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I've been looking at stills of some of the clearer parts of the vid...doesn't look hopeful as a genuine sighting.

I agree wholeheartedly that the time frames are a bit suspect as well.

The fishermen don't seem to notice anything unusual?? This is what I noticed.

Hell I would think there'd be a ton of people out wondering what was up.

If it was what they claim more people would have seen it for sure especially over a series of months?

The thing that got me was how close they appeared to be to the object. What kind of camera did they use???? Y a know?? Makes me think hoax based on that and the fact that it never really chnged over the course of...what did they say....months???

Originally posted by Chadwickus



Over the course of the video which according to the time and date spans several days this craft doesn't change direction or angle at all. Anyone think that's a bit strange?

I don't think it's strange.

I used to live very near an airport. I Could watch all the planes land and take of. They were always on the same direction and angle. So you mean the planes that I used to see were hoax too?

Originally posted by Chadwickus

gonna have to say a hoax on this one.

Of course you're going to.


Peace

Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by justgeneric

 

Over the course of the video which according to the time and date spans several days this craft doesn't change direction or angle at all. Anyone think that's a bit strange?

gonna have to say a hoax on this one.

[edit on 10-10-2008 by Chadwickus]

You're a bit eager to stick a "hoax" label on, aren't you? Why not consider some reasons why the same object would be in the same spot over several days before dismissing it?

The only thing that I would question is, why did the fisherman not so much as look at the object? There could be several answers, he had already been watching it for the past few nights so it was nothing new to him. He had no interest in the object, his only interest being earning money and supporting his family. There was nothing there. It was only viewable from the camera mans location.
The last possibility could suggest that this is a mirage of some kind, though I have never known such a clear mirage.

Nothing immediately jumps out as "fake" to me here, except the obvious and ridiculous "too good to be true" problems. It certainly doesn't look like CGI to these eyes but the brain behind these eyes has very little understanding of CGI anyway.

Originally posted by TH3ON3


That is just freaking amazing footage. If story checks out as stated it is definitely one of the best I have seen. hey maybe if our government admits that UFOs are real, the people might start trusting them more and the stock market would rise.

Our government?

I'm pretty sure you have a different government to myself and thousands of other ATS members.

Okay, I watched the rest of it. Phage is right. It's very likely to be an offshore oil platform. It doesn't change at all throughout the video.
Also, the comments are very weird. Like, "$#@# don't do this to me", "don't move, don't move!" while it doesn't do anything.
I do not know how their voice sound like so can't help you out on that.
This is probably a case of misidentification.

I'd have to say it most likely is a commercial fishing boat. Those things are lit up big time!

Am I missing something? Why am I not amazed here?
This like so many other videos with UFO have no frame of referance to the ground, trees, or anything else.

I wont jump in and say I think its a hoax or a fake.. Im just not really to impressed with the video itself.
While the whole time I do belive in life outside earth, or this solar system in general.
I just think we should all wait and see if these beings decide to show themselfs to the world.
I think thats going to be the only way to get to the next stage of this discussion. As once we all know 100% they are out there, its going to open alot of doors for other types of talk.
Once we all know 100% they are there.. Then we are going to be at ends with eachother to say who and what they are.
No one is ever going to agree 100% on this.. Even if we do all know they are there, and have shown themselfs.
Theres going to be no end to the maddness we face here on this earth.

I wish it was comman knowledge that everyone had the know that there is life else where. But its simply not comman knowledge.
There are still far to many pit falls that any agurement can befall right now.
I hope in my lifetime we will get a really good show!

I know in many of my dreams I see UFO's in the sky! And tons of them, and they never do give me a safe kind of feeling.

Many people say if they wanted to destory us they would have done so long ago.
I disagree with that statement.
As I have been putting some research into whats known as the Van Allen belt.
IMO the Van Allen belt has been in place to protect this world from visitors.
And only key aliens know how to pass threw this belt.
Or have the type of ships that can pass threw the Van Allen belt.

In my research Ive found that the Van Allen belt just in the last 5 years has been getting messed with.
Thus that would in essence open the Doors up to earth.

