Actually animals only struggle, they don't "fight" they never fight against nature, if a storm comes they don't try and build a device to manipulate the weather, if a fire is in their forest, they don't fight it...Animals are nomadic, and leave, or they stay where they are and die...man seems to want to stay where they are but live, which is not exactly "natural".

Sincerely,
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posted on Jan, 15 2003 @ 11:03 PM
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What about beavers ants and birds they create there own homes. Beavers flood streams causing destruction and death (some salmon can not go past the artificial dams and die) but that means that only salmon that can get past beaver dam live so this no longer becomes a problem for the specie.



posted on Jan, 15 2003 @ 11:13 PM
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Beavers never harm the ecosystem, although maybe more recently they have as they've need to move into areas that aren't really accomodating for them, because of human actions. I've never heard of salmon being trapped by a beaver damn...you may want to look that up or at least provide a reference so I can learn from that


But yes the ones that can get past live and that's "natural selection" however natural selection has never been Humanity's friend.

Sincerely,
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