However I do not know for sure.. Im just throwing out some thoughts.
So no need to rebuttle my claims as I dont have a clue whats going on here.
I just know the video itself didnt impress me.. Or change my already set views.
We as humans are dead set in our ways.. And would take a real earth shaking event to bring us out of our already "set" ways.

if the images are real and there is a flying object. I am still not convinced that it would be alien. turkey and Iran are in the same area and it might be a militair united states craft preparing for an attack on the installations of Iran.
Well it might be alien to us because its not a known craft but alien doesn't say it is extraterrestial

Holy hoax batman!!!!!

This screams BS!!!

Just look how long the intro is!

I say a combination of CGI and models....

on the site it says: What’s more important is that in the close-up of some footages of the objects, entities in them can be distinctly made out.

Can some1 tell me on which time of the movie these entities can be made out ?

Originally posted by triplesod
Our government?
I'm pretty sure you have a different government to myself and thousands of other ATS members.

yup!

a lot of that round here.

Originally posted by jasperaldo Can some1 tell me on which time of the movie these entities can be made out ?

The 'entities' are circled towards the very end of the clip. no offence to the OP, cuz we all wanna see something earth-shattering (so to speak) but once these entities turned up, I could only think of "Mars Attacks!"

Intriguing to say the least, fake? Can't say at this time. I do agree that the only movement I see is that one of the camera man moving around and losing the object in question.

CGI? Possibly however, I am no expert in this matter so before jumping into conclusions I will let experts here on ATS view this and post their thoughts.

Good video nonetheless!

[edit on 10-10-2008 by TheEnlightenedOne]

Originally posted by ziggystar60

His motives however may not just be scientific, he is also the owner of the İstanbul UFO museum that opened in 2002 (riding on the back of these multiple UFO events) and any extra interest in aliens will also encourage punters through the door of his museum.

Scroll down a bit to find the quoted paragraph at this site:
www.toplumpostasi.net...

I'm quoting this because it appears that some did not notice it the first time. He owns a UFO museum, peeps.

Objects facing same direction over clips recorded alledgedly over 'months'...weird but not impossible....

The shiney gold version appears to have reflections consistant with 'indoors'..

The only thing moving seems to be the camera itself...

No point of reference...suspicious but not onlits own a reason to scream fake...

However combine just the above reason and it makes me very suspicious indeed and think its a hoax. The 'design' of the craft remind me of something I've seen before but I can't place it.......I'd say it has the hallmarks of a hoax.

Wayne...

theres no ignoring the fact that there has been a lot of unexplained arieal phenomenon going on in that region of the world.

assuming it is real, then i guess the ET's have decided that this very location in the sky is the best possible vantage point based on all accounts.

assuming it is fake, yes it could be model vs CGI play. but im not jumping on that bandwagon just yet.

with that point made, i felt it was rediculious that each observation made was oh my god, blah blah blah as others have stated. although, i took into account that weeks go by before they see it again, so in essense they could just be speaking out of pure bewilderment over and over.

ziggy points out a great fact with the "business model" post.

assuming it is real, why the heck would some guys go out in the middle of the night to film the backdrop at such a rediculous hour.

as for the oil refinery, my assumption is that those guys would be familiar with the terrain to know that there is in FACT an oil refinery there. or they could have waited 45 more minutes after sun up to go, duh theres an oil refinery. just dont buy this debunk, but very keen in deed.

If i saw something like that i would definatley do a zoom out to see how far away it is, not just keep it zoomed in for ages, knowing what people are like for wanting more.

There should be a guideline for when seeing a UFO and recording it.

zoom in and out for distance definatley, i for one would knock on my neighbours doors and get a second opinion, try and get a second camera going if possible, i would try and let as many people know right there and then.

I see many important points here: in my humble opinion, a very important step would be to get some informations straight from some Turkish sources: fortunately, we have two members who applied to The UFO-Alien Applied Linguistics Registry :


Turkish:
commodore64 Send U2U
trusername Send U2U

i'm going to bring this thread to their attention, hopefully they will be able to find out something not available in english.

yeah. sure. why not. not.....
this is fake.
their voices are not excited. over many nights. very up close. etc...
just everything points to this not being real. and if after watching this you think it is real, i have a couple of bridges you can have for a fair price. one is in pieces, but it worked before that.
but hey, i should send them a big "thanks" for entertaining me on a Friday afternoon